Holiday Inn at airport giving really bad vibe?

[Paprika]

Made a list of restaurants near the Holiday Inn:

Milestones
Makimono Sushi Bar Restaurant
St Louis Bar & Grill
Perkins
Swiss Chalet
Subway
Quesada Burritos & Tacos
Harvey
Silver Chopsticks Pho Mi Viet Thai
Sushi-ya Japan

I highlighted the top 4: the first 2 are near Toronto Congress Centre, 3rd one is in the plaza on the opposite side of Holiday Inn, 4th one is inside Holiday Inn, I believe these 4 can be used as excuses that justify me being be in the area. The rest are either fast food or things I don't normally eat.

 

[Formal123]

I like you Mr Paprika.
You started a very regular thread, but your comments, apprehensions, paranoia, suggestions and inferences, inciting all of us to rethink our
lais·sez-faire approach towards this hobby.
Now there are 4 pages of this thread in couple days and keep growing.
Pls tell us more your point of views about other aspects of hobbying.

 

[Disgruntled Goat]

So how do you get into the lobby in the first place without buzz code?

This was after the session. I came down and sat there later.

Back in the day, their rising arm barrier on the exit side had a loophole: the gap was large enough to allow a sedan to squeeze through, so I never paid for parking on numerous occasions, I go there less these days but dunno if they had me on file, that's why I get nervous seeing those parking enforcement assholes, and that's why I lift up the hood of that hoodie when I enter the parking lot in an attempt to cover up my face in front of that camera.

So you stole parking payments from them multiple times, and now they're out to get you?

...there is a Perkins right there. I've never eaten there. Apparently it's a chain (just found out today) and there is only one in Toronto. You can say you're trying out the Perkins.

I think I'll do it next time, take a few photos of their menu, memorize their special items, so that I can come up with an excuse of "trying out their amazing food, it's recommended to me by a colleague".

I love this idea, because I saw "District 78 IAMAW International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers" in the same plaza, it's trade union office, they definitely won't be working long hours in the evening and weekends, so plenty of spaces, there's also Red Cross office beside it, so maybe I'll park my car on the opposite side of trade union office close to the charity, so nobody knows if I'm doing charity or union business. Screw those parking enforcement assholes.

If anything I can say I just want to check out St Louis Bar & Grill, it's more believable than Perkins, which is inside a hotel.

Why do you keep coming up with ways to act weirder rather than choosing to act like a normal human?

I don't wear sunglasses, hoodie and mask in the lobby, I'm not a moron

Are you sure?

 

[Disgruntled Goat]

Dunno man, that plaza is kind of hidden with a long, lonely driveway without a sidwalk. There's also high voltage towers overhead.

OMG why do you care about power towers that are 100 feet above you? This hotel is right next to the airport. THE CHEMTRAILS LAND RIGHT ON YOUR HEAD!!!!!

oPeN yOuR eYeS!!1!!1!

 

[Paprika]

Why do you keep coming up with ways to act weirder rather than choosing to act like a normal human?

Because your ways are dangerous and amateurish...I ran into my colleague in a hotel 500 km from my home in Ottawa during Winterlude.

What if a cop questions you? You're meeting a work colleague from out of town, give me a name, let's see if the guy is a hotel guest. What name do you give? Amber aka Jessica Rabbit? You would have blown your cover right there. And you're sitting the lobby reading Terb FFS...any cop would look at your phone and immediately figure out you are a john. You're way better off saying you're trying out Perkins.

Sitting in a condo lobby 80 km away from your home when you don't know anybody in that building, you cannot even talk yourself out of this one. If I were you, I would get the fuck out of there ASAP, in case of a police raid, you won't get picked up.

 

[Mr.Gr33k]

Saw this dude at the hotel lobby. @Paprika was this you??

 

[Paprika]

I like you Mr Paprika.
You started a very regular thread, but your comments, apprehensions, paranoia, suggestions and inferences, inciting all of us to rethink our
lais·sez-faire approach towards this hobby.
Now there are 4 pages of this thread in couple days and keep growing.
Pls tell us more your point of views about other aspects of hobbying.

I have a similar thread if you have something to add:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/how-to-be-discreet-about-hobby.839619/

 

[northofsixty]

Because your ways are dangerous and amateurish...I ran into my colleague at a hotel 500 km from my home in Ottawa during Winterlude.

What if a cop questions you? You're meeting a work colleague from out of town, give me a name, let's see if the guy is a hotel guest. What name do you give? Amber aka Jessica Rabbit? And you're sitting the lobby reading Terb FFS...any cop would look at your phone and immediately figure out you are a john.

