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bver_hunter

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I have had IPTV for 2 years and had no problems. I have a Mag 424 box and a subscription from a store in Brampton. I have never had freezing or any of the above problems described in this thread. It has been very stable and I am satisfied. I have about 10K channels (seriously) and my subscription costs $8/month.
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I honestly don't know. The staff at Golumbia ask what you are interested in and then they set up the box for you. For myself, I have all sport channels, Canada, USA and UK channels as well as many movie channels. I could have had Australian channels, Spanish channels, Indian channels, etc but I declined those.
 
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I honestly don't know. The staff at Golumbia ask what you are interested in and then they set up the box for you. For myself, I have all sport channels, Canada, USA and UK channels as well as many movie channels. I could have had Australian channels, Spanish channels, Indian channels, etc but I declined those.
I get all those channels. But it is easy to hide the categories that you are not interested in. So I keep the Sports, Soccer, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, and believe it or not Indian Channels.
The Indian Channels have Star Sports and Sony Sports TV that cover Sports like Soccer, Formula 1, Golf Basketball, Hockey, Football, Wrestling, and several other Sports. These Channels have perfect picture quality, with practically no freezing. But if you scroll to your Settings and then Server, then that would give you the hint of your provider along with the expiry date of your subscription.
Yes, I also have the Pay Per View, Movie and Concert Channels along with the VOD Films, including over 30,000+ Adult Films, Series as well as Live Channels. Just not enough time to view them. 🤪
 

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I upgraded my android boxes to Android 11 OS a few months ago. I haven't had any buffering since.
 

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Which brand android box do you have??
 
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bver_hunter

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I have the same BuzzTV Processor and a great signal and performance. Important to subscribe to a good and reliable IPTV provider, and hardwire the box directly to the Internet Modem.
Then zero buffering is the outcome even with all the various sports events from overseas channels.
 

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I have the same BuzzTV Processor and a great signal and performance. Important to subscribe to a good and reliable IPTV provider, and hardwire the box directly to the Internet Modem.
Then zero buffering is the outcome even with all the various sports events from overseas channels.
I'm not hardwired and have had zero issues (using Rogers Ignite).
 

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I'm not hardwired and have had zero issues (using Rogers Ignite).
I have Bell Fibe. Now the Basement IPTV does have severe issues with using the WIFI when the Bell Modem was on the ground floor. The reason is the FIBE signal uses light signals that gets easily interrupted by several factors. Noticed that the signal speed dropped ten fold. Had to use a Router to improve the signal. My other BuzzTV Box on the main floor has an impeccable signal quality and the hardwired connection is 100% perfect with zero buffering. Also, I found the cheaper IPTV providers to be practically garbage as compared to my current one. I'm paying $150 per year and all types of Sports Channels are included.
 
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bver_hunter

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Is it possible to use IPTV with my AppleTV device?
As long as your Apple TV device has at least a 4GB RAM, 64GB of storage and the equivalent of a Quad Core Processor, there should be no issues with using it for IPTV.
Your provider will have to upload the IPTV provider's App for you, unless you subscribe to an internet provider. Something I do not recommend.
 

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As long as your Apple TV device has at least a 4GB RAM, 64GB of storage and the equivalent of a Quad Core Processor, there should be no issues with using it for IPTV.
Your provider will have to upload the IPTV provider's App for you, unless you subscribe to an internet provider. Something I do not recommend.
What do you mean “subscribe through an internet provider”?
 

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I have Bell Fibe. Now the Basement IPTV does have severe issues with using the WIFI when the Bell Modem was on the ground floor. The reason is the FIBE signal uses light signals that gets easily interrupted by several factors. Noticed that the signal speed dropped ten fold. Had to use a Router to improve the signal. My other BuzzTV Box on the main floor has an impeccable signal quality and the hardwired connection is 100% perfect with zero buffering. Also, I found the cheaper IPTV providers to be practically garbage as compared to my current one. I'm paying $150 per year and all types of Sports Channels are included.
I think you're confused about some of how this works.

