Court has ruled Emergencies Act during Trucker convoy was unconstitutional
- Thread starter Phil C. McNasty
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They' are going to appeal it because that's what they have to do, to make it look like the verdict was incorrect. How far into the courts I'm not sure.
Either way, they're most likely hoping it will take longer than when the next election happens.
or the lawyers and bean counters decide the lawsuits are cheaper to settle. And let’s not forget 65% of the public. Blame them.
Do you not understand that they track where they get the responses from?
Just by random sample alone you would expect 50-60 people who were Ottawa residents in a nationwide poll.
But you do know that they report all this, right?
The sample breakdown is in the poll.
Yes.
Exactly my point.
Insisting on a false precision in a single poll is just not worth it or useful because the swings just from interpretation of the data and the swings from time period to time period, that precision you think you got for that larger sample size is rendered moot.
Yes, and they put a link directly to the whole report from Agnus Reid and that document has a pdf of the breakdown. report from Agnus Reid
Yes.
These are polls from different time periods and asking different questions.
The first one from BayToday earlier this month has NO data about sample size or methodology, so I don't know how you can say the sample size should be bigger - you have no information what the sample size is.
The second is another agnus reid poll, three months after the crisis was resolved, and presents very interesting info about what people thought then. (Notice that the later BayStreet poll seems to show higher approval of the government invoking emergency powers). Again, Agnus Reid gives you LOTS of detail about the poll and how it was done.
The third is from Nanos, also from Feb 2024 and it seems to show us something similar to BayToday in results - more support than Agnus Reid found immediately after. You get some description of the methodology, but again not nearly as much as you get with Agnus Reid.
Because it isn't really correct.
In that poll (same as the "Go Home" poll), 65% of Canadians thought Trudeau made the protest situation worse.
That's not the same as blaming him for it.
Since the poll was conducted before the invocation of the Emergency Act, it has nothing to say about that particular issue.
It's also important to remember that even if that Angus Reid poll from Feb 2022 said that 65% of Canadians blamed Trudeau, that wouldn't tell you much about what people think now.
You can interpret that the terrible polls show you most people blame him, but that's just an inference.
Angus
Ok so we can agree to disagree.
btw the Angus Reid poll uses their own forum of participants. In essence a closed group of potential respondents. Too confining in my opinion. Many of the large polling companies use similar closed forum members.
It's not as holistic as people think especially when surveying and reporting on millions of people in a country.
What fun, you made another ridiculous claim about polls that you'll be defending for the next couple of weeks.
Yes. Defending my opinion is something I like to do especially when it's over a matter of opinion. Is that not what everyone does? I mean your list is very long is it not?
Wrong about my opinion for an issue that does not have a right or wrong answer?
Nothing wrong with the poll metrics I based my opinion on.
Explain how someone can be wrong about something that does not have a right or wrong answer?
In the polling methodology. Many ways to do it. Nothing wrong with what I suggested.
Try and keep up.
I would suggest that’s splitting hairs and semantics.
If you throw gas on a fire.
Have you made it worse and can I blame you for making it worse?
A well known issue.
Which is why they have weighting.
Which is why worrying over margin of error is a waste of time when the weighting assumptions are a much more significant error issue.
You can blame whomever for whatever.
I am pointing out what the poll actually found.
