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I'm still trying to figure out how a cow's fart is killing our planet. There was a time when dinosaurs romed the earth and the planet was much warmer yet there farts didn't melt the planet down and an ice age came after that. Methane gas is released whenever a living organism dies and decomposes so won't people dying off in record numbers be worse for the planet then us living off of it.
I agree - that is what they teach at school. Its all a natural cycle and we humans have the audacity to think we re responsible and we can also fix it. I think we just gotta get used to living with it.
 

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skoob, the scientists are right and you are wrong.
You are failing, not them.

These are just averages. The fun bit is when summer time in texas is 10-20 degrees c hotter than normal. And then Toronto - which usually sees many many days at -20 in February - is having days at 12 degrees and more. No headlines saying we are 32c warmer than normal! But yet thats the reality. My kids are going to school with jeans and running shoes. No snowpants and boots!
 
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I agree - that is what they teach at school. Its all a natural cycle and we humans have the audacity to think we re responsible and we can also fix it. I think we just gotta get used to living with it.
Innovations not restrictions will fix some of these problems. The world is not perfect and never will be. Net zero is a myth.
 

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More distraction.
You tried to peddle misleading info about forest fires and I proved you wrong. now you distract to something else.
You failed.
Stop misleading people and move on. No one takes you seriously anymore.
You can't discuss the facts or evidence, skoob.
The planet hit 1.5ºC last year and you think nothing is happening.

You must hate your kids, though I can't imagine you breeding.

You have been wrong on every point in this debate and have zero evidence to back up your denial of science and climate change.
 

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Funny how deforestation is never mentioned as a major cause to climate change. Can't piss off the developers creating urban sprawl and traffic jams.
More accurately can’t piss of voters that want want want, convenience, the fast life and 12 lane highways, and bright lights and massive convenient one stop strip malls, with parking lots the size of 20 football fields. Who also have the stones to tell others to live greener…from their glass houses and towers.

paving paradise for parking lots.
Forest for the trees.

Some who think APP is some kind of crown jewel, have never been off highway 60 ( the big green area) or much further into actual wilderness and what’s out of sight from weekend warriors. Never mind even further away.


Some who profess to be oh so in tune with nature should also do some research on cold water streams ( there’s cold water and warm water) and what happens when more than just trees that not only convert C into O, provide shade and homes for all kinds of things in the food chain, are razed for their convenience. they are called riparian zones. And what happens to all kinds of things both in the water and out of the water, when those streams get above 68c ( and O2 goes poof) or 72c ( and they become lethal suffocating all kinds of things) at the bottom of the food chain and life sustaining drinkable water chain.

Or when road salt/fertilizers/phospherous and more enters them and the Great Lakes or the Kawarthas, Muskokas and more……….after rainfalls, or in the spring when things called snow packs melt.

I’ll also bet real money many warriors have never gotten a finger nail dirty or bloody or stepped into a sinkhole and underground spring from an aquafier and thought they were done for, :) doing what they can.
 

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More accurately can’t piss of voters that want want want, convenience, the fast life and 12 lane highways, and bright lights and massive convenient one stop strip malls, with parking lots the size of 20 football fields. Who also have the stones to tell others to live greener…from their glass houses and towers.

paving paradise for parking lots.
Forest for the trees.

Some who think APP is some kind of crown jewel, have never been off highway 60 ( the big green area) or much further into actual wilderness and what’s out of sight from weekend warriors. Never mind even further away.


Some who profess to be oh so in tune with nature should also do some research on cold water streams ( there’s cold water and warm water) and what happens when more than just trees that not only convert C into O, provide shade and homes for all kinds of things in the food chain, are razed for their convenience. they are called riparian zones. And what happens to all kinds of things both in the water and out of the water, when those streams get above 68c ( and O2 goes poof) or 72c ( and they become lethal suffocating all kinds of things) at the bottom of the food chain and life sustaining drinkable water chain.

Or when road salt/fertilizers/phospherous and more enters them and the Great Lakes or the Kawarthas, Muskokas and more……….after rainfalls, or in the spring when things called snow packs melt.

