So then toguy should be disbarred by now. Fellow lawyers and judges don't like lawyers who don't know the law.
Trump's lawyers, incompetent though they seem, apparently have found ways to work and derail the system.
Trump gets a $355 million kick to the crotch, will he pay up?
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Trump's lawyers, incompetent though they seem, apparently have found ways to work and derail the system.
lol. Add real estate to your areas of expertise. The degree to which you and your friends are prepared to overlook fraud is quite astounding. You should volunteer for the Innocence Project and try and free all the people in jail for doing the same thing but who are not former presidents.
Are you suggesting that giving immunity to a witness is unusual? If so you know nothing about the criminal justice system.
I personally think Engoron and Laticia James are totally useless. I'm also hoping that Fani Willis and Nathan Wade will be kicked off the Georgia case tomorrow.Notty, you think the judge and prosecutor might know a wee bit more law than you do?
That is the way trials work. Each side presents experts and evidence and the judge and/jury decides which evidence to prefer. And that is why there is an appeal process. Time will tell.
but the amazing thing to me is that you and your friend think that just because he professes his innince he is. Gave you ever seen a trial in which the defendant hasn’t. Why are you complaining about the millions of people in jail who have proffessed their innocence and have been convicted.
not ver difficult to understand. Borrowers are risk rated based upon financial statements etc. rates are then assessed base upon the risk profile. Every credit application has words to the effect that the statement is given intending it be be relied upon by the lender. It is fraud to misstate one’s assets and lliabiitiries.
I'm complaining that if this was any other person than trump this trial wouldn't have come to fruition, in the first place. 1. Laticia James ran her campaign on getting Trump. 2. Engoron made up his mind that Trump was guilty in a summary judgment, before any evidence was even presented. 3. Engoron totally ignored the statute of limitations. 4. According to Kevin O'Leary real estate developers do what Trump did everyday. 5. There were no victims. 6 Deutsche Bank got paid on time, and would do business with Trump again. 7. This trial was based on a archaic consumer law, where a jury wasn't allowed.
8. If Trump wasn't running for president, then Trump would have been left alone. 9. The $500 million fine was extremely excessive, for what Trump allegedly did wrong, if anything??
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Well Deutsche Bank believed Trump. I'm sure Deutsche Bank had a team of professionals looking over Trump's financial statements etc Nobody put a gun to deutsche Bank's head, and told them to lend Trump money!! It was obvious that Laticia James was just looking for an obscure crime to charge Trump with, and luckily for James she got a stooge Dem judge Engoron, to go along with James" nonsense!!
You are really missing the point. In any event do you believe it is OK to lie on a credit application. that is a yes or no. And I don't care if you think that everyone does it. is it OK?
You should tell that to all the people in jail for similar types of fraud. I agree that the amount was very large and I do think it may be reduced on appeal. but i do not believe that the verdict itself will be set aside or that the fraud itself did not occur.. time will tell.
Well then the only thing you are really complaining about is the size of the judgement and in this regard as I have said previously I do believe the amount may be reduced.
Hopefully, Trump will be able to come up with the money to appeal this "shockingly" high amount. What Engoron did was to contribute to "election interference." The Dems are terrified of a fair fight between Trump and Biden. The Dems realize that Biden is a very weak candidate!! Therefore, the Dems won't let Trump campaign properly, because of all these dumb indictments, that they charged Trump with!!
Mitchy, did the guy lie routinely on his credit applications or not?....
It's fraud. Move on.
I don't think Trump lied on his credit applications, or else Deutsche Bank wouldn't have done business with Trump, in the first place!! It's not NY state's responsibility to decide if Deutsche Bank should have got a higher interest rate, or not!!
Here's the thing, Mitch.
Trump has gone down big on 2 civil judgments already. Would he have been investigated and sued if he were not an annoying public figure?..... Maybe not.
But the fact is that he was found liable for the wrongs he was sued for. The lawsuits may have been politically motivated, but they were solid and were proven in court. Trump should have kept out of high profile public life if he had dozens of skeletons in his closet.
And he fucked up both trials beyond fucking belief. So the trial proved that he was a dirty candidate who was also an idiot who couldn't think straight when in a conflict situation. The lawsuits actually do the public a service by demonstrating what a pathetic, incompetent moron Trump is.
