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mandrill

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The fact that the protestors have occupied university lands for over a week, were finally told to disburse, that they harassed and blocked access to anyone who didn't share their extremist views and that they broke into university buildings and pillaged them to create fortifications had nothing to do with the administration calling in the cops to clear them out.

It was all - clearly, totally and blatantly - just anti Arab racism. Yup. Gotcha.

If Jews did that shit, you'd be whining that the cops should clear out the "zionists" on minute 5 of Day 1.
 

mandrill

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And, if you recall, the Civil Rights protests were disliked by the American people.
The story of "The Civil Rights protests were great and everyone realized they had to change" is complete bullshit.
They were contentious and even within the movement had lots of people trying different things and having different end goals.

Just think about how people remember Rosa Parks today and compare that to her actual life and activism.
Got a point there.

I'm sure in 5 years time, the fact that a few thousand overly entitled little pissers harassed Jewish students on campus in support of a proscribed terrorist organization that raped and murdered dozens of innocent concert-goers and then kidnapped many others will take its place in the Pantheon of American Honour alongside MLK's "I have a dream" and Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

Maybe that video footage of the spoiled, chubby-face little cunt demanding politically correct vegan food be brought in to them Columbia admin while they wrecked campus buildings will be the moment that gets immortalized in the popular imagination.
 
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If Jews did that shit, you'd be whining that the cops should clear out the "zionists" on minute 5 of Day 1.
No, just for a half century occupation, land theft and genocide.

But, go ahead. Whine about a week long university student encampment
 
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mandrill

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No, just for a half century occupation, land theft and genocide.

But, go ahead. Whine about a week long university student encampment
How is it "land theft"?

The Jews legally immigrated to Palestine and purchased the land. Just like a million immigrants in Toronto.

The difference is that the existing population didn't try to genocide the newcomers, the way the Arabs tried repeatedly to genocide the Jews.
 

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Really, its a total waste.
Biden did some good policy work and should have had an easy reelection.
He should be supportable.
He was never going to have an easy re-election, sadly.
The US has a lot of pro-authoritarian tendencies and there are major institutional forces that want Trump back.

The moment Biden pulled out of Afghanistan he started losing support.

As always in the US and elsewhere, though, many people don't believe in voting based on policy.
 

Valcazar

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Got a point there.

I'm sure in 5 years time, the fact that a few thousand overly entitled little pissers harassed Jewish students on campus in support of a proscribed terrorist organization that raped and murdered dozens of innocent concert-goers and then kidnapped many others will take its place in the Pantheon of American Honour alongside MLK's "I have a dream" and Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

Maybe that video footage of the spoiled, chubby-face little cunt demanding politically correct vegan food be brought in to them Columbia admin while they wrecked campus buildings will be the moment that gets immortalized in the popular imagination.
Not at all.
If the movement is looked at later as having been "successful" it will simply vanish in the memory hole when the US tells itself it did the right thing.
If the movement is looked at later as having been "unsuccessful" it won't be celebrated.
 
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Frankfooter

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And, if you recall, the Civil Rights protests were disliked by the American people.
The story of "The Civil Rights protests were great and everyone realized they had to change" is complete bullshit.
They were contentious and even within the movement had lots of people trying different things and having different end goals.

Just think about how people remember Rosa Parks today and compare that to her actual life and activism.
In retrospect the students have always been right.
 
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mandrill

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Not at all.
If the movement is looked at later as having been "successful" it will simply vanish in the memory hole when the US tells itself it did the right thing.
If the movement is looked at later as having been "unsuccessful" it won't be celebrated.
Just like America forgot MLK and Lincoln?...

What are you trying to say here?
 
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