Ozempic, the $1,000 diabetes drug, can be made for less than $5 a month: study

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Works good for weight loss, but you have to stay on it for life, otherwise you'll gain your weight back. Plus we don't know long term side effects. Bunch of thieves, they should be allowed to make their research money back and a gain. But its too much.

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion


Ozempic could be profitably produced for less than $5 a month even as maker Novo Nordisk A/S charges almost $1,000 in the US, according to a study that revives questions about prices for top-selling treatments for diabetes and obesity.

The blockbuster drug could be manufactured for 89 cents to $4.73 for a month’s supply, figures that include a profit margin, researchers at Yale University, King’s College Hospital in London and the nonprofit Doctors Without Borders reported in the journal JAMA Network Open. That compares to the monthly US list price of $968.52 for Ozempic, a weekly injection.

Novo declined to provide production costs for Ozempic and Wegovy, its related drug for obesity. The company said it’s making significant investments to ensure that the public has access to its widely popular drugs. It’s making about $6 billion in capital expenditures and spending $11 billion to acquire production facilities from Catalent Inc. as part of those efforts, according to an emailed response to questions.

“This outrageously high price has the potential to bankrupt Medicare, the American people and our entire health care system,” Senator Bernie Sanders, who has held hearings about high US drug prices, said in a statement after the findings came out. The Vermont independent called on Novo Nordisk to lower the list price of Ozempic to $155 a month or less, in line with what it charges in other countries.

The study extends research showing how steep US markups are for GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy and underlines longstanding criticism of prices for diabetes therapies, especially insulin. On a per-month basis, Ozempic generally can be produced for less than various forms of insulin, a lifesaving diabetes drug that’s been available for decades, the study found.

“The profit margin is immense,” on drugs like Ozempic, said Melissa Barber, a public health economist at Yale and the study’s corresponding author. “There should be a conversation in policy about what is a fair price.”

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion. Patents linked to the drugs are likely to expire in June 2033, according to estimates from Bloomberg Law. Novo shares fell 0.8% in Copenhagen, and have gained 26% this year.

Transparency Goal

Drug production costs are often shrouded in secrecy with little clarity on how they relate to prices, if at all. Barber and her colleagues used updated estimates for raw ingredient costs and focused on the costs of producing diabetes drugs, including GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic, along with other diabetes pills and insulins.
“The goal of this research is to have receipts, to be as transparent as possible,” Barber said.

Novo and other drugmakers slashed US prices for some forms of insulin by as much as 75% last year under pressure from the Biden administration. By some estimates, however, the reductions made those products more profitable because they eliminated rebates paid to pharmacy benefit managers, the middlemen who negotiate prices for payers and employers.

Novo said in an email that 75% of its gross earnings goes to rebates and discounts to ensure patients have access to products like semaglutide, the active ingredient in Wegovy and Ozempic. Drugmakers often cite the high costs of research that may last years as a reason for their prices. Spending on drug research and development was almost $5 billion last year and will rise this year, Novo said.

This outrageously high price has the potential to bankrupt Medicare
Still, debate over the cost of drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy is ramping up. State health plans and Medicaid offices are seeing growing bills for Ozempic and its sister drug Wegovy, raising questions about whether the increases in cost are sustainable. In January, North Carolina cut off coverage of anti-obesity medicines for state employees, citing soaring costs and lack of agreement on pricing from drugmakers.

Surprisingly, the study found that the biggest cost in producing Ozempic is not the active medicine, called semaglutide, but the disposable pens used to inject it. They can be made for no more than $2.83 per month’s supply, the authors concluded, based on interviews with former employees and consultants to injection device manufacturers. One Ozempic pen is used weekly and lasts a month.

Other Costs
By contrast, the active drug in Ozempic can be produced for about 29 cents for a month’s supply, or 7.2 cents for a typical weekly dose, the research found. It’s not cheap to make — semaglutide costs over $70,000 per kilogram. But only a tiny quantity of the drug is used in each weekly dose.

