Tone deaf Liberals: Toronto Protest today

RZG

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Exactly, it is normal for every politician to host expensive fundraising dinners. I mean those millionaires and billionaires aren't gonna give you money if you take them to a Chinese buffet restaurant for 15 bucks a plate! 😂

Clever slogans don't make for good policies. What are his actual policies? No idea. It is all just hot air.
Hey,..it worked for Chow!
 

Skoob

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No, I understood the weak point that you were attempting and I explained that every pol has fund raising dinners and suggested a title for PeePee's.

You just didn't understand my posts.
The point isn't that politicians fundraise for their respective parties. They all do.
If you can't wrap your head around the irony of a $1700/plate fundraiser where affordability is being lectured about and the very same people responsible for making things unaffordable are the ones lecturing and charging that amount then I really can't help you.
 
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Skoob

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How many times are you going to post in this thread, now that I ruffled your feathers a little?

You have to "win" this thread, Skooby. Keep posting.
I'll post as often as I feel necessary.
You don't have to respond.

That's what democracy is about. Choices and freedom to express opinions...or not.

I'm obviously hitting a nerve with you because you feel compelled to respond.
 

Skoob

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You don't get it. PP while lecturing about affordability is doing the same thing attending expensive fund raising dinners. Every politician does. It is not out of the ordinary. And why do I expect PP to reveal all his specific policies? Because he is running for PM. Would you tell your employer in your interview that you won't tell them about your specific skills because you will show them once you are on the job? The campaign is the PM candidates "interview". If he is not going to reveal his specific policies it is because he does not have any. That is a fail.
PP hasn't been the one in power for a decade and PP is not the cause of the affordability crisis. You can't seem to understand that.
 
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Skoob

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He is running for the position of PM claiming he will make things better. He needs to therefore explain, how he is going to accomplish that. Failure to articulate the how, is a fail. It is hot air. You cant seem to understand that.
He's already explained. It's not his responsibility this far away from an election to produce policies. The government in power creates policies.
If you've done your research you would already know several of his proposals to fix the mess the Liberals have created.
 
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Not getting younger

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You don't get it do you?
Lecturing about affordability to people who can afford $1700 plates.

And why do you expect Poilievre to reveal all his specific policies right now, 1.5 years from the next election? So the lefty Liberals can steal his ideas?

You should be more concerned about the Liberal destruction of our country over the past decade.
Kinda like telling someone that just wants drinkable water. Thanks for the donation.

Kinda like Freeland telling people struggling to put Mac and cheese on the table vs $1,700 plates to cancel their Disney subscription

or ride bikes to that same indigenous person.

Nope, clearly many just don’t get it. Clearly they are all tone deaf…..Nor can they grasp why they are a tiny island of red, in a sea of blue.
 

Skoob

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It is not just his responsibility, but infact mandatory for anyone that is intellectually honest. What is PP going to do? I want to know as a voter. I do not know right now. So everything he says is just hot air and bullshit.
The only thing you really need to know and understand is that Trudeau will be gone and PP will be the next PM.
You knowing or not knowing or not wanting to do your own research on his plans won't change that.

It's funny you want to know so much but you wouldn't vote for him regardless. So what your point here exactly?

Someone needs to save this country after all the damage the current government has done.
 

Skoob

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I have no problem voting for PP if he were to actually lay out what he wants to do. All he's got is rhetoric.
Then you would already know the plans he has spoken about and what he has put forward in Parliament when speaking about what his party wants to do.
I don't believe you would vote for him.

If that was even a consideration on your part, you would be scrutinizing Trudeau not defending him at every opportunity.

I call b.s.
 

Skoob

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That is vague rhetoric. Anyone can say what needs to be done. The HOW is what is important. It is not enough to say, "reduce inflation" or "reduce immigration". The devil is in the details. PP so far only has rhetoric and catchphrases. Nothing else.
Don't be lazy...he has put forward what he wants to do many times and continues to do so. Google is your friend.

if you think any political party reveals their specific policies and plans in detail 1.5 years ahead of an election then you really don't know how politics work and campaigning work. Why would you give your opponent that much time to plan against you?
It's funny that you don't understand that basic concept.
 

Skoob

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What is there to plan? You tell the people what you are going to do based on your beliefs. The people will decide who to vote. PP has not done that because he does not have a plan. He is relying on outrage and emotions, which is a tried and tested rightie tactic.
The outrage and emotion is already there after a decade of Liberal incompetence whether Poilievre was running for office or not.
People are tired of being forced to follow the Liberal ideology and have had enough.
Come April 1st, when the carbon tax will increase again, the outrage will be even more.

Poilievre can get elected on that single item alone as he will get rid of that extortion tax as he has said many times. Did you miss that? If there a simpler way you would like him to say it?
 

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Harper sure did and he was PM longer than JT. And PeePee was part of the incompetent, corrupt Harpo $$$$-train that fucked everything up for ordinary people.
inflation was under 2% and within BOC target ranges aka monetary policy. So um. Unless you can point to data other than hot air……

.debt grew but that was in part due to 2008, in part a threatened coalition demanding he open purse strings.

Crime rates also continued down until 2014 before taking off…

nor did he drop a consumption tax on people. Especially people without cheap nat gas or public transportation

So um. Sounds a lot like spin and hot air

Forgot
Oil prices tanked in 2012 which hurt Alberta’s economy

and the largest province with the most people are a were are train wreck and ball and chain. So much so, for the first time ever Ontario was a have not province and needed equalization payments. 2009-2019

So sound a lot like people lived somewhere other than Canada or partisans spin and bs
 
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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
Desperate parodies and memes are all the Liberal supporters really have left. The usual death knell of a party about to be vanquished like they were in Ontario.
 
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Don't be lazy...he has put forward what he wants to do many times and continues to do so. Google is your friend.

if you think any political party reveals their specific policies and plans in detail 1.5 years ahead of an election then you really don't know how politics work and campaigning work. Why would you give your opponent that much time to plan against you?
It's funny that you don't understand that basic concept.
Then you must be able to detail these policies if you've heard them so many time.
What are PeePee's policies, skoob?
 

Skoob

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Then you must be able to detail these policies if you've heard them so many time.
What are PeePee's policies, skoob?
I don't accept homework from strangers on the internet.

If you're too lazy to look them up yourself and follow what PP has been saying for the past several years that's not my problem.

Figure it out if you're so curious.

You have enough problems with the current PM supporting genocide.
 
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He is just another prime minister. Nothing extraordinary in a positive or a negative way.
I'd say at this point on the international stage he is pretty much a joke and not taken seriously. Domestically he is out of touch publicly with his unpopularity and has some serious trust issues with corruotion at this point.

It seems his intention is to hope for a Trump win so he can fearmonger that into another minority win.
 
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Frankfooter

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I don't accept homework from strangers on the internet.

If you're too lazy to look them up yourself and follow what PP has been saying for the past several years that's not my problem.

Figure it out if you're so curious.

You have enough problems with the current PM supporting genocide.
You really can't even name a single policy of the guy you want to run the country?
That's such an admission that you really have no clue.
 
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