Taxpayers to Fork Out $13,000,000,000: The Cost of Doug's Unlawful and Spiteful Labor Wage Legislation

[Skoob]

Are you talking about the chart that you posted that proved DoFo's policies doubled international students?
Do you know how screwed Ontario universities are for budgets this year?

Its amazing that you post stuff that proves you are wrong then declare you won arguments so often.

The chart you failed to understand and then made up fictitious numbers about. Yes that's the one.

I even demonstrated the math in a very well presented fashion which you then ignored after realizing your narrative crumbled at that point.

You remember it well.

 

[Skoob]

So if and when PeePee becomes PM because I do believe the PISS STAIN is going to win, he should fire most of the Federal unionized staff and put them all on the Unemployment line. I say, power to him this way come around the next election his pissy ass stain will be wiped away and we will be able to return to normal.

If ifs and buts...you know that saying right?

I didn't say fire...I said control their power so they don't perpetually extort more money from taxpayers. If they don't like what they're being paid, they should find a job that pays them more. Crazy concept right?

 

[JohnLarue]

They can’t even read the Drummond report, grasp just how bad it was, or the train wreck is….or grasp what he meant by “pressure”…either. Aka voters addicted to spending. You hope they can read that?

they should able to read a graph and they should understand "the largest debt burden per capita for a non-sovereign entity......... in the world"

some grade school kids will understand this , but not the ideologically damaged adults?

 

[JohnLarue]

You want to pull an Argentina on Ontario, don't you larue?

actually i wish to prevent an Argentina on Ontario

what part of "unsustainable" confuses you?

is it the "sustainable" part or the "un" part

 

[Not getting younger]

they should able to read a graph and they should understand "the largest debt burden per capita for a non-sovereign entity......... in the world"

some grade school kids will understand this , but not the ideologically damaged adults?

You’d hope, but I don’t have much faith in humanity these days. Especially certain fanatical segments.

They likewise don’t grasp that hold program spending for years and years and year and years also includes how many heads per capita can be hired.

Then came Covid
Now come Boomers

 

[Not getting younger]

Nor do they grasp robbing Peter to pay Paul affects not only small municipalities but also ministries within the big picture.

Nor do they grasp how much that infrastructure shit rhats crumbling everywhere that has to be built first and paid for by everyone for their economic benefit, cost or why it’s financed for years and years, and years before it’s staffed and wages are determined and not just plucked out of the air like magical $$. Or dumb truckers bring them food and widgets on a single 401 and $$$$$$$$$…truckloads of $$$$$$$$$$$ everyday.

or boomers

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

or
Or or or

 

[Frankfooter]

Can’t even grasp that if you hold program spending and wage restraints for years and years years and years .thats not a cut.

You mean like Bill 124?

 

[Frankfooter]

The chart you failed to understand and then made up fictitious numbers about. Yes that's the one.

I even demonstrated the math in a very well presented fashion which you then ignored after realizing your narrative crumbled at that point.

You remember it well.

The chart you posted that showed that DoFo doubled the number of international students but the one you claimed didn't show that?
Yup.

First DoFo cuts funding so university and colleges flood Ontario with international students. They find that they can't afford rent because DoFo killed rent control. Now the libs are doing something about it and limiting international students but that leaves universities and colleges cutting programs left right and centre.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767587059475112214

 

[Anbarandy]

they should able to read a graph and they should understand "the largest debt burden per capita for a non-sovereign entity......... in the world"

some grade school kids will understand this , but not the ideologically damaged adults?

actually i wish to prevent an Argentina on Ontario

what part of "unsustainable" confuses you?

is it the "sustainable" part or the "un" part

Yet, Ford is throwing taxpayer's money around like a drunken sailor with most of it landing in the ample laps of private interests.

Billions upon billions. 50, 60, 70 billion and counting.

 

[Not getting younger]

Yet, Ford is throwing taxpayer's money around like a drunken sailor with most of it landing in the ample laps of private interests.