Other costs include those of filling each pen, estimated at 20 cents per monthly dose, and other chemical ingredients, which the study estimates at 15 cents per monthly dose.
The analysis doesn’t include estimates for the cost of making Wegovy. Separate research from the University of Liverpool and elsewhere found last year that Wegovy could be produced for a mere $40 a month.

 

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Or you could just run your fat ass around the block a couple of times.
 

eddie kerr

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Might explain why my novo nordisk shares have been flatlining.
My daughter in law works for Novo Nordisk and their shares have skyrocketed in the last 3 years. Also, Ozempic is covered by Ohip if you have type 2 diabetes and a referral from your doctor.
 
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My daughter in law works for Novo Nordisk and their shares have skyrocketed in the last 3 years. Also, Ozempic is covered by Ohip if you have type 2 diabetes and a referral from your doctor.
Does she have an opinion on why they have stalled since I bought them? I was hoping for the jackpot after the Opra infomercial. Now not looking so certain.
 

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Does she have an opinion on why they have stalled since I bought them? I was hoping for the jackpot after the Opra infomercial. Now not looking so certain.
I think just more competition. Other companies such as Pfizer has a new product,I think, Mounjaro which contains a different drug, not semaglutide.
 

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Didn't read the OP but...
Drugs cost money to make, but they cost a lot of develop and test and most of those never go anywhere so when you get a blockbuster you got to milk it till it goes out of patent.
 

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Works good for weight loss, but you have to stay on it for life, otherwise you'll gain your weight back. Plus we don't know long term side effects. Bunch of thieves, they should be allowed to make their research money back and a gain. But its too much.

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion


Ozempic could be profitably produced for less than $5 a month even as maker Novo Nordisk A/S charges almost $1,000 in the US, according to a study that revives questions about prices for top-selling treatments for diabetes and obesity.

The blockbuster drug could be manufactured for 89 cents to $4.73 for a month’s supply, figures that include a profit margin, researchers at Yale University, King’s College Hospital in London and the nonprofit Doctors Without Borders reported in the journal JAMA Network Open. That compares to the monthly US list price of $968.52 for Ozempic, a weekly injection.

Novo declined to provide production costs for Ozempic and Wegovy, its related drug for obesity. The company said it’s making significant investments to ensure that the public has access to its widely popular drugs. It’s making about $6 billion in capital expenditures and spending $11 billion to acquire production facilities from Catalent Inc. as part of those efforts, according to an emailed response to questions.

“This outrageously high price has the potential to bankrupt Medicare, the American people and our entire health care system,” Senator Bernie Sanders, who has held hearings about high US drug prices, said in a statement after the findings came out. The Vermont independent called on Novo Nordisk to lower the list price of Ozempic to $155 a month or less, in line with what it charges in other countries.

The study extends research showing how steep US markups are for GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy and underlines longstanding criticism of prices for diabetes therapies, especially insulin. On a per-month basis, Ozempic generally can be produced for less than various forms of insulin, a lifesaving diabetes drug that’s been available for decades, the study found.

“The profit margin is immense,” on drugs like Ozempic, said Melissa Barber, a public health economist at Yale and the study’s corresponding author. “There should be a conversation in policy about what is a fair price.”

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion. Patents linked to the drugs are likely to expire in June 2033, according to estimates from Bloomberg Law. Novo shares fell 0.8% in Copenhagen, and have gained 26% this year.

Transparency Goal

Drug production costs are often shrouded in secrecy with little clarity on how they relate to prices, if at all. Barber and her colleagues used updated estimates for raw ingredient costs and focused on the costs of producing diabetes drugs, including GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic, along with other diabetes pills and insulins.
“The goal of this research is to have receipts, to be as transparent as possible,” Barber said.

Novo and other drugmakers slashed US prices for some forms of insulin by as much as 75% last year under pressure from the Biden administration. By some estimates, however, the reductions made those products more profitable because they eliminated rebates paid to pharmacy benefit managers, the middlemen who negotiate prices for payers and employers.

Novo said in an email that 75% of its gross earnings goes to rebates and discounts to ensure patients have access to products like semaglutide, the active ingredient in Wegovy and Ozempic. Drugmakers often cite the high costs of research that may last years as a reason for their prices. Spending on drug research and development was almost $5 billion last year and will rise this year, Novo said.


