Israel at war

Frankfooter

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Where they aren't is on the side of Hamas.

GeNostradamus, there goes another one of your predictions being flushed down the toilet. Are you tired of being wrong yet?
I admit that every time I think, 'zionists can't be that fucking evil and that stupid', the continue to surprise me.

Are you tired of watching the entire world hate you yet?
its going to be lasting a very long time now.

Did Israel kill these two yet?

This is what the students are fighting for, BDS.
The world will boycott zionism, zionism means genocide.



Someone needs to stand up to the apartheid, genocide, rape and torture you support.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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That was exactly what my comment was about. I am not saying there isnt overwhelming support for Israel in the west. After all if there wasn't this genocide would have already ended. I am saying the overwhelming support is due to default racist narratives and attitudes towards Muslims, Islam and the 3rd world
Latest Harvard poll says 80% of Americans support Israel.
So by your reasoning 80% of Americans are racist then??

Poll: https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/

Before you answer that, keep in mind that amongst that 80% there are probably many Latinos, African-americans, Asians....etc who support Israel as well
 

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Palestinians are not antisemites. They are antizionists. Antizionism is not antisemitism.

Antisemitism and Islamophobia OTOH are racist.
What race is Islam? Isn't it a religion and therefore a voluntary belief system? You can choose not to be a Muslim right?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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By my reasoning the narratives and attitudes in the west, towards the 3rd world, towards Muslims, towards Palestinians is one of default racism. I am not aware of differences based on race on this subject and have not seen any studies. Your study here does not indicate anything specific to demographics either, so there is not enough information to make a statement on it
Approximately 75% of America is white.
That means a minimum of 5% who were polled had to be visible minorities (probably a lot more though).

Have you ever thought that maybe 80% of Americans simply believe Israel has the right to defend their homeland from a terrorist organization like Hamas??
And that it has nothing to do with racism??
 

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And even if what you say is true with the 5%, so a minority of visible minorities hold default racist views towards the 3rd world and towards Muslims in general, which is understandable. There are after all black and latino Trump voters for example who hold and subscribe to racist views about immigrants.

These default racist narratives are not directed at Hamas. They are directed at Palestinians.
You seem to be chanting "racism" the loudest in here...and we all know you're woke AF...that said...hows your take on people who hate gays and toss them on top of buildings?
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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These default racist narratives are not directed at Hamas. They are directed at Palestinians
Thats your opinion. Unless you polled every single person of 80% of America you would have no way of knowing that for sure.
So until you do, your opinion means very little, if anything at all
 

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The western world conflates Hamas with Palestinians, when they talk about this conflict. Hence it is Islamophobia and default racism.
Actually, the vast majority of the western world completely understand the difference between Hamas, who are a terrorist organization and the Palestinian people. It's like saying that blacks conflate the KKK with all white people. It's a fallacious statement with no basis in reality And is used by some Muslims to justify their hate of the Western world and their culture.

This is about a genocide of an ethnic group, so talking about "my side won" is schoolyard-ish immaturity. The fact of the matter is that politicians in the US are bought and paid for by Israel and they dance to the tune of their puppet masters, which is pathetic. Where is their sense of national pride and autonomy? They have none.
What is pathetic is the attempt to perpetuate this racist myth of Israel CONTROLLING the US for a few bucks. That is a trope used by anti-Semites in the same vein as Jews controlling the global banking system, Hollywood, eating babies, being cheap, having hooked noses and having death lasers.

It's patently obvious that the US supports Israel as opposed to being controlled by Israel, because Israel is the greatest ally the US has in the region and is integral to protecting US interests. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think that even you admitted this. You may have added in some mumbo jumbo about Israel having an unfair advantage or whatever, but the truth is that nobody can name another country in the region that is democratic, shares many of the same values as the US and can provide to the US what Israel does to the US. The money spent by lobbyists is a pittance compared to the value that the US assigns to Israeli support in the ME.

Anti-Zionism is a Jewish invention and therefore, calling it anti-semitic, is anti-semitic. Anti-zionism is the default Jewish position. Zionism is a movement that aims to create an ethnostate and therefore by its very nature is racist.
Just as apartheid was a S. African invention, its' definition was misappropriated by other non-S. African entities the same way and for the same reasons that the term Zionism is now being misappropriated.

The Jews invented the term Zionism to represent their desire for a Jewish homeland where they could live safely. Saying that the Jews invented Anti-Zionism and is the default Jewish postion is ludicrous. Jews are automatically anti-Zionists? You're saying that Jews wanting a homeland invented a hatred for Jews wanting a homeland. Listen to yourself. What you say is preposterous. Geno thinks that all Jews in Israel are Zionists and now you're saying that the Jews in Israel are almost always anti-Zionists. "Hey Joe. Get more flour because we're running out of pretzels really fast and need to make more."

Anti-Zionism is a creation of Jew haters and anti-Semites and calling them out for being racist is not racist.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I did not call anyone racist here
You have called plenty of people here racist. You said anyone who supports Israel is racist.

You dont even know what you're saying anymore
 
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