It sounds like you're saying the wifi is also light signals. Fibre optic cables do transmit light signals, but that only goes up to the Bell modem at best (and possibly not even that far). Everything after that is either copper wire in the case of Ethernet, or radio frequency in the case of WiFi. Installing a router will not effect light signals in any way as your router would be using standard copper wire.

It sound like you had wifi issues in part of your home the was located far from the Bell modem/router, so you ran a copper Ethernet cable and set up a modem in a different area to improve the signal. But all of that is conventional, not light signals.

One of the big advantages of fiber optic light signals is that they are unaffected by all the things that cause interference for traditional electromagnetic signals in copper wire and wireless radio frequency signals. EMI and RF interference is everywhere and is the cause of many problems with electronics, but fibre optic is completely immune to it. So you should not experience any issues at all with the "light signal being interrupted by several factors". Fibre optic can only get interference from itself, and it should be non-existent within this context.
 

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I think you're confused about some of how this works.

It sounds like you're saying the wifi is also light signals. Fibre optic cables do transmit light signals, but that only goes up to the Bell modem at best (and possibly not even that far). Everything after that is either copper wire in the case of Ethernet, or radio frequency in the case of WiFi. Installing a router will not effect light signals in any way as your router would be using standard copper wire.

It sound like you had wifi issues in part of your home the was located far from the Bell modem/router, so you ran a copper Ethernet cable and set up a modem in a different area to improve the signal. But all of that is conventional, not light signals.

One of the big advantages of fiber optic light signals is that they are unaffected by all the things that cause interference for traditional electromagnetic signals in copper wire and wireless radio frequency signals. EMI and RF interference is everywhere and is the cause of many problems with electronics, but fibre optic is completely immune to it. So you should not experience any issues at all with the "light signal being interrupted by several factors". Fibre optic can only get interference from itself, and it should be non-existent within this context.
Well, no I'm not confused. Previously, I had Rogers and there was a very slight difference between the download speeds in the ground floor and the basement. Even the Bell Technician mentioned that a Router would be the best solution and it really helped. Yes, for the FiBe it is a Light and not an Electric signal like Rogers. Once it reaches the Modem it does convert it into the Wifi signals. However, if you compare the wifi from the FiBe with Rogers, you will notice that only The Bell Fibe has equal Upload and Download speeds as it is a different type of WiFi signal. However, appliances like the fridge and the general infrastructure has a greater impact on the Bell rather than Rogers wifi signals. My neighbours also had these issues and almost gave up on Bell's FIbe until I got them to setup the Routers. That is why, if you have an IPTV Box, I would always suggest if possible to connect it directly to the Bell Modem by an Ethernet cable.
 

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I have been using the BitDefender VPN. Works fine on the IPTV box that I'm using. At one time some channels were being blocked without the VPN, and that's why I started using the VPN.

But a quick question to those who have the App installed on their Smart Phones. Has your Confidential Data etc stayed secure and not been compromised in anyway, in spite of using some of these third party Apps?
There's no way to know if your data is secure until you're either notified of a breach, search one of the beach lists for your data and find it, or end up the victim of fraud using your personal data. Even the absence of those doesn't prove you're safe.

There used to be 3-4 good VPN services at any time with a canary notification system in case of warrants that had been tested in court and proven to not keep logs, but none currently exist (they've all been bought out by companies that are not trustworthy). None currently have a canary notification, and many claim to keep no logs but only a few haven't been shown to be liars in court yet. The ones that haven't been simply haven't been tested in court so we don't know.

