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Skoob

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He is just another prime minister. Nothing extraordinary in a positive or a negative way.
Any leader who is neither positive or negative is just taking up space and oxygen That's reason alone to get rid of them.
 

Skoob

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How many times have we heard this sort of thing about a world leader who has been at the helm for a long time? Yup. Only every single time. In any country. In truth Trudeau is just another average prime minister. Of course righties would have you believe that he is Satan lol.
Doesn't sound like a very compelling case to keep him.
 

Skoob

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We should do away with ALL the oppressive taxes - HST, income tax, all of them!!

PeePee will magically make this country better and hand out largesse to everyone without any taxes at all!!
Nah...you don't have to make shit up...he said he will get rid of the carbon tax...nothing about the other taxes.
But if it makes you feel better inventing fictitious things then go for it.
 

Skoob

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You really can't even name a single policy of the guy you want to run the country?
That's such an admission that you really have no clue.
Getting rid of the carbon tax extortion tax is good policy. Don't you agree?
Or did you miss that part?
 

Butler1000

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I did not lie about numbers. My numbers are from the articles you linked. I guess you read the title but not the article. As usual. Anything to push a narrative, right? And yes, the city and province do have to step up. A lot of it falls in their purview. So what?
The feds set policy then expects other lvls of govt to pay for it. That's the problem. And warehoyses is not solving the problem.

Anyway the majority of voters see it. That's what counts.
 
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Skoob

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So standard political fundraisers are wrong for Liberals but fine for your guy?
My "guy" hasn't been running the country for a decade and the one who caused unaffordability.
Know the difference?
 

Skoob

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Same with PP. PP doesn't make for a compelling case either.
The current polls would disagree with you. Now why would that be the case if there weren't any compelling reasons to get rid of Trudeau?
 

Frankfooter

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There’s a shocker. You want everyone else to pay for you.

perhaps your not aware that Boomer, maybe 1st generation Italians that built the TTC, roads and more. Have paid taxes all their life are going to need tons of money and healthcare is already a shambles

Maybe you don’t know Hydro rates are a mess

Maybe you don’t municipalities need UBI and don’t have the budgets for this that and the other

Maybe your not aware Canada real GDP growth for the past 10 years is under 1%

Maybe you don’t know we have a housing crises too

Maybe you don’t know there are places you’ve thrown under the bus and ignored for 20 years that could use a cup of coffee

Maybe you don’t know the wealth gap is increasing at record speed as is Capital bleed

Maybe you don’t know the vast majority of Canadians neither want nor can afford them.

Maybe you don’t gangs and crime are a major issue and need $$$ too.
Maybe you should vote NDP, not conservative.
 

Frankfooter

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Getting rid of the carbon tax extortion tax is good policy. Don't you agree?
Or did you miss that part?
Hey, you named one policy.
Of course its idiotic.

You whine about the carbon tax but when DoFo just raised natural gas costs to everyone in Ontario by $600 you just bent over and said, put it in a little deeper, sir.

 

Not getting younger

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No. I said taxes and public debt. I pay taxes. So I pay for it too.
I do understand that. I chose my words “poorly”.
I actually recall you saying you’d be ok with more.
it’s the “everyone” else.

Poll numbers are usually worse for the incumbent. Because they have not seen the challenger in power yet. People buy into rhetoric and dont look at the details.
What details?
Do you mean rising crime rates, gangs/guns/ opiods? On the rise since 2014. They and the left have denied for 30 years…details
Debt up to their eyeballs.
record growth in the wealth gap
Record growth in Capital Bleed
1) The economy ( especially the rest of Canada)
2) The housing crises since 2012 ( just after 2008) and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^****
3) Immigration doubling^^^^^^^^^^Where did that 500,000 number come from and where are they all going.^^^^^^^^. Have they given us the data and reasoning for that??? Or just pick a number out of the hat details..
inflation
Interest rates
Division and polarization, intentional wedges
A long laundry list of scandals
Wasted money
Tone deaf
416/905, and Prov train wreck details..and Drummond “pressure” vote buying details.
Chrétien taming spending/debt, just like Harris during the 90s ( funny that)
And then………history repeating itself ( see tiny islands in a sea of debt and sea of blue) and 1,2,3
Details?



