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What happens to the MAGA cult when dumb Donald is gone?

Leimonis

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Michigan just proved that Genocide Joe won't win.
What happens to the dems now?
Can they get rid of him in time?
And what happens to your terrorist friends when trump wins?
 

rhuarc29

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As MAGA continues to purge the party of anyone not loyal to their orange god-king, the party shrinks to only cult members. MAGA is not driven by ideology or even principles, it's a cult of personality driven by rage, anger and hatred. In most cases MAGA isn't even concerned with governing, just maintaining and gaining power.

So what happens anytime a cult leader dies, will it splint or create it's own party. One thing is for sure, MAGA/Trump supporters will want someone also in the mode of dumb Donald. Someone who can play upon their perceived grievances and anger with a touch of charisma.

Everybody should know the old GOP is dead, it's not Reagan's party anymore. It's a party driven by the right-wing media industry, who preach a diet of lies, propaganda, fear and hatred.
I think you have misinterpreted things. MAGA actually is ideologically driven. There was a lot of angst against the status quo coming off the Obama years and Trump simply took advantage of that and funneled it into MAGA. Trump has a lot of faults, but it was a brilliant maneuver on his part to exploit that angst, and no one saw it coming. It's why he has the Christian vote even though he's not exactly an avid Christian (they call him a baby Christian). You can call them "perceived grievances" if you want, but that's just because you're partisan. Those grievances were widespread enough to get Trump elected for four years. Christians have been demonized for decades, and their values have been mostly ignored by establishment Republicans, and opposed by Democrats. It's not surprising that they would turn to Trump when he's the first one in awhile to legitimately listen to them.

You're right in that Trump has become a cult leader. I think that legitimate angst has warped into a rabid cult, and Trump was the one who curated it. It's some scary shit. But it's also not the only cult. MAGA and Progressives...both cult-like. You see it in the fervor of the supporters. Driven by social media and propagandist machines. We live in troubling times....
 

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I think you have misinterpreted things. MAGA actually is ideologically driven. There was a lot of angst against the status quo coming off the Obama years and Trump simply took advantage of that and funneled it into MAGA. Trump has a lot of faults, but it was a brilliant maneuver on his part to exploit that angst, and no one saw it coming. It's why he has the Christian vote even though he's not exactly an avid Christian (they call him a baby Christian). You can call them "perceived grievances" if you want, but that's just because you're partisan. Those grievances were widespread enough to get Trump elected for four years. Christians have been demonized for decades, and their values have been mostly ignored by establishment Republicans, and opposed by Democrats. It's not surprising that they would turn to Trump when he's the first one in awhile to legitimately listen to them.

You're right in that Trump has become a cult leader. I think that legitimate angst has warped into a rabid cult, and Trump was the one who curated it. It's some scary shit. But it's also not the only cult. MAGA and Progressives...both cult-like. You see it in the fervor of the supporters. Driven by social media and propagandist machines. We live in troubling times....
The only ideology is to follow whatever their fearless leader wakes up and believes on any particular day. Not really more complicated than that.
 

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I think you have misinterpreted things. MAGA actually is ideologically driven. There was a lot of angst against the status quo coming off the Obama years and Trump simply took advantage of that and funneled it into MAGA. Trump has a lot of faults, but it was a brilliant maneuver on his part to exploit that angst, and no one saw it coming. It's why he has the Christian vote even though he's not exactly an avid Christian (they call him a baby Christian). You can call them "perceived grievances" if you want, but that's just because you're partisan. Those grievances were widespread enough to get Trump elected for four years. Christians have been demonized for decades, and their values have been mostly ignored by establishment Republicans, and opposed by Democrats. It's not surprising that they would turn to Trump when he's the first one in awhile to legitimately listen to them.

You're right in that Trump has become a cult leader. I think that legitimate angst has warped into a rabid cult, and Trump was the one who curated it. It's some scary shit. But it's also not the only cult. MAGA and Progressives...both cult-like. You see it in the fervor of the supporters. Driven by social media and propagandist machines. We live in troubling times....
But the only ideology is 'trigger the libs'.
 