AFAIK, the best one right now if you really want to be as anymore as possible is Mullvad, provided you pay anonymously with Bitcoin. They don't have a warrant canary, but claim there's no need for one as they have no data. There's no email address or billing information back to you, there isn't even a username: you just get assigned a password and the username for everybody is "m". Of course they've never been tested in court, so whether they have your IP or browser fingerprint from when you ordered it, we don't really know but they claim not to. They also claim not to track or log your logins, but without court cases it's not proven. They've also got a fully encrypted browser with all tracking disabled (if you trust/believe them) and encrypted DNS. But it's the same problem: you have to trust them to both have everything configured right and have no leaks, and trust them not to be tracking. Even then, there's still browser fingerprinting and if the authorities suspect you and can get a warrant for your device, they can get your browser fingerprint off of it and use it to tie you to your online activity.

It's worth pointing out that we know Mullvad was raided in 2023 and we have no evidence of any trial related to data having recovered. None that has been made public at least. Mullvad claims nothing was taken and no data retrieved. But that's really the same as being taken to court, ordered to turn data over, turning over all their systems and the government cases collapsing because there's nothing. So you're still stuck just trusting them.

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/update-the-swedish-authorities-answered-our-protocol-request

If your concern is the technology and not the policies, there are multiple tests you can run to check if your configuration has leaks. The most common problem is a DNS leak, and there are ways to investigate that. But you're largely relying on the provider's configuration and in many cases there's no way to know how good they are.

Then there's the bigger problem: browser fingerprinting. If you log into anything tied to your identity, your browser knows who you are and might share that identity with other sites. Even if it doesn't, your browsing history can be tracked using your browser's fingerprint. A VPN is likely doing very little to actually keep you anonymous. If the authorities really want to find out who you are, a VPN alone isn't going to protect you.

If you use different browsers when connected to the VPN vs when you're not and never login to anything with the browser you use on the VPN, there's a chance you might be able to stay anonymous. But if you make one mistake and use the wrong browser at the wrong time or login with the one you're not supposed to, you're likely compromised.

On the modern Internet it's impossible to stay anonymous. You can stay as secure as possible and ensure one breach doesn't lead to a cascade by never using a password in more than one place, never using the same username in more than one place, using disposable emails to limit who has your real address, never use Wi-Fi and definitely not public WiFi, never connect to a site using HTTP instead of HTTPS, etc. So security is relatively achievable if you're paranoid and disciplined, but anonymity is an illusion that a committed hacker or law enforcement can dispel if they really want to.
 
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Well, no I'm not confused. Previously, I had Rogers and there was a very slight difference between the download speeds in the ground floor and the basement. Even the Bell Technician mentioned that a Router would be the best solution and it really helped. Yes, for the FiBe it is a Light and not an Electric signal like Rogers. Once it reaches the Modem it does convert it into the Wifi signals. However, if you compare the wifi from the FiBe with Rogers, you will notice that only The Bell Fibe has equal Upload and Download speeds as it is a different type of WiFi signal. However, appliances like the fridge and the general infrastructure has a greater impact on the Bell rather than Rogers wifi signals. My neighbours also had these issues and almost gave up on Bell's FIbe until I got them to setup the Routers. That is why, if you have an IPTV Box, I would always suggest if possible to connect it directly to the Bell Modem by an Ethernet cable.
But those would be affecting wifi, not the light signals which are only used up to the Bell modem/router.

I also don't know what you mean by "different type". Bell uses 802.11ax with the 6GHz capability on all their modems/routers, and I'm pretty sure Rogers is using the same on most though there may be a few legacy 802.11ac units out there. But ac and ax are both the same "type", as in all use radio transmissions not light signals.

If your neighbours issues were with Wi-Fi, then it has nothing to do with the fiber optic light signals. In fact, any problem that is solved by adding another router (I say another because the Bell modem has a router built in) has nothing to do with the light signals. Certainly things like fridge have zero impact on light. That's electromagnetic interference and only effects other things that operate on the electromagnetic spectrum. Neon lights are actually one of the worst culprits, unless you happen to live beside a police or air traffic control high powered radio transmitter.

 
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