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roddermac

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All you have tried to do is deflect, deflect, deflect from the Abortions that this thread is all about in the first place.
Then you bring a comparison that banning abortion is equivalent with a vaccine mandate. We know that abortions from any type be it rape, incest etc. is considered a crime in some of the states with as much as a life term in jail. Vaccine mandates means that you can still make your choice not to have it administered. Now you come up with the most retarded argument about vaccines based on CONSPIRACY THEORIES. You must be living in a shell if you do not think that other medications and vaccines do not have side effects for some patients. But the vast majority benefited with these vaccines. I know this from first hand!!
No I said that if abortion is a women's right to her body then why couldn't the same be said for the vaccines. People who refused the covid jab were vilified and lost their jobs. Show me a women who lost their job for getting an abortion. And the vast majority didn't benefit from the vaccines. Most regret taking it.
 
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No I said that if abortion is a women's right to her body then why couldn't the same be said for the vaccines. People who refused the covid jab were vilified and lost their jobs. Show me a women who lost their job for getting an abortion. And the vast majority didn't benefit from the vaccines. Most regret taking it.
Ohhh dear, we know that people who had abortions due to even their own life being compromised were criminally charged, that is far worse than just "losing a job":


But obviously, those selfish anti-vaxxers, did not give a crap about vulnerable seniors or those whose health was compromised and had to be protected from the virus spreading to them!!
I do not know where you get the notion that the vast majority did not benefit from the vaccines. Again keep on believing the Conspiracy Theorists!!
 
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And there is no such thing as anti-vaxxers either. They just call us that because we refused one vaccine. Should Canada allow late term abortions if there is no medical reason to.
Can you point out anyone who is calling for all pregnancies to be aborted?

Canadian law allows the choice; no one is forced to have an abortion (maybe other than medical emergencies).
 

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Constitutions, like laws, can change over time. Just look at how much the first amendment has been bastardized since it was written.

So today they wrote something into the constitution...tomorrow someone will make changes to it.
Good to see you understand how it works. But to take it to the logical next step, reversing France's constitutional change is much more challenging than simply passing a new law.

And by 'bastardizing" do you just mean people you disagree with are still allowed to talk?
 

basketcase

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Do you mean we live in a democracy that says unless people agree with you then they are wrong and should be bullied for their opinions?
As usual, the version of free speech that means people don't have the freedom to criticize your views.
 
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basketcase

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So you honestly these vaccines were safe and effective ...
Yes. Reduced mortality, reduced infection rates, reduced serious outcomes, extremely low rates of serious negative impacts.

You're truely ignorance is on display with this comment. Being skeptical of something doesn't make one a conspiracy theorists....
Ignoring all the refutations and just moving to the next talking point does.

You're not sceptical about anything. You've decided that vaccines are bad and are just desperately seeking something that you can construe a supporting you.
 

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No I said that if abortion is a women's right to her body then why couldn't the same be said for the vaccines. People who refused the covid jab were vilified and lost their jobs. Show me a women who lost their job for getting an abortion. And the vast majority didn't benefit from the vaccines. Most regret taking it.
No one was forced to be vaccinated. You had the choice but in the real world, all choices have consequences.

And yes, people who promoted anti-science reasons should be vilified.
 
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roddermac

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No one was forced to be vaccinated. You had the choice but in the real world, all choices have consequences.

And yes, people who promoted anti-science reasons should be vilified.
So should women who get abortions have consequences too. People were forced to be vaccinated or lose their job. Some weren't even allowed to get groceries. How can you seriously justify this bullshit after all that has come out.
 
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Yes. Reduced mortality, reduced infection rates, reduced serious outcomes, extremely low rates of serious negative impacts.


Ignoring all the refutations and just moving to the next talking point does.

You're not sceptical about anything. You've decided that vaccines are bad and are just desperately seeking something that you can construe a supporting you.
Really when did I say that vaccines are bad. Reduced mortality rates. The virus has a very high survival rate as said from the experts right at the beginning. In fact I know vaccinated people who died from covid. Reduced serious outcomes. Don't know any unvaccinated people that ended up in hospital from covid. Most told me it was a minor cold. Let me ask you. Do you anyone who very sick after taking the vaccine cause I do. You see you want to believe that I get my info form some nutty forum but in reality I get it from every day life speaking to people. Let me ask you. Do you know who this man was.
 
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roddermac

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Can you point out anyone who is calling for all pregnancies to be aborted?

Canadian law allows the choice; no one is forced to have an abortion (maybe other than medical emergencies).
If you read any of my comments on the matter. I clearly stated many were not given the choice to not take the covid jab. They were forced to or lose their jobs and be outcasted from society.
 

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You know that you were wrong.

I clearly indicated which states totally banned abortions. Of course you try to make excuses as that is part of your dogma!!

For once do the research for yourself. Here you go:

That's my point...regardless of a ban, if the mother's life is at risk, then whatever ban is in place doesn't matter.
I asked you to show me if you have proof that says otherwise.
You just said I'm wrong and showed the status of abortion laws in various states. That's is not proof of what I'm saying or not.
Care to try again?
 

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Are you arguing that the majority of people are 'useless' just because they think your views are stupid?
Are you saying that no matter what the majority of people think about something, that the rest must conform or be ridiculed in your bastardized version of democracy?
 
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Good to see you understand how it works. But to take it to the logical next step, reversing France's constitutional change is much more challenging than simply passing a new law.

And by 'bastardizing" do you just mean people you disagree with are still allowed to talk?
Why would it be much more challenging? It was just changed. Can it not change again? Like ever?
 

Not getting younger

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Are you saying that no matter what the majority of people think about something, that the rest must conform or be ridiculed in your bastardized version of democracy?
Skoob, is your head so deep in the sand you don’t know it’s 2024 and liberals won the culture wars? One rule for thee PeePee Rump and DoFo but not me.

Me, while there are aspects I have misgivings about. In a perverse way I look forward to the day Trump, Ford and PP have massive “majorities”.

It’s them it’s them it’s them, it’s the far right Nazis, and dumb red necks.
 
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Not getting younger

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I wonder what the demographics will look like in 2050? 🤣
who the fuck knows. No one here can predict next week, nor look beyond the end of their noses ( some any ways).

Just glad I’ll be worm food by then. If this micro snap shot of the electorate is any indication I weep for my children.
 
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