The Bible doesn’t indicate that God hates abortion
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That's quite a meandering explanation he provides but not sure if he is answering the right question and if it's actually a question?
Was the question "Does God hate abortion?"
Or was the question "According to scripture, does God condone murder and if yes, under what circumstances?"
I dunno…I took it more broadly to mean that there is no clearly defined stance articulated in Biblical scripture around abortion and that those who claim otherwise are imposing their own meaning for their own purposes.
I have no idea what the bible says but it really makes no difference, Cristian fundamentalists will find some way to interpret it to mean that aborttion is forbidden in the same way that for 100 years the used the bible to dehumanize and enslave blacks even though the bible says no such thing,
Not really.
Murder is not a religious concept as far as I know, although most religions forbid it.
Same goes for theft and a few other things.
One could argue that law is some kind of tribal religion as it can differ from place to place, country to country, etc.
Christians, believers of other religions and deists with
no specific religious affiliation believe humans have a soul.
After you died your soul will meet God. If you are a good
guy in the eyes of God you will spend the eternity with the
souls of your loved ones in heaven provided they are all
good people as well.
The Bible gives no indication if an unborn has a soul.
It could be that souls are created at the moment an egg
is fertilized by a sperm. If I were a serious Christian I'd
play the safe side so as not to bring God's wrath on me
for the support of the evil of abortion of a creation of Him
meant to live forever in either heaven or hell.
no specific religious affiliation believe humans have a soul.
After you died your soul will meet God. If you are a good
guy in the eyes of God you will spend the eternity with the
souls of your loved ones in heaven provided they are all
good people as well.
The Bible gives no indication if an unborn has a soul.
It could be that souls are created at the moment an egg
is fertilized by a sperm. If I were a serious Christian I'd
play the safe side so as not to bring God's wrath on me
for the support of the evil of abortion of a creation of Him
meant to live forever in either heaven or hell.
I find it interesting that our left-leaning comrades on this board and elsewhere tend to not be religious, and sometimes go so far as insulting those that are.
A true Communist trait if not the foundation of Marxist beliefs.
https://victimsofcommunism.org/curriculum-chapter-3/
Makes sense. If I were a good Christian or other deist I would live my life according to those beliefs so as to get my just reward on death and not try and impose my beliefs on others.
If I was a good Christian and I saw Donald Trump with a bible I would vomit uncontrollably
I presume this declaration does not pass as imposition of
one's belief on others:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
If this declaration is to be taken seriously I suppose the right of the unborn
would better be respected wherever possible for it could be a life created
by the creator. At least abortion of them should not be enshrined in the constitution.
Personally I believe it is self-evident there is no God and my
belief (disbelief) has more merit than belief in the right to abortion.
But I won't demand it should be written into the constitution.
I am sure Christian fundamentalists were among those who
dehumanized and enslaved blacks. In fairness slaveholders who
did not even need to condone slavery through reinterpretation
of the bible were worse . It just took greed and desire to live an
extravagant lifestyle for them to knowingly commit the crime against
humanity.
The Dark Side of Thomas Jefferson
A new portrait of the founding father challenges the long-held perception of Thomas Jefferson as a benevolent slaveholder
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no doubt but I was just referring to the perversion of the bible.I am sure Christian fundamentalists were among those who
dehumanized and enslaved blacks. In fairness slaveholders who
did not even need to condone slavery through reinterpretation
of the bible were worse . It just took greed and desire to live an
extravagant lifestyle for them to knowingly commit the crime against
humanity.
The Dark Side of Thomas Jefferson
A new portrait of the founding father challenges the long-held perception of Thomas Jefferson as a benevolent slaveholder
Any religious person who embraces anything about the sickening Trump [ who has no morals ] should be ashamed and
in fact just re-enforces what bs religion is.
Your comment is a perfect example of confirmation bias.
i.e. you already think religion is bs, and are using Trump to confirm your bias about it.
Very interesting.
Carry on.
Whereas a true believer like the skooby poo knows that one only has to believe in their dear leader, the one and only orange mussoliin.
Listen, everyone has a right to believe whatever religious ideologies that they want to follow. But when some religious followers consider those who do not follow their particular sect or religion or are atheists to be a heretic resulting in harassment etc, then that is where the rights of those individuals are violated. If we are supposed to be "left wingers", that does not mean that we are not religious. Nowadays, the fact is that 75% of young adults abandon their faith once they graduate from high school. Does that mean that they are all "left leaning". So they are going the "marxist way" according to the alt right logic!!
wouldn’t you expect that young generation at any point in time and in any society is liberal rather than conservative?
There are sincere Christians among supporters of both the GOP and
the Democrats. The evangelical segment of the Christian world in the
U.S. see the Democratic Party as their enemy. They may not like Trump
but will have to vote against the Democrats.
One reason I cannot rule out the possibility of a Trump win entirely is that
people who find Trump sickening may vote for him anyway.
You know hate the sinner not the sin? Same kind of thing with some evangelical and other christian fundamentalists think that they got abortion so tolerate the heretic.
It is the very large group among them who really believe that the chosen one is a good christian or in some cases that he is the second coming, that is truly baffling.
