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JohnLarue

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I sincerely pray for our children you’re not a teacher.
I had a back and forth with this guy
As I recall not only is he a teacher, he is a union delegate (or was)

i also recall how he was fully behind using kids as negotiating pawns, just part of the (extortion) process
Then I recall he was also quite proud of his real estate portfolio.

his retorts consisted of never ending childish cartoon characters blithering nonsense

one can only pray his is just a basement dwelling troll pretending to be a teacher
the thought of this guy teaching children was very disturbing, so i put him on ignore
 

Not getting younger

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Maybe one day you clowns will realize I don’t really say anything that isn’t in the report…. or isn’t recommended by people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000001 lumens to.

So all you’re really doing is insulting their intelligence, expertise and irrefutable credentials.

Aren’t you guys special, and maybe that explains a lot with respect to train wrecks and voters on the left. And givens Sammy Ss bonus point faceplants pertaining to the chief elections officers, headlines and more. Explains some things with todays education system and lack of quality.
 
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SammyS

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Maybe one day you clowns will realize I don’t really say anything that isn’t in the report…. or isn’t recommended by people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000001 lumens to.
So all you’re really doing is insulting their intelligence, expertise and irrefutable credentials.
Aren’t you guys special, and maybe that explains a lot with respect to train wrecks and voters on the left.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
But the problem NGY is that you CAN'T ANSWER 1 QUESTION
So let's try this again...
On page 221 of the Drummond Report
"Since their development in the mid-19th century, publicly funded schools have been a cornerstone of Ontario’s public services. With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness. The importance of a strong foundation through education and the progress made in Ontario’s education system in recent years must be kept in mind when considering how to meet Ontario’s fiscal challenges."


^^^^^^^Ontario has a teacher shortage. Ontario has a doctor shortage.
If publicly funded schools are the cornerstone of Ontario's public service doesn't it make sense to invest in education to build a strong foundation???

 

Not getting younger

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^^^^^^^^^^^^
But the problem NGY is that you CAN'T ANSWER 1 QUESTION
So let's try this again...
On page 221 of the Drummond Report
"Since their development in the mid-19th century, publicly funded schools have been a cornerstone of Ontario’s public services. With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness. The importance of a strong foundation through education and the progress made in Ontario’s education system in recent years must be kept in mind when considering how to meet Ontario’s fiscal challenges."


^^^^^^^Ontario has a teacher shortage. Ontario has a doctor shortage.
If publicly funded schools are the cornerstone of Ontario's public service doesn't it make sense to invest in education to build a strong foundation???

Given your utter lack of reading, comprehension skills, knowledge, historical facts, and thinking you’re smarter than Drummond. Only able to cherry pick one thing vs 600x, ability to debate with any kind of support. Insulting people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000000001 lumen to.

Hard pass Einstein. Your education isn’t worth shit

^^^^^ Hard facts
 

SammyS

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Given your utter lack of reading, comprehension skills, knowledge, historical facts, and thinking you’re smarter than Drummond. Only able to cherry pick one thing vs 600x, ability to debate with any kind of support. Insulting people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000000001 lumen to.
Hard pass Einstein. Your education isn’t worth shit
^^^^^ Hard facts

^^^^^^^^^^^
NGY, so what you're saying is that you have no answer. ZERO!!!

Did Drummond make an error on page 221? Was he having an off day?
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"

"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
^^^^^^^^^What part of this statement do you
NOT understand???
 

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"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"

"strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness"
^^^^^^^^^^^
In NGY's words "Hard facts"


" lack of reading, comprehension skills"
^^^^^^^^^^^
Let me see if I can get this... if Ontario has a very good education system we're going to be successful.

"thinking you’re smarter than Drummond"
^^^^^^^^^^^
LOL... All I'm doing is repeating what is in the Drummond Report!!!

"cherry pick one thing"
^^^^^^^^^^^

OMG... I love cherries!!!
YES, IT'S ONE THING, YOU, DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR!!!!!!!
 
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Frankfooter

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Given your utter lack of reading, comprehension skills, knowledge, historical facts, and thinking you’re smarter than Drummond. Only able to cherry pick one thing vs 600x, ability to debate with any kind of support. Insulting people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000000001 lumen to.

Hard pass Einstein. Your education isn’t worth shit

^^^^^ Hard facts
You bring up Drummond here over and over again.
Did you not read it?
 
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Not getting younger

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Omg what a loser.
hey Sammy S. Find 1 single quote. Where I’ve said I “education” needs to be dismantled. Maybe if you’ve read the report you’d grasp a few things

Thankfully youre no longer teaching
 
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Not getting younger

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You bring up Drummond here over and over again.
Did you not read it?
hey three village idiots.
Who can’t read for shit and educations were a colossal waste of money. What does the word “reform” mean. Nor grasp simpleton simple things like.

If you hold wages flat for “12” years for a whole lot more people……. Plus a whole lot more…….like 600 pages more.of cuts and privatization like raising revenue via Casinos, road tolls and the LCBO…Instead of using an axe like HARRIS you don’t have to lay anyone off.