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And what happens to your terrorist friends when trump wins?
By this time next year, Israel will have carried out most of their mission towards eradicating Hamas from inside Gaza. A ceasefire may not be necessary or maybe moot as Hamas will have lost all military capabilities in Gaza .
Trump if elected will probably claim success for achieving a ceasefire though.
 
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By this time next year, Israel will have carried out most of their mission towards eradicating Hamas from inside Gaza. A ceasefire may not be necessary or maybe moot as Hamas will have lost all military capabilities in Gaza .
Trump if elected will probably claim success for achieving a ceasefire though.
By next year the genocide trial will be ongoing at the ICJ and sanctions will be hitting Israel, zionism will be hated globally.
 

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I could tell you either weren't too bright or just downright ignorant when you said that MAGA doesn't have an ideology.

Not sure if you know but MAGA stands for "Make America Great Again". This means putting America first, rather than sending taxpayer money to fight proxy wars overseas. It is in contrast to the democrats' globalist agenda.

Man I should be getting paid for this.

Now, off to see my favorite escort for a knobwash. Goodnight gentlemen.
MAGA is a slogan that has been used before. MAGA agenda is whatever Trump wants and he only thing Trump is putting first is himself and his cronies with his agenda of lies, graft, grift and standing up for Putin. Trump if POTUS again, and Michael Flynn could start a war with Iran and the MAGA cult would be all for it.

If you want talk about foreign wars, the last I remember the great Republican hero G. W. Bush started a wholly unnecessary war with Iraq. The GOP and right-wing media was all gung-ho for that DEBACLE, not democrats. Yeah, MAGA doesn't want foreign wars, because they keep talking about CIVIL WAR!
 

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Michigan just proved that Genocide Joe won't win.
What happens to the dems now?
Can they get rid of him in time?
You must be happy with the possibility of Trump winning. Michigan's anti-Israel crowd getting Trump elected is not much different than people who back Hamas and their perpetuation of violence.
 
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After Trump, there is a good possibility that the GOP will splinter, temporarily until they find a unifier.
Maybe. The Pretenders will squabble over Trump's legacy. De Santis, maybe Greg Abbott. A few others.

The GOP is now irrecoverably a populist party, not a conservative party.
 

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Maybe. The Pretenders will squabble over Trump's legacy. De Santis, maybe Greg Abbott. A few others.

The GOP is now irrecoverably a populist party, not a conservative party.
i would say a racist party. The maga cult as open up on their racism in the last few years but not totally. Maga is all about a white america. They are pissed that in just a few years latino and black will outnumber white.
 

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MAGA is a slogan that has been used before. MAGA agenda is whatever Trump wants and he only thing Trump is putting first is himself and his cronies with his agenda of lies, graft, grift and standing up for Putin. Trump if POTUS again, and Michael Flynn could start a war with Iran and the MAGA cult would be all for it.

If you want talk about foreign wars, the last I remember the great Republican hero G. W. Bush started a wholly unnecessary war with Iraq. The GOP and right-wing media was all gung-ho for that DEBACLE, not democrats. Yeah, MAGA doesn't want foreign wars, because they keep talking about CIVIL WAR!
MAGA stands for Make America Great Again.

Libtards don't seem to grasp that dictators knew wnot to mess with Trump and therefore didn't go after any territory while in office due to the fact that he would strike back 1000 times worse.

The USA/Biden Admin is now in a proxy war via Ukraine vs. Russia and Israel vs. Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran. This could potentially escalate us to World War 3 if China chooses to. Canada will then send troops to die before the USA enters last minute to end things like in WW1 and WW2.

Thankfully, Trump will win in November and if not, we are all screwed.
 

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Our former PM (conservative, Malcolm Turnbull) said Trump was like a little first year student fawning over putin like he was captain of the football team.
 