Sitting in a condo lobby 80 km away from your home when you don't know anybody in that building, you cannot even talk yourself out of this one. If I were you, I would get the fuck out of there ASAP, in case of a police raid, you won't get picked up.

I really think you need to change your terb handle to "Paranoia" as it is a much more apt name for you.

How often do you hear of police (or as you so cutely call them "the popo") raiding a condo or hotel where legitimate agencies operate? How often in all the thousands of posts on terb do you read about people being stopped by police or hotel staff, or concierges at condos to give them the third degree and denying them entry?? I have been seeing sp's for many years and have never experienced any of the situations you seem so terrified about.

But hey you do you if that is what it takes for you to cope with your delusional fear of persecution.

If I ever see a guy driving an older model red car while wearing a hoodie, a mask and sunglasses entering the parking lot on Dixon I will honk my horn at you and give you the secret terb hand signal so you know I am not an undercover police officer about to demand to see the texting history on your phone.

By the way given your level of paranoia you may want to delete your informative Vivid Dreams posts - it is a goldmine of details the "popo" could use to track you down.

 

[xix]

Because your ways are dangerous and amateurish...I ran into my colleague in a hotel 500 km from my home in Ottawa during Winterlude.

Sitting in a condo lobby 80 km away from your home when you don't know anybody in that building, you cannot even talk yourself out of this one. If I were you, I would get the fuck out of there ASAP, in case of a police raid, you won't get picked up.

You tell the cop that your wife kicked you out for cheating which you never did so now, you found a sugar momi to really cheat.
IF that is a problem for him (cop) , tell him you are at loss, and you cannot give him your copy of a bible.

 

[Paprika]

How often do you hear of police (or as you so cutely call them "the popo") raiding a condo or hotel where legitimate agencies operate? How often in all the thousands of posts on terb do you read about people being stopped by police or hotel staff, or concierges at condos to give them the third degree and denying them entry?? I have been seeing sp's for many years and have never experienced any of the situations you seem so terrified about.

I planned to withdraw some cash from a bank in the evening, they locked the door because of homeless people so I couldn't access the ATM inside.

I planned to fuel up at a certain gas station, the pump was not working, I have to fuel up at a different place.

I was driving on a country highway on a business trip and almost got killed by a big truck, I did not anticipate that.

You can get killed by a rogue wheel too

Point is, things don't go as planned, and when the raiding does happen, I do not want to be a part of it. I had many sessions with ladies, doesn't mean I will be complacent.

I'm experienced in dealing with hotel staff and concierge. and I don't care for them. I brought up the cleaner looking at me suspiciously because I usually try to remember as many hotel staff's faces as possible, and I figure out their duties through observation, so that I know who is who. It's just a detail I remembered: she is not friendly.

Other than the fact that I never paid a single cent for parking at that place all these years, it's really the guy with dark complexion that bothered me most, sometimes when locking eyes with some shithead with crazy eyes, it creeps me out. Many years ago we hired this guy, and he looked like he wants to kill somebody, I'm glad the dumb fuck quit the job after only one day.

 

[massman]

There are ways that guys should behave to protect their discretion and privacy, and not entangle with the law. However there is a point where you become so worried/ paranoid that you act in ways that actually come across as very suspicious. If there are situations / scenarios that make you nervous, or uncomfortable just don’t go there.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Police scanners are digital and encrypted these days so you can't listen in anymore. With enough effort, I'm sure someone can crack that encryption though. If you're going to the trouble of decrypting emergency broadcasts, then you should just stay home because your own shadow might scare you.

It’s not listening. It’s watching a thread /feed of words. Ie. queen and Shaw -police on site- domestic Bathurst and Queen-gunshots heard , yonge and shuter- car theft, suspects missing etc

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

So how do you get into the lobby in the first place without buzz code? If security sees you come in by following someone they might question you, or even ask you put down your name, I've had that. I think it's way better off to wait outside as if you're waiting for somebody, it's out of the security's jurisdiction.

Definitely had this happen at some buildings. They will ask me to put down my name and the room and sometimes have verified them and there if it’s correct

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

There's a professional way to be a John? Nobody tells me anything.

Well you’re either a John deer or a John Doe

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Back in the day, their rising arm barrier on the exit side had a loophole: the gap was large enough to allow a sedan to squeeze through, so I never paid for parking on numerous occasions, I go there less these days but dunno if they had me on file, that's why I get nervous seeing those parking enforcement assholes, and that's why I lift up the hood of that hoodie when I enter the parking lot in an attempt to cover up my face in front of that camera.

I don't wear sunglasses, hoodie and mask in the lobby, I'm not a moron, but you can definitely wear sunglasses and mask in the car as you enter the parking lot, it's my private space.