Still, debate over the cost of drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy is ramping up. State health plans and Medicaid offices are seeing growing bills for Ozempic and its sister drug Wegovy, raising questions about whether the increases in cost are sustainable. In January, North Carolina cut off coverage of anti-obesity medicines for state employees, citing soaring costs and lack of agreement on pricing from drugmakers.

Surprisingly, the study found that the biggest cost in producing Ozempic is not the active medicine, called semaglutide, but the disposable pens used to inject it. They can be made for no more than $2.83 per month’s supply, the authors concluded, based on interviews with former employees and consultants to injection device manufacturers. One Ozempic pen is used weekly and lasts a month.

Other Costs
By contrast, the active drug in Ozempic can be produced for about 29 cents for a month’s supply, or 7.2 cents for a typical weekly dose, the research found. It’s not cheap to make — semaglutide costs over $70,000 per kilogram. But only a tiny quantity of the drug is used in each weekly dose.

Other costs include those of filling each pen, estimated at 20 cents per monthly dose, and other chemical ingredients, which the study estimates at 15 cents per monthly dose.
The analysis doesn’t include estimates for the cost of making Wegovy. Separate research from the University of Liverpool and elsewhere found last year that Wegovy could be produced for a mere $40 a month.

They are hawking the same drug (different name) on Fux News, something to replace pillow guy. Includes a little cartoon for doing the weekly stick - right in the beer belly...
 

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Does she have an opinion on why they have stalled since I bought them? I was hoping for the jackpot after the Opra infomercial. Now not looking so certain.
I think that after the infomercial is too late.

The heavy hitters probably already knew that an Oprah commercial was upcoming and pushed the price up rapidly on the potential. Once the commercial came out the market had already adjusted to that potential. I think this happens all the time. By the time Joe Schmoe (us) hears about it the insiders have taken the lion's share of profits by getting the news earlier.
 

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I think that after the infomercial is too late.

The heavy hitters probably already knew that an Oprah commercial was upcoming and pushed the price up rapidly on the potential. Once the commercial came out the market had already adjusted to that potential. I think this happens all the time. By the time Joe Schmoe (us) hears about it the insiders have taken the lion's share of profits by getting the news earlier.
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So it was all a sham. I raised my stop loss price to $127. I've only got so much sense of humor.
 

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What was a sham? The infomercial?
I believe it works. Opra's infomercial seemed genuine enough. There are people who just can't seem to lose weight under normal circumstances. Some of the people on the infomercial seemed credible. I watched a doc on weight loss many years ago and a woman who worked in the medical field doing laboratory work was shown spending her spare time slogging on a tread mill or a stair master trying to lose weight without success. She said she was normal until she took some kind of acne medication and that fucked up her metabolism. Just the original post saying it can be produced and sold for $5.00 a month as opposed to $1000 a month might explain the sudden screeching halt the stock price is experiencing. I haven't sold it all yet, but I am close.
 
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My wife is diabetic and has been on ozempic for 2 years, originally some discomfort for a while only. She has lost weight but the beauty of this drug is if you were previously taking insulin and having to stab yourself twice a day every day, compared to ozempic where you stab yourself once a week, it is a miracle drug.
 

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Notorious for nausea and diarrhea

I keep both Gravol and Immodium in my medicine chest.

My first bad reaction was by far the worst. 16 hours of abdominal pain and at one point I puked 6 times in a 10 hour period.
 

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Keep an eye on this one...
I got a few Lilly shares but loaded up on Novo. Lilly is very expensive. Interesting article though. Thanks.
 
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Works good for weight loss, but you have to stay on it for life, otherwise you'll gain your weight back. Plus we don't know long term side effects. Bunch of thieves, they should be allowed to make their research money back and a gain. But its too much.

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion


Ozempic could be profitably produced for less than $5 a month even as maker Novo Nordisk A/S charges almost $1,000 in the US, according to a study that revives questions about prices for top-selling treatments for diabetes and obesity.