..of robbing Peter ( other ministries and small towns) to pay Paul ( healthcare in the gta) but leaving core ones alone as much as possible plus 600 pages more. You don’t have to axe education like HARRIS

Do you village idiots even even grasp what the word CORE means…never mind endorsement, weak loonie, deficit ( plus billions more) or pressure means.

Let me know when you simpletons run your lemonade stands after your little leaguer tryouts next summer.

what a bunch of village idiots, who aren’t capable of running lemonade stands, but think they are educated and smart. But also, clearly. Very clearly.
The only ones that matter. That’s public service unions and ps union reps for you. They think they are the center of the universe.

In fact people like Sammy S, clearly doesn’t even give two shits about the have nots in education. Like EAs and ECEs, or PSWs who have paid huge prices thanks to you.

At Sammy S. Who not only has zero clue about chief election officers. Why don’t you answer this Einstein.

Why did Smoky (head of OPSEU ) publicly say TEACHERS have sold their soul to the devil. Let’s see if you have the wee stones and a few brain cells to find your way out of a corner made of wet paper bag to answer. Or do you three handicapped village idiots on team lefty little leaguer want to deny

this historical fact too.


Unions 'sold their souls' to Liberals due to fear of PCs: OPSEU

Let’s see if any of you village idiots will answer just one thing. Instead of pretending you’re smart like the Beaver and endorsing each other, playing a broken record over and over and over and over.

Whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff
And fall flat on your faces. Aren’t you village idiots special simpletons.

/STILL waiting for an actual single answer
 
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SammyS

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Omg what a loser.
hey Sammy S. Find 1 single quote. Where I’ve said I “education” needs to be dismantled. Maybe if you’ve read the report you’d grasp a few things
Thankfully youre no longer teaching
^^^^^^^^^^

You have NOT said "education needs to be dismantled" but unfortunately YOU...

YES, YOU (referring to NGY) can't tell me what this statement means from the Drummond Report...


"Since their development in the mid-19th century, publicly funded schools have been a cornerstone of Ontario’s public services. With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness. The importance of a strong foundation through education and the progress made in Ontario’s education system in recent years must be kept in mind when considering how to meet Ontario’s fiscal challenges."

You started bitching about healthcare.... but you DON'T UNDERSTAND this comment from page 221 of the Drummond Report.
Ontario’s doctors warn of worsening health-care crisis if family doctor shortage is not addressed immediately - Jan. 29, 2024
Family doctor shortage

NGY says "Maybe if you’ve read the report". All I am asking him to do is read one page from the Drummond Report.

^^^^^NGY.... LOL can't do it.
Too much for you. How about one sentence from the Drummond Report...
"With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness."

^^^^^NGY, congratulations... you read the Drummond Report but you DON'T UNDERSTAND ONE SENTENCE....

ONE FU@%kING SENTENCE

^^^^^^^^^^NGY's Ontario.... NO THANK YOU!!!!!
 

Not getting younger

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Lmao.
Same old same old, from Sammy recordS. A cherry picked broken record from page 221 and little grade school memes and gifs.

Too chicken little to scratch two teacher brain cells together to come up anything else.

Or attempt to educate anyone on why teachers sold their souls to the devil.

Clearly thinks he knows better than the likes of Drummond ( a left wing economist ) that none can hold the tiniest, dimest glimmer of dim light to.
and Ontarios chief elections office …………
and now a ps union head too.

Most members of OPSEU work for the Ontario Public Service, municipal governments and services, and the public college system. Additionally, some members work for private companies or organizations that are contracted to provide a public service such as hospitals and medical laboratories.
Aren’t team lefty’s special
 
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JohnLarue

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Given your utter lack of reading, comprehension skills, knowledge, historical facts, and thinking you’re smarter than Drummond. Only able to cherry pick one thing vs 600x, ability to debate with any kind of support. Insulting people you don’t hold .0000000000000000000000000000001 lumen to.

Hard pass Einstein. Your education isn’t worth shit

^^^^^ Hard facts
sammy appears to think a quality education system is a function of union power and can only be achieved by enriching teachers well in excess of the value they deliver

union objectives are completely self serving not at all aligned with the delivery of a quality education system and are driving the province towards bankruptcy


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the current debt is now $600 B having doubled in 8 short years
gee what happened in the early 1990s ?

Bob Rea's public sector union friendly legislation

the unions will kill their host and wont ever accept the responsibility for doing so
 

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sammy appears to think a quality education system is a function of union power and can only be achieved by enriching teachers well in excess of the value they deliver

union objectives are completely self serving not at all aligned with the delivery of a quality education system and are driving the province towards bankruptcy


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the current debt is now $600 B having doubled in 8 short years
gee what happened in the early 1990s ?

