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Language in the War on Gaza | Israel resorts to outright lies and dangerous deceptions.

shack

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Just because you said it doesn't make it so.
Agreed. I carry no authority.

What makes it so is reality.

For example, are you claiming that Hamas has not stolen humanitarian aid intended for the citizens of Gaza?
 

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Agreed. I carry no authority.

What makes it so is reality.

For example, are you claiming that Hamas has not stolen humanitarian aid intended for the citizens of Gaza?
Not at all, Hamas is the baby devil and IDF is the mother devil...that is my point.
 
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shack

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Israel are the military occupying power.
Moot.
They cannot declare war against the people they occupy, you can only declare war against other countries.
But you keep telling us Palestine isn't a country.
Where is this stated as "international law"? You just made this up.

An enemy of a country does not necessarily have to be another country. A group or even an individual can be an enemy of a state.

US did not declare war on Afghanistan. They declared war on al Qaeda.
 

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Moot.

Where is this stated as "international law"? You just made this up.

An enemy of a country does not necessarily have to be another country. A group or even an individual can be an enemy of a state.

US did not declare war on Afghanistan. They declared war on al Qaeda.
The UN Rapporteur, Albanese, stated this early in the genocide.
You cannot declare war on a people you are occupying.
The Geneva Convention states that Israel is legally responsible for their wellbeing.

You can't declare war on 'enemies of the people', that's just nonsense.
 

shack

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The UN Rapporteur, Albanese, stated this early in the genocide.
You cannot declare war on a people you are occupying.
The Geneva Convention states that Israel is legally responsible for their wellbeing.

You can't declare war on 'enemies of the people', that's just nonsense.
Show us the UN declaration/resolution/regulation to this effect. Not an individual's statement.

You're making up this shit, Geno.
 

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Show us the UN declaration/resolution/regulation to this effect. Not an individual's statement.

You're making up this shit, Geno.
Here's the UN Rapporteur's statement, smack.
Forevermore when you claim Israel has a right to self defence you will be lying, as you know better now.
Israel does not have the right to self defence against Palestinians.
 
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Israel is supposed to be in negotiations with Haniyeh.
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If his sons were operatives active in Hamas's combat arm then they are valid military targets. Considering you keep claiming that Jews being in the West Bank makes them valid targets, you must accept that military commanders are fair game.

And Hamas has repeatedly rejected ceasefires and is demanding more Palestinians released from life sentences while saying they will release fewer hostages. Doesn't sound like Haniyeh is interested in the negotiations, especially as he's sitting safe in Qatar.
 

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Very true. Basically if the Israeli govt or the IDF came up with any "evidence" you can be rest assured that it will be fact checked and debunked shortly....
While you happily swallow whatever load Hamas sends your way.
 

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Hamas says they won't return them until there is a permanent ceasefire.
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So much for your support of the UNSC.

Hamas is clear they don't want a permanent ceasefire aka peace and they have made clear in negotiations that they don't want a ceasefire with Israel. They are simply sacrificing their people for a pathetic bit of PR.
 

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Here's the UN Rapporteur's statement, smack.
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Ah, quoting the anti-semite who said "The Jewish Lobby has subjugated America" while ignoring the UNSC demand that Hamas agree to a ceasefire and immediately and unconditionally release their hostages.

Her belief that Jews aren't allowed to defend themselves is pure racist nonsense.
 

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While you happily swallow whatever load Hamas sends your way.
Hamas isn't coming up with anything. Frontline well renowned news agencies such as Al-Jazeera are.
 
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If his sons were operatives active in Hamas's combat arm then they are valid military targets. Considering you keep claiming that Jews being in the West Bank makes them valid targets, you must accept that military commanders are fair game.

And Hamas has repeatedly rejected ceasefires and is demanding more Palestinians released from life sentences while saying they will release fewer hostages. Doesn't sound like Haniyeh is interested in the negotiations, especially as he's sitting safe in Qatar.
'If'.

You don't kill people then check later, nor do you kill their kids and grandkids as punishment for anything the parent/grandparent does.
 

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Ah, quoting the anti-semite who said "The Jewish Lobby has subjugated America" while ignoring the UNSC demand that Hamas agree to a ceasefire and immediately and unconditionally release their hostages.

Her belief that Jews aren't allowed to defend themselves is pure racist nonsense.
You support genocide and apartheid, you have no right to accuse anyone else of racism.
Trying to accuse the UN of racism because they correctly label the crap you support as genocide is just pathetic.
 
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shack

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Here's the UN Rapporteur's statement, smack.
Forevermore when you claim Israel has a right to self defence you will be lying, as you know better now.
Israel does not have the right to self defence against Palestinians.
shack said:
Show us the UN declaration/resolution/regulation to this effect. Not an individual's statement.
You're making up this shit, Geno.


I requested official UN policy, saying what an occupying territory may or may not do to defend itself. You have nothing more than an individual's opinion. That does not make it international law.

Until you can show what the UN's documented policy is, you are making up your claims.

You say the rapporteur's statement is official policy and must be obeyed, but you ignore Hamas' refusal to abide by the statement of the chief prosecutor of the ICC that Hamas must immediately and unconditionally return all the hostages. That was over a month ago.

Cherry picking is a debate crime and you are guilty.
 

shack

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You support genocide and apartheid, you have no right to accuse anyone else of racism.
Trying to accuse the UN of racism because they correctly label the crap you support as genocide is just pathetic.
Geno, where has the UN, as a body, passed any resolution declaring that Israel has committed genocide. You continue to just make things up and fabricate your own reality to suit your narrative. It is not the truth.
 
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