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You must be happy with the possibility of Trump winning. Michigan's anti-Israel crowd getting Trump elected is not much different than people who back Hamas and their perpetuation of violence.
Not at all.
What would have made me happy is if Biden supported international law and not genocide.

You can't vote to support genocide.
Never again.
I think you've heard that slogan before, though you are totally against it now.
 

mandrill

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MAGA stands for Make America Great Again.

Libtards don't seem to grasp that dictators knew wnot to mess with Trump and therefore didn't go after any territory while in office due to the fact that he would strike back 1000 times worse.

The USA/Biden Admin is now in a proxy war via Ukraine vs. Russia and Israel vs. Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran. This could potentially escalate us to World War 3 if China chooses to. Canada will then send troops to die before the USA enters last minute to end things like in WW1 and WW2.

Thankfully, Trump will win in November and if not, we are all screwed.
In actual fact, Trump sucked every dictator's dick so often and so good that they didn't want to piss him off in case he stopped doing CIMSW for them.
 
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rhuarc29

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The "angst" and "grievances" you are referring to, was really, racism, anti-immigrant racism, animosity towards cultural change, and fear of white dominance ending. None of these are actual legitimate grievances. These sentiments did not come out of the Obama era either, or because of it, they always existed. The 2008 recession, amplified it with the creation of the Tea Party, widespread hatred for corporations and media, coinciding with a black man coming to power.

Back then it was the white replacement theory, white flight, "terrorism", anti-LGBTQ attitudes because of religion, gun control etc., Today it is against "woke".

Meanwhile, "woke" is nothing more than marginalized folks, such as POCs, LGBTQ+, Women - people no longer willing to put up and shut up, voicing their opinions, engaging in activism and demanding change. And they have been hugely successful.

So between the two groups - the progressives and MAGA, only MAGA qualifies as a populist irrational cult, based purely on hatred. And sure enough, the ones who act as MAGA custodians and leaders, are all frauds, con men, assholes, creeps, low IQ morons with a twitter account, etc.,
I disagree. Many of their grievances have been mislabeled as racism, sexism, etc., as a way to dismiss their point of view and ridicule, rather than debate the merits.

Wanting to preserve American culture and Christian values is not racism. You may disagree with the stance that preserving American culture and Christian values is important (which is a fair argument to make), but accusing that stance of being racism is lazy.

Wanting to limit immigration to controlled, legal means is not racism. Unchecked illegal immigration is causing problems in cities all across America, with even Democrat mayors now speaking up about it. Whatever immigrants that are taken into a country should be able to be properly accommodated and assimilated into normal daily life of the host country, including employment. There should be a means to quickly make this transition with only temporary government assistance.

Being pro-life is not sexism. Even though I'm pro-choice myself, I understand that the abortion debate is tricky, with valid arguments on both sides. On one hand, you're actively preventing a life that otherwise would have come into being without the intervention. On the other, an unwanted pregnancy has a huge impact on the life of the parents, particularly the mother, and may pose a health risk to her as well.

Being against hormone therapy and more aggressive interventions (such a surgeries) for minors is a valid position to take, and shouldn't be labeled as transphobic. Research into the effects of these actions is highly politicized and therefore difficult to properly assess. But even research that suggests hormone therapy is reversible usually notes that it's not fully reversible, but merely that puberty will start up upon its absence. What limited research there is has shown that growth is impacted in individuals who delay puberty in this way. And we have very little research into what other impacts may have occurred when a human body is not allowed to go through puberty in a regular timeline.

I'm sorry, but both MAGA and progressives are largely irrational cults that spew hatred. Neither are particularly interested in discovering truth. The confirmation bias of both groups is extreme, and they won't listen to contrary arguments. They label, and skew, and deflect...whatever is necessary to project their own ideology. It's a sad state. The only saving grace is that the loudest, most extreme voices of each are a minority.
 
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