Oh god. So even your car screams “impaired”. I’ve seen idiots drive fast through thinking the arm will just bounce up in reflex only to zip out of the underground with a dented car broken mirror and windshield and all caught on the camera of the door. You ARE a moron. if you leave without paying parking I can only imagine how many times you’ve shortchanged anyone

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Made a list of restaurants near the Holiday Inn:

Milestones
Makimono Sushi Bar Restaurant
St Louis Bar & Grill
Perkins
Swiss Chalet
Subway
Quesada Burritos & Tacos
Harvey
Silver Chopsticks Pho Mi Viet Thai
Sushi-ya Japan

I highlighted the top 4: the first 2 are near Toronto Congress Centre, 3rd one is in the plaza on the opposite side of Holiday Inn, 4th one is inside Holiday Inn, I believe these 4 can be used as excuses that justify me being be in the area. The rest are either fast food or things I don't normally eat.

The word normal has a different connotation for you my friend. Whomever you're attempting to give an excuse /lie to - doesn't believe you, if your rationale is communicated in an way like it is in this thread lol

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

I've been at that location a few times. It really is a bad hotel for clients wishing to blend in.

If I was stopped by a friend or family member, there is zero reason why I should be there. No restaurant, no starbucks, no coffee shop. I know that if I ran in to a male friend, chances are he is there for the same reason. But, I still want to say that popped in for a coffee or meeting someone at the bar. In my head, I can sell that.

Secondly, the exits which are closer to the rooms is great for a quick departure; however, one must navigate that large parking lot to enter the lobby. Again, odd to not park near the entrance.

It is a looooong walk from the lobby to the room, passing staff who know why you are here and others who may include the odd client.

The place has the vibes of a sleazy hotel.

Honestly, I stopped seeing ladies who hosted from this location.

Best place IMHO is Sandman. The hotel is off the main strip with access from the rear right, close to the elevators with limited view of the front desk desk. Walk in with a coffee and head to the elevators.

The hotel and a restaurant share the lot. Easy explanation should one crosses paths with a friend/family/colleague.

Btw, I've seen a lady and the met up with the boys at the bar.

Hope the agencies are reading this...

Same with delta airport or maybe it’s Hilton airport which is across from a conference centre and has two or three restaurants inside Open late. Near the highway and has meeting rooms.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Because your ways are dangerous and amateurish...I ran into my colleague in a hotel 500 km from my home in Ottawa during Winterlude.

What if a cop questions you? You're meeting a work colleague from out of town, give me a name, let's see if the guy is a hotel guest. What name do you give? Amber aka Jessica Rabbit? You would have blown your cover right there. And you're sitting the lobby reading Terb FFS...any cop would look at your phone and immediately figure out you are a john. You're way better off saying you're trying out Perkins.

Sitting in a condo lobby 80 km away from your home when you don't know anybody in that building, you cannot even talk yourself out of this one. If I were you, I would get the fuck out of there ASAP, in case of a police raid, you won't get picked up.

Again, if you aren’t drawing attention. You do have some amount of rights and freedoms (to remain silent ?).
what’re the chance you and the colleague were both there for a work related conference ? lol same department ? Maybe he Lives there ? I mean I’ve seen a childhood friend driving on the 401 heading east- a major major rare likelihood but it can happen.

 

[Disgruntled Goat]

Because your ways are dangerous and amateurish...I ran into my colleague in a hotel 500 km from my home in Ottawa during Winterlude.

I said "at an incall", not "during a big national touristy celebration".

What if a cop questions you? You're meeting a work colleague from out of town, give me a name, let's see if the guy is a hotel guest. What name do you give? Amber aka Jessica Rabbit? You would have blown your cover right there. And you're sitting the lobby reading Terb FFS...any cop would look at your phone and immediately figure out you are a john. You're way better off saying you're trying out Perkins.

You tell the cop politely that it's none of their business where you're going or what you look at on your phone. They can't do shit. They may try to intimidate you, but if you don't know the law or know your rights, then you deserve to fall victim to their bullshit.

Sitting in a condo lobby 80 km away from your home when you don't know anybody in that building, you cannot even talk yourself out of this one. If I were you, I would get the fuck out of there ASAP, in case of a police raid, you won't get picked up.

See above. It's even easier to tell the cops to fuck off in a condo where you got buzzed in. If you were me you wouldn't be this ignorant, but you're not so you are.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

You tell the cop that your wife kicked you out for cheating which you never did so now, you found a sugar momi to really cheat.
IF that is a problem for him (cop) , tell him you are at loss, and you cannot give him your copy of a bible.

He will ask to come up to the hotel room which has a spare copy