France becomes world’s first country to enshrine abortion rights in constitution

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I am asking whether a woman has a right to choose if you do not share that view. Not too complicated a it flows directly from my original question. Should be a yes or no.
Excuse me for the interjection of an answer. Isn't it true that a
woman already has the right to choose? Abortion has been legal
in France for some time.
 
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They're new PM is pro family and wants Italians to start having more children.
France are the real winners. For once women can take control of their own bodies and not have politicians decide based on their beliefs!!
 
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It's not about it being a woman's own body in the context of this specific scenario...it's about making a decision to abort based on testing that is not conclusive. It would be a different story if it was conclusive, but at this time it's not. So there is a risk of taking a chance and potentially making the wrong decision if the intent was to have a child in the first place.
Once again it is up to the woman and her doctor to decide on whether she needs to have an abortion or not. Not up to politicians when they even consider women who were raped and then decide to have an abortion are then considered to be criminals. They have to go out of state based for abortions on some retarded Republicans Anti-abortion State Laws!!
 
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France are the real winners. For once women can take control of their own bodies and not have politicians decide based on their beliefs!!
But the people of France and most of the world were forced to take a vaccine they didn't trust. Is that not politicians deciding for them based on their false beliefs.
 
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Excuse me for the interjection of an answer. Isn't it true that a
woman already has the right to choose? Abortion has been legal
in France for some time.
It's been legal for some time in most of the Western world. Now they want to the right to have one when it's an actual baby and not just a fetus.
 

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But the people of France and most of the world were forced to take a vaccine they didn't trust. Is that not politicians deciding for them based on their false beliefs.
It is a different scenario. This was for the protection of the most vulnerable ones, as these vaccine deniers were in danger of spreading the virus to them.
But they did not have to take the vaccine if they were not going to restaurants, movie theatres, shops, groceries and other public places including the trains and buses. After all this is the reason why Covid was eventually brought under control. But once again the abortion is totally a woman's and her doctors choice!!
 
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France was already dying with mass immigration, this will just put the nail in its coffin.
 

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Isn't this the case for women in Canada and most of
the west as well?
Why is Women's Rights to Abortion actually written in the Canadian Constitution? All that has occurred in 1988 the Abortion Law was struck down as being unconstitutional as it infringed on women's right to Life, Liberty and Security as a Person!!
 

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Why is Women's Rights to Abortion actually written in the Canadian Constitution? All that has occurred in 1988 the Abortion Law was struck down as being unconstitutional as it infringed on women's right to Life, Liberty and Security as a Person!!

I am not sure if you meant to say 'isn't' in lieu of 'is' in the
1st sentence.

No big deal if it isn't in the constitution. Women do have the
right to choose to have abortion.
 

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It's been legal for some time in most of the Western world. Now they want to the right to have one when it's an actual baby and not just a fetus.
I now have a feeling that the right to abort an unborn at any
stage of pregnancy, if granted by law, might still not fully
satisfy pro-abortionists unless it is enshrined in the constitution.
 
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Once again it is up to the woman and her doctor to decide on whether she needs to have an abortion or not. Not up to politicians when they even consider women who were raped and then decide to have an abortion are then considered to be criminals. They have to go out of state based for abortions on some retarded Republicans Anti-abortion State Laws!!
Well we can cherry pick specific scenarios to justify things but that's not the point here. The point here is when is a person a person? That is the crux of the entire debate for years. Whether it's a woman's right to her own body, the issue has always been the fine line between a fetus and a person.
Every situation is different.
 

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It is a different scenario. This was for the protection of the most vulnerable ones, as these vaccine deniers were in danger of spreading the virus to them.
But they did not have to take the vaccine if they were not going to restaurants, movie theatres, shops, groceries and other public places including the trains and buses. After all this is the reason why Covid was eventually brought under control. But once again the abortion is totally a woman's and her doctors choice!!
For the millionth time. They've admitted that the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid or transmitting it to someone else. They also admitted that young people didn't need it and that the lock downs were pointless. You were more likely to get and spread covid if you were vaccinated then not. Either way my body my choice. You can't have it one way for some and the other way for others.
 
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For the millionth time. They've admitted that the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid or transmitting it to someone else. They also admitted that young people didn't need it and that the lock downs were pointless. You were more likely to get and spread covid if you were vaccinated then not. Either way my body my choice. You can't have it one way for some and the other way for others.
The vaccine lessens the severity and chances you get it.
It lessens the risk of long covid, which is now a massive problem, along with other issues they are finding, including its links to cognitive issues and diabetes.
 
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The vaccine lessens the severity and chances you get it.
It lessens the risk of long covid, which is now a massive problem, along with other issues they are finding, including its links to cognitive issues and diabetes.
It's still a choice. If It's the wrong choice. I only harm myself. And a vaccine is suppose provide immunity not lessen symptoms
 
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