That's right, it's owned by a private company. They aren't going to waste money making the switch from paying on the Ontario government owned section to being free.
No More Toll Roads in Ontario
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You're not even in the same arena and your response in itself is a deflection.
Care to elaborate or have you reached the max of your competence?
Once again the 407 is NOT A PRIVATE COMPANY. It is solely owned by the Province of Ontario. The 407 ETR is also owned by the Province of Ontario, but leased on a 99 year deal to the 407 ETR Board that now has the CPP as the major shareholder!! The 407 Section is not free but has a lower rate than the 407 ETR Section.
Now in the past Ford removed the Tolls from both the 412 and 418 Highways. Hence the Durham District is calling for a temporary pause on the tolls due to a major construction that will impede the traffic severely in the Town of Brooklin for 18 months. Maybe you now have all the real facts!!
Sorry squeezer, regarding the license plate sticker (which you don't get anymore), I completely disagree. Eliminating sticker renewals was another of Dofo's bribery attempts, to go along with 50 cent beer (or whatever it was) and etc. Had he done that and said this was the gov't helping out during covid for maybe 2 or 3 years. Good for him. But eliminating the fee is irresponsible long term. The ford gov't has increased the yearly deficit and decreased spending (see for example health care). How you increase deficit by decreasing spending is, I am sure difficult. But Dofo has done it.
Also on a lighter side, when I renewed my license last year (they were not handing out stickers at all), they were going to put in a 1 year renewal. I said, for the price let's renew for 2 years LOL.
facts are facts.
I’ve only told people cough ( about the 407 being leased and CPP too) many many times. see how important people like CEOs and more that matter are?.
Btw do you remember why Ford removed the 412/418 tolls? Who exactly was whining about them?
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On Fords buck a beer and 1% income tax reduction ( laughable when you know tax code and math). Which is chump change compared to suits from the 905 on the 412/418 and 407….that all of Ontario is paying for and it cost millions. Many millions.
Would the question there be
who was he pandering to and why?
Truckers and the like maybe?
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I agree with you what he's done, beer pricing, sticker cost removal, no tolls, it's all voter bribing and more so to come now because he fears Crombie. I like it strictly from a personal and selfish stance. Politically though, it's a winner.
Conservatives are on their SECOND term in charge of Ontario, but ya the left caused the infallible conservatives to be in debt
. Seriously, the far rights cognitive dissonance is hilarious, sad and pathetic, but also hilariousAs long as you don't notice the ER closures, schools falling apart and massive housing issues he's caused.
But hey, $0.08 off your beer.....
well one problem there is sort of cause and effect. And often what happens when voters get bought too much or are seriously pissed.Conservatives are on their SECOND term in charge of Ontario, but ya the left caused the infallible conservatives to be in debt
Massive backlash when the pendulum swings. See
Rae being flushed so hard the NDP are still trying to recover. The cons after Mulroney, todays Ontarios liberals and quite likely tomorrows federal liberals.
Either way, none of that changes the fact people are enablers. And have forgotten only we can hold them accountable.
So you're saying it'll be a massive swing when we turf DoFo?
Then the cons will be out of office for a good chunk of time?
So what is your point? I am just relaying the real facts to bazokajoe, who stated that the 407 is a "Private Company".
Once again have you read you post where I'm stating that Ford removed the tolls for the 412 and 418? What are the relevance of the CEO's in this situation?
that those who matter, don’t give two shits about your ribbons?
That said, obviously given I’ve reminded people possibly you or squeezer about the 407 When Harris comes up. And numerous times when talking ( not copying and pasting) about the GTAs reputation and tolls on the 412/418. For once you agree with me.
It’s not so much about which party, or policy. But buying the throne in Queens park and Ottawa
Do you and others remember why and to who, Wynne sold 49% of Hydro one?
Rick Salutin: Selling Hydro was Kathleen Wynne’s inextinguishable sin
Rick Salutin is trying to understand why Kathleen Wynne is despised when she’s done many things right. Selling Hydro One left a bitter taste people cannot shake.
So why do we need tolls as per Drummond? See why Wynne sold H1
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You mean like in every other province, have you checked the situation for housing in Vancouver. Jeez that Ford is a pretty powerful guy. Just like how Harper caused a global financial crisis and how [and I have heard people say this in the 90's] that Mike Harris is responsible for the homeless situation, a situation in play through the western world after we decided that crazy people are human beings with rights and you can't go locking them up. Jeez that much power as a golf dude, and to have an impact on the global scene [even if you question the role of institutionalization it isn't as if Ontario had a special problem with homeless people.