Billions upon billions. 50, 60, 70 billion and counting.

one reason why some far right nazis that don’t know what they are talking about unlike team lefty fanatics have more than once criticized him………
See also a credit downgrade in 2019( cough cough) and Dr Mintz. Another expert team lefty won’t listen to, and thinks they know better than…..

But on that topic. You still haven’t read the Drummond report, grasped why the rest Ontario/Canada call you the center of the Universe or politicians that like thrones, listen to squeaky wheels and spending pressure. I wonder if you grasp politics

For that matter see John Tory too, and righties (Canadian Tax payers federation) that criticized him too.

 

[Frankfooter]

actually i wish to prevent an Argentina on Ontario

what part of "unsustainable" confuses you?

is it the "sustainable" part or the "un" part

PeePee would do an Argentina on Canada.
DoFo is doing a slow one on Ontario now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768615140755169587

 

[Not getting younger]

PeePee would do an Argentina on Canada.
DoFo is doing a slow one on Ontario now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768615140755169587

Someone that couldn’t doesn’t know what weights are, what municipalities can or can’t do, what debentures are ( never mind way more vehicles). Who don’t understand 4 year contracts or back pay. Never mind municipalities and police chiefs are saying about their budgets…..never mind a lot more.

, but thinks he knows better than the likes of Drummond ( 600 pages he’s incapable of understanding/aborbing) or Dr Mintz….. is still a closet ghetto climate denier. Can’t handle facts, stats, historical facts/data and what experts have to say and have been saying for years…And still arguing the earth is flat.

lol

and yet again deflecting

 

[JohnLarue]

Yet, Ford is throwing taxpayer's money around like a drunken sailor with most of it landing in the ample laps of private interests.

Billions upon billions. 50, 60, 70 billion and counting.

loonie left wing rhetoric

if you had a clue you would know the provinces biggest expense by far is to the unionized public sector employees

unsustainable debt means without union co-operation now, there will be unavoidable layoffs in the future

this is not left vs right
rather it is cold hard mathematical certainty

 

[JohnLarue]

You’d hope, but I don’t have much faith in humanity these days. Especially certain fanatical segments.

They likewise don’t grasp that hold program spending for years and years and year and years also includes how many heads per capita can be hired.

Then came Covid
Now come Boomers

yeah the shear volume of boomers will very likely break universal health care in Ontario and in Canada

 

[Frankfooter]

Someone that couldn’t doesn’t know what weights are, what municipalities can or can’t do, what debentures are ( never mind way more vehicles). Who don’t understand 4 year contracts or back pay. Never mind municipalities and police chiefs are saying about their budgets…..never mind a lot more.

, but thinks he knows better than the likes of Drummond ( 600 pages he’s incapable of understanding/aborbing) or Dr Mintz….. is still a closet ghetto climate denier. Can’t handle facts, stats, historical facts/data and what experts have to say and have been saying for years…And still arguing the earth is flat.

lol

and yet again deflecting

Do you back protecting social services like Drummond says we should do or do you back cutting social services like Drummond says we should do?

 

[Frankfooter]

loonie left wing rhetoric

if you had a clue you would know the provinces biggest expense by far is to the unionized public sector employees

unsustainable debt means without union co-operation now, there will be unavoidable layoffs in the future

this is not left vs right
rather it is cold hard mathematical certainty

You mean like teachers, doctors, nurses and cops?
Perhaps you should suggest a way to legislate not giving them raises.
Like Bill 124

Then, after you've got all those people's wages don't forget to whine about how nobody can afford the cost of living with inflation.
Whatever you do, don't discuss taxing the rich.