I’ll also bet real money many warriors have never gotten a finger nail dirty or bloody or stepped into a sinkhole and underground spring from an aquafier and thought they were done for, :) doing what they can.
Are you talking about the Greenbelt area that DoFo is trying to turn into housing?
 

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Are you talking about the Greenbelt area that DoFo is trying to turn into housing?
Distraction. Blatant distraction from
A) your lack of basic knowledge and fundamentals about nature and riparian zones or forest fires.

B) basic grasp of understanding carrying capacity
Eg. When you plow a field for your convience what happens to the moles, and rabbits others need for food. Never mind insects that do this or that or what feeds on them you’ve starved, or simply pollinate, never mind cold water streams

C) you being nothing more than a weekend, keyboard warrior in a glass house that would get terrified and lost in a huge mall, never mind true wildness far north of you.

D) from what’s all around you, under you, north of you, and down hill south of you, as far west as the Niagara escarpment and to the East the Ganaraska.( bets real $$ you’ve heard of the Ganaraska River, forest, or the logging there to)

E) forest for the 🌴

F) what water temperature brook trout and more to suffocate at in July. Because trees and riparian zones are gone in favour of parking lots.

G) say for example too blue green algae, it’s causes what water temperatures and how many dogs it kills every summer in lakes you think are playgrounds too.

H) or fertilizers and more shit than run downhill into cottage playground lakes, streams and great lakes
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Or road salt because you don’t know how to drive, or walk to your front door.

Shame Google exist because I know your never dirtied
/cracked and bloodied fingernail that’s never done a thing or what you can. You wouldn’t know the answer without it. You have massive cahonnes to tell others to live greener or chirp at Ford when….
 
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Distraction. Blatant distraction from
A) your lack of basic knowledge and fundamentals about nature and riparian zones or forest fires.

B) basic grasp of understanding carrying capacity
Eg. When you plow a field for your convience what happens to the moles, and rabbits others need for food. Never mind insects that do this or that or simply pollinate, never mind cold water streams

C) you being nothing more than a weekend, keyboard warrior in a glass house that would get terrified and lost in a huge mall, never mind true wildness far north of you.

D) from what’s all around you, under you, north of you, and down hill south of you, as far west as the Niagara escarpment and to the East the Ganaraska.( bets real $$ you’ve heard of the Ganaraska River, forest, or the logging there to)

E) forest for the 🌴

F) what water temperature brook trout and more to suffocate at in July.

G) say for example too blue green algae, it’s causes what water temperatures and how many dogs it kills every summer in lakes you think are playgrounds too.

Shame Google exist because I know your never dirtied fingernail wouldn’t know the answer without it.
I love that you post about carrying capacity but its about moles.

Your ignorance is pretty entertaining.
For instance, you post this as if I haven't been posting about the 6th great extinction, aka the Holocene Extinction and as if its not related to climate change, end state capitalism and conservative policies.

Its all related, fix capitalism/feudalism so you can do something about climate change and try to slow the 6th great extinction as well.
 

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More distractions and deflections from oh so much.

Mr I’m nothing but a weekend/keyboard warrior that tries to tell others how to live greener, but has never cracked a fingernail for the environment, never mind looked in a mirror and his glass house. And the literal cesspool you are creating. Nor how vitally important it is.

that doesn’t grasp carrying capacity. Lmao
obviously you have no clue that moles like insects are part of the environment and ecosystem. Moles provides benefits, and are low on the food chain. For things like foxes and hawks. Or that foxes like clean water to drink to. So do rabbits and bambis. Obviously you’ve never been in a field and seen a fox mousing. What happens to foxes when the moles in those fields and riparian zones are gone……..

Your idea of a wilderness experience is a concrete Jungle….ooops, never mind, you don’t even know about gangs and the ghetto south of Yorkdale mall and it’s 50 field parking lot, is called the Jungle.

You’re a funny joke Mr SJW, that’s never been out of his basement. Never mind oh so much. Like what’s all around you. Litterally.

tell us what the actual name is for substrate under a stream. Let’s call it the Humber which is no longer a cold water stream. Look plenty solid but when you step on it, your on your way to China. Nor would you know that not all that long Salmon swam in all those rivers, from East to West by the tens of thousands… Today they are stocked.