Fuck man, maybe we should keep voting these people in, don't want to make them angry, I don't think you would like them angry.
possibly.
I don’t know that your name is Nastradamus. Given your track record on 1 billion things, I’m not betting on your predictions or opinions.
Time will tell how much of a disaster he leaves. There really aren’t that many that have caused massive backlash…just saying. Most do some good and some bad. Obviously you don’t know political history here either.
Which presently isn’t there. Just a few waves. That said, if he is in power for 3 or 4 terms until the Liberals recover. No one to blame but, yourself and others. For a lot of things, like the need for tolls, PS headcount per capita ( like RNs and cops), PS wage restraints on RNs and Cops and those like EAs and PSWs that can’t afford that. and far far more.
Rick Salutin: Selling Hydro was Kathleen Wynne’s inextinguishable sin
Rick Salutin is trying to understand why Kathleen Wynne is despised when she’s done many things right. Selling Hydro One left a bitter taste people cannot shake.
Btw Frank. On climate change very briefly. Do you not see how easier and fairer it would be to slap tolls on all the 400 series, Trans Canada, QEW, DVP to change people’s habits? Especially given the fact public transit ( like GO and the TTC) is available
Odd that they, neither Ford or JT won’t eh?
/predicts denials, deflections, and
crickets
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Greenbeltpossibly.
I don’t know that your name is Nastradamus. Given your track record on 1 billion things, I’m not betting on your predictions or opinions.
Time will tell how much of a disaster he leaves. There really aren’t that many that have caused massive backlash…just saying. Most do some good and some bad. Obviously you don’t know political history here either.
Which presently isn’t there. Just a few waves. That said, if he is in power for 3 or 4 terms until the Liberals recover. No one to blame but, yourself and others. For a lot of things, like the need for tolls, PS headcount per capita ( like RNs and cops), PS wage restraints on RNs and Cops and those like EAs and PSWs that can’t afford that. and far far more.
Rick Salutin: Selling Hydro was Kathleen Wynne’s inextinguishable sin
Rick Salutin is trying to understand why Kathleen Wynne is despised when she’s done many things right. Selling Hydro One left a bitter taste people cannot shake.www.thestar.com
Btw Frank. On climate change very briefly. Do you not see how easier and fairer it would be to slap tolls on all the 400 series, Trans Canada, QEW, DVP to change people’s habits? Especially given the fact public transit ( like GO and the TTC) is available
Odd that they, neither Ford or JT won’t eh?
/predicts denials, deflections, and
crickets
Health care
ER closures
Developer breaks that raised municipal taxes across the province.
LTB
Ontario Place
Science Centre
Cutting renewable contracts for $200 million then restarting them
The list of DoFo scandals is massive and the numbers show the largest corruption in Canadian history.
Now you're complaining about rural poverty and crime, all DoFo's file.
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We know you don’t actually know much. Especially about economics, math, statistics, history or politics.
Do you know 11 points is pretty large?
Jan 24th Frank.
the fall
Yet another WHIFF Frank
And like people aren’t letting you and others just deflect anymore. And I predicted. Why don’t you answer something for a change instead of deflecting.
Btw Frank. On climate change very briefly. Do you not see how easier and fairer it would be to slap tolls on all the 400 series, Trans Canada, QEW, DVP to change people’s habits? Especially given the fact public transit ( like GO and the TTC) is available
Odd that they, neither Ford or JT won’t eh?
/predicts denials, deflections, and
crickets
Btw Frank. On climate change very briefly. Do you not see how easier and fairer it would be to slap tolls on all the 400 series, Trans Canada, QEW, DVP to change people’s habits? Especially given the fact public transit ( like GO and the TTC) is available
Odd that they, neither Ford or JT won’t eh?
/predicts denials, deflections, and
crickets
Its early, old guy.We know you don’t actually know much. Especially about economics, math, statistics, history or politics.
Do you know 11 points is pretty large?
Jan 24th Frank.
the fall
Yet another WHIFF Frank
From your poll.
Oh, you actually wanted response, I thought you knew how stupid an idea this was and were just trolling.
Carbon taxes, old guy, carbon taxes work.