 

[K Douglas]

Correction.
prior to Covid.
Extreme measures had to be taken, in order to balance a budget by 2018. Extreme measures ( that also included alternative revenue streams that aren’t called taxes) and growing the economy… that weren’t all taken, nor did deficits/spending stop…
then came robbing Peter ( small towns) of RNs, Drs and $$ pay Paul ( the gta)
Then. Came crumbling infrastructure everywhere
Etc

Then came Covid
Then came Boomers

I stand corrected. Bill passed in November 2019, 4 months before COVID.
Bill 124 was obviously poorly drafted but in many ways the blame for its impetus belongs to years of Liberal economic mismanagement. The books were a fucking mess. Particularly when Orville Wynne took over in 2013.
There are several meritorious arguments in favor of at least having limited collective bargaining powers for Public Sector Unions. That would include bargaining over direct compensation (wages). At the very least I would agree with that.

 

[squeezer]

If ifs and buts...you know that saying right?

I didn't say fire...I said control their power so they don't perpetually extort more money from taxpayers. If they don't like what they're being paid, they should find a job that pays them more. Crazy concept right?

Unions have a right to negotiate their contract, crazy concept right?

 

[Not getting younger]

I stand corrected. Bill passed in November 2019, 4 months before COVID.
Bill 124 was obviously poorly drafted but in many ways the blame for its impetus belongs to years of Liberal economic mismanagement. The books were a fucking mess. Particularly when Orville Wynne took over in 2013.
There are several meritorious arguments in favor of at least having limited collective bargaining powers for Public Sector Unions. That would include bargaining over direct compensation (wages). At the very least I would agree with that.

“yep”
And no worries “correction”. Just couldnt quickly think of a good addendum.

All this stuff, clearly still in play today (And ford clearly following some expert advice and looking for some efficiencies/privatizing some non core services/fluff if you will) including Casinos and LCBO outlets but weirdly not road tolls….. goes all the way back to 2003-2010 when the left in Queens park blew their loads buying union, gta support and spent us into a train wreck. as Drummond said with explicit reference to Harris
“Pressure builds”

..and the left in the gta stuck their heads in the sand to that….and Ontarios manufacturing sector getting thrown under the bus. By shit happens and by them. Nor do they grasp why house prices and rent went ballistic 2012-2014. And all they want is more more more more of the same.

they don’t even grasp they threw public servants under the bus with wage restraints, “head per capita counts” and robbing other ministries to pay Paul…smalls towns correction Municipalities and what they can/can’t do without tax bases…. without local economies…..they claim to champion ( socio economics ) robbing Peter to pay Paul, under the bus too. Even to the point they are being terrorized and deny deny, or too bad so sad…

warned and warned and warned.
Then came Covid which has made things worse

Now Boomers are here and these are just the surface. There’s surgeries and ERs, and GPs and so much more. Plus labour force concerns/issues like the dirty uneducated trades to build a million homes and dumb truckers to deliver the lumber and so much more.

Ontario breaks ground on 200-bed LTC Home in Pickering - Durham Post

The new home will provide 200 new beds and is expected to welcome its first residents in summer 2026, said a statement.

durhampost.ca

2018. When Ford took over…. 1.3 million people without GPs

10% of Ontarians don’t have a family doctor, making ‘hallway medicine’ worse: Which party do you trust to fix it? | Globalnews.ca

Accessing primary care and a family doctor is a struggle for many Ontarians. So what are Kathleen Wynne, Andrea Horwath, or Doug Ford going to do about it? And will this issue impact the way you vote?

globalnews.ca

And on and on and on. Then there’s gangs, crumbling infrastructure, and on and on…

Should a listened to experts when you shoulda
Thanks Frank and team left. You left Ford and everyone a Humpty Dumpty train wreck to try and piece together again.

Before (Covid) boomers

 

[Skoob]

The chart you posted that showed that DoFo doubled the number of international students but the one you claimed didn't show that?
Yup.

You seriously think based on your interpretation of the chart that DoFo doubled the number of international students in 3 years?
Ok this is fun...show me how you came to that conclusion based on the chart.
I would advise you to put your face protection on because you're about to do another face plant...
Show me...