Lol you and your moral outrage make me laugh. Go get your finger nails manicured Frank. That is if you can handle the sun someday.
 
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More distractions and deflections from oh so much.

Mr I’m nothing but a weekend/keyboard warrior that tries to tell others how to live greener, but has never cracked a fingernail for the environment, never mind looked in a mirror and his glass house. And the literal cesspool you are creating.

that doesn’t grasp carrying.
obviously you have no clue that moles like insects are part of the environment and ecosystem. Moles provides benefits, and are low on the food chain. For things like foxes and hawks. Or that foxes like clean water to drink to. So do rabbits and bambis. Obviously you’ve never been in a field and seen a fox mousing. What happens to foxes when the moles in those fields are gone……..

Your idea of a wilderness experience is a concrete Jungle….ooops, never mind, you don’t even know about gangs and the ghetto south of Yorkdale mall and it’s 50 field parking lot, is called the Jungle.

You’re a funny joke Mr SJW.

tell us what the actual name is for substrate under a stream. Let’s call it the Humber. Look plenty solid but when you step on it, your on your way to China.
You write as if you are discovering something for the first time that's been repeatedly posted and discussed here.
Start from here:

Then try to link that to industrialization/end state capitalism and climate change.
 

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You write as if you are discovering something for the first time that's been repeatedly posted and discussed here.
Start from here:

Then try to link that to industrialization/end state capitalism and climate change.
try to keep up Mr SJW that knows shit about nature or the environment, except how to piss and shit in it. Litterally…..nor carrying capacity, riparian zones or forest fires. and points his keyboard callused finger tip at others… and has the balls to tell others how to live, while throwing stones from his seriously thin glass outhouse. Given everything from grass, insects, moles foxes hawks, rabbits and trees ( which do what with Co2 are used for everything….just like fossil) , and us, need it to live.

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And stop deflecting.
 
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try to keep up Mr SJW that knows shit about nature or the environment, except how to piss and shit in it. Litterally…..nor carrying capacity, riparian zones or forest fires. and points his keyboard callused finger tip at others… and has the balls to tell others how to live, while throwing stones from his seriously thin glass outhouse. Given everything from grass, insects, moles foxes hawks, rabbits and trees ( which do what with Co2 are used for everything….just like fossil) , and us, need it to live.

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And stop deflecting.
So you are totally unaware of the 6th Great Extinction yet did think you're personal observations were somehow revelatory.
Not at all surprising.

Now that we've gotten that far, do you see any correlation between your personal reflections on decline in insects, wildlife and water tables with this new subject, the Holocen?
 

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So you are totally unaware of the 6th Great Extinction yet did think you're personal observations were somehow revelatory.
Not at all surprising.

Now that we've gotten that far, do you see any correlation between your personal reflections on decline in insects, wildlife and water tables with this new subject, the Holocen?
Why does climate change scare you so much?
 
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You do know the sun gets hotter as well. Are humans responsible for that too. So what is happening with a planet that's 1.5 degrees warmer
1 - sure, on a time scale of billions of years
2 - stupid question
3 - start here:

Then we can discuss each change.
 

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Do you know what the call ice at 1.5 degrees C?
Antarctica contains 90% of the planets ice and 70% of the worlds fresh water

The Antarctic ice sheet is a continental glacier covering 98% of the Antarctic continent, with an area of 14 million square kilometres (5.4 million square miles) and an average thickness of over 2 kilometres (1.2 mi).

it is essentially frozen 99.9% of the time

Antarctica is the coldest continent on Earth. The average temperature in the interior throughout the year is about -57°C, with the minimum temperature being -90°C during the winter season. Although the coast is warmer and temperatures can reach a maximum of between -2°C and 8°C during the summer.

So no, a 0.01 % change in atmospheric composition is not going to cause catastrophic seal level rise

just another in a long line of scaremongering propaganda lies alarmists use
polar bear extinction
ocean acidification
coral bleaching
droughts / floods
wild fires
more / less snow
extreme weather events
global boiling
crop failure

all broken hockey sticks

the con has not worked
 
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