The blockbuster drug could be manufactured for 89 cents to $4.73 for a month’s supply, figures that include a profit margin, researchers at Yale University, King’s College Hospital in London and the nonprofit Doctors Without Borders reported in the journal JAMA Network Open. That compares to the monthly US list price of $968.52 for Ozempic, a weekly injection.

Novo declined to provide production costs for Ozempic and Wegovy, its related drug for obesity. The company said it’s making significant investments to ensure that the public has access to its widely popular drugs. It’s making about $6 billion in capital expenditures and spending $11 billion to acquire production facilities from Catalent Inc. as part of those efforts, according to an emailed response to questions.

“This outrageously high price has the potential to bankrupt Medicare, the American people and our entire health care system,” Senator Bernie Sanders, who has held hearings about high US drug prices, said in a statement after the findings came out. The Vermont independent called on Novo Nordisk to lower the list price of Ozempic to $155 a month or less, in line with what it charges in other countries.

The study extends research showing how steep US markups are for GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy and underlines longstanding criticism of prices for diabetes therapies, especially insulin. On a per-month basis, Ozempic generally can be produced for less than various forms of insulin, a lifesaving diabetes drug that’s been available for decades, the study found.

“The profit margin is immense,” on drugs like Ozempic, said Melissa Barber, a public health economist at Yale and the study’s corresponding author. “There should be a conversation in policy about what is a fair price.”

Novo’s combined 2023 sales of Ozempic and Wegovy topped $18 billion. Patents linked to the drugs are likely to expire in June 2033, according to estimates from Bloomberg Law. Novo shares fell 0.8% in Copenhagen, and have gained 26% this year.

Transparency Goal

Drug production costs are often shrouded in secrecy with little clarity on how they relate to prices, if at all. Barber and her colleagues used updated estimates for raw ingredient costs and focused on the costs of producing diabetes drugs, including GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic, along with other diabetes pills and insulins.
“The goal of this research is to have receipts, to be as transparent as possible,” Barber said.

Novo and other drugmakers slashed US prices for some forms of insulin by as much as 75% last year under pressure from the Biden administration. By some estimates, however, the reductions made those products more profitable because they eliminated rebates paid to pharmacy benefit managers, the middlemen who negotiate prices for payers and employers.

Novo said in an email that 75% of its gross earnings goes to rebates and discounts to ensure patients have access to products like semaglutide, the active ingredient in Wegovy and Ozempic. Drugmakers often cite the high costs of research that may last years as a reason for their prices. Spending on drug research and development was almost $5 billion last year and will rise this year, Novo said.


Still, debate over the cost of drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy is ramping up. State health plans and Medicaid offices are seeing growing bills for Ozempic and its sister drug Wegovy, raising questions about whether the increases in cost are sustainable. In January, North Carolina cut off coverage of anti-obesity medicines for state employees, citing soaring costs and lack of agreement on pricing from drugmakers.

Surprisingly, the study found that the biggest cost in producing Ozempic is not the active medicine, called semaglutide, but the disposable pens used to inject it. They can be made for no more than $2.83 per month’s supply, the authors concluded, based on interviews with former employees and consultants to injection device manufacturers. One Ozempic pen is used weekly and lasts a month.

Other Costs
By contrast, the active drug in Ozempic can be produced for about 29 cents for a month’s supply, or 7.2 cents for a typical weekly dose, the research found. It’s not cheap to make — semaglutide costs over $70,000 per kilogram. But only a tiny quantity of the drug is used in each weekly dose.

Other costs include those of filling each pen, estimated at 20 cents per monthly dose, and other chemical ingredients, which the study estimates at 15 cents per monthly dose.
The analysis doesn’t include estimates for the cost of making Wegovy. Separate research from the University of Liverpool and elsewhere found last year that Wegovy could be produced for a mere $40 a month.

Big Pharma is a curse on humanity. I am on trulicity for the last six years, at $150 to $160 per month. Same class of drug. No weight loss that I noticed in all this time. My brother is on ozempic and it didn’t help him to lose weight. If there is any weight loss, I was told it would be due, for ozempic, to partial stomach paralysis. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...n a,side effects, including stomach paralysis.
 
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