As far as the cons go.
When was the last time they reversed women rights, immigration laws (250,000 when Harper left)
…How did the PPC fare. A scary 5%
Fear mongering and division details? See East vs West, urban vs dumb uneducated red neck/truckers on UBI details since 2008 ( and 1 2 3 ).

Fact of the matter is Canadians are slightly left of center. One might say centrist. Massively so. Yet according to you guys and JT there are Neo Nazis racist and far right extremist everywhere..

Or more balanced looks at both Harper/Mulroney details. A lot of political observers/analyst argue the Cons have moved…sorry shifted…closer to center over the past couple decades…the liberals far away. So which party presently reflects Canadas moderate, tolerant ( lol) care for your neighbour( please) centrist values more

details
 
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Skoob

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Poll numbers are usually worse for the incumbent. Because they have not seen the challenger in power yet. People buy into rhetoric and dont look at the details.
Ok you can continue to think that if it makes you feel better.
It's time for change. You can either be part of it, or continue to give JT a pass for ruining this country.
Either way, you can't hold back reality and make excuses for it.
 

Skoob

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Hey, you named one policy.
Of course its idiotic.

You whine about the carbon tax but when DoFo just raised natural gas costs to everyone in Ontario by $600 you just bent over and said, put it in a little deeper, sir.

First you cry because I wouldn't identify any policies...then you cry about it when I do.

Predictable.
 

Skoob

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Don't bet your money on PP yet. Elections are far away.
Lol "elections are far away" but you still expect everyone that's running against Trudeau to unveil their specific policies right now.

Flip flop.
 

Skoob

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Flip flopping is saying, you have a link to Trump's accomplishments and not being able to cough it up when pressed for it. You were hoping nobody would ask, but when pressed, you flip flopped and burned yourself.

Saying, "elections are far away", so don't bet your money on PP yet, because polls say so, is not flip flopping. That is reminding you that the tide could turn any moment.

That has no connection to my demand that PP unveil his detailed platform, right now, when he is actively whining on social media and in the parliament about Trudeau being a terrible PM.
Why should I repost something I already posted just because you don't possess the intelligence to find it? I don't work for you.

No politician unveils their detailed plans 1.5 years away from an election. You are naive and are asking for something no one will provide this far away.

Is that your only argument for why PP should not be the next PM? That's sad.

You should look at all the damage JT has done and that should be enough proof for you as to why change is needed.
 

Frankfooter

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First you cry because I wouldn't identify any policies...then you cry about it when I do.

Predictable.
Predictable, you whine about a small increase in carbon taxes then back a much bigger one on natural gas because DoFo did it.
You are such a hypocrite.
 

Skoob

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Predictable, you whine about a small increase in carbon taxes then back a much bigger one on natural gas because DoFo did it.
You are such a hypocrite.
You asked me to mention any policies and I did...now you're moving to something else.
Like I said, predictable.
 

Skoob

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I did not say PP should not be next PM. I infact said, if he unveils what he would do differently and how he would go about accomplishing it, I am willing to even consider voting for him. But he has not. And you should do what you say you would do. You said, you'd post the link. You did not.

So how can I trust the leader you recommend, who has not even said what he would do?!
He has said what he will do, what more do you want at this point with 1.5 years ahead of an election?
You are asking for something prematurely rather than scrutinizing the current government that has caused damage to this country.
 

Skoob

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Yet you can't even defend that one policy.
predictable.
You didn't ask for me to defend any policies. You asked me to mention any policies.

Now you pivot to asking me to defend a policy because the first thing you asked for was provided and you can't keep asking for that repeatedly to distract any longer.

You're confused aren't you? Meds wearing off?

Today is Monday March 18, 2024. (in case you're disoriented)
 
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