Bob Rea's public sector union friendly legislation

the unions will kill their host and wont ever accept the responsibility for doing so
Not really fair to put it all on the unions. Though they absolutely threw their own and others under the bus….Yes it started with Rae but don’t forget the reason for amalgamation…

2003-2012 or 2008…( and now 2019) .and ignored red neck peons falling by the hundreds of thousands. House prices and how much infrastructure cost ( that makes them rich). That line graph is as undeniable as the sun rising in the east, and or “the Drummond commission”

And millions of lefties with their heads in the sand, govt wallets and or koolaid
 
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Frankfooter

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He will not answer the question that has repeatedly been asked of him. Well that happens when one is pushed in the corner!!
Well, he could join skoob on his apparent little holiday. He's probably assuming if he disappears for a few days nobody will remember him being caught lying.

hey three village idiots.
Who can’t read for shit and educations were a colossal waste of money. What does the word “reform” mean. Nor grasp simpleton simple things like.

If you hold wages flat for “12” years for a whole lot more people……. Plus a whole lot more…….like 600 pages more.of cuts and privatization like raising revenue via Casinos, road tolls and the LCBO…Instead of using an axe like HARRIS you don’t have to lay anyone off.

..of robbing Peter ( other ministries and small towns) to pay Paul ( healthcare in the gta) but leaving core ones alone as much as possible plus 600 pages more. You don’t have to axe education like HARRIS

Do you village idiots even even grasp what the word CORE means…never mind endorsement, weak loonie, deficit ( plus billions more) or pressure means.

Let me know when you simpletons run your lemonade stands after your little leaguer tryouts next summer.

what a bunch of village idiots, who aren’t capable of running lemonade stands, but think they are educated and smart. But also, clearly. Very clearly.
The only ones that matter. That’s public service unions and ps union reps for you. They think they are the center of the universe.

In fact people like Sammy S, clearly doesn’t even give two shits about the have nots in education. Like EAs and ECEs, or PSWs who have paid huge prices thanks to you.

At Sammy S. Who not only has zero clue about chief election officers. Why don’t you answer this Einstein.

Why did Smoky (head of OPSEU ) publicly say TEACHERS have sold their soul to the devil. Let’s see if you have the wee stones and a few brain cells to find your way out of a corner made of wet paper bag to answer. Or do you three handicapped village idiots on team lefty little leaguer want to deny

this historical fact too.


Unions 'sold their souls' to Liberals due to fear of PCs: OPSEU

Let’s see if any of you village idiots will answer just one thing. Instead of pretending you’re smart like the Beaver and endorsing each other, playing a broken record over and over and over and over.

Whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff whiff
And fall flat on your faces. Aren’t you village idiots special simpletons.

/STILL waiting for an actual single answer
Congratulations on moving from the 2012 Drummond report to a 2014 article about union fear of the cons gaining power in Ontario.
At this rate we should be able to discuss present day events in another 2-3 years.
 
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JohnLarue

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Not really fair to put it all on the unions.
Bob Rea is also at fault for allowing himself to beholding to the unions
he figured this out latter when he took a step to the right and switched to the liberals

subsequent premiers (ex Harris) can also be faulted for not correcting Rae's mistake, however they choose to just borrow the extortion money in exchange for limited public sector labor peace

the net result, Ontario is the most indebted (per capita) , non-sovereign entity in the world and will face a debt crisis
 
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Not getting younger

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Bob Rea is also at fault for allowing himself to beholding to the unions
he figured this out latter when he took a step to the right and switched to the liberals

subsequent premiers (ex Harris) can also be faulted for not correcting Rae's mistake, however they choose to just borrow the extortion money in exchange for limited public sector labor peace

the net result, Ontario is the most indebted (per capita) , non-sovereign entity in the world and will face a debt crisis
He did try to find a Ray of sunshine and sunny Ray days. Alas the rats bailed ship, made noise which placards and ultimately found a new high bidder.
 

JohnLarue

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He did try to find a Ray of sunshine and sunny Ray days. Alas the rats bailed ship, made noise which placards and ultimately found a new high bidder.

Bob Rea >>>> Nice guy, .......not very bright

yes the rats will always seek a higher bidder
parasites often kill the host and seal their own fate as well
 

Frankfooter

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Bob Rea >>>> Nice guy, .......not very bright

yes the rats will always seek a higher bidder
parasites often kill the host and seal their own fate as well
Wow, you make NGY look current.
He at least progressed to posting a 2014 article but now you're going back to the 90's.
 

Not getting younger

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Wow, you make NGY look current.
He at least progressed to posting a 2014 article but now you're going back to the 90's.
Not a brain cell to try and rebut a thing. Just thunderous noise from a do as I say keyboard warrior.

-who likewise thinks he knows better than.
Cream of the crop experts like Drummond
Ontarios chief elections office
OPSEUs head
Aren’t you guys special.

Who doesn’t have 1 brain cell to see
-Nothings changed, in fact it’s worse post Covid
-Ford is following Commision recommendations like Casinos and LCBO outlets, privatization of non core, wage restraints and more…like robbing Peter ( other ministries and municipalities) to pay Paul.

But isn’t gutting and axing like Harris.


Thank god he has more brains cells to listen to experts than you guys.
 
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