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If Liberals don't have pharmacare bill by March 1, pact with NDP will be void: Singh

NotADcotor

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Sure you do, amazon, google, elon, facebook
So many you have to use that you almost no choice on the matter.
Amazon, or Chapters, Best Buy. Walmart etc
Google, facebook, never gave them a cent.
Elon. Are you serious? You think garbage like Tesla are the only option out there?

Again, blinded by hate.
 

NotADcotor

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Singh is an incompetent politician. He could've pushed a weak Trudeau around and made the pact contingent
on electoral reform, the NDP has the most to gain from a PR system.
And everyone else knows this also.

Funny though, NDP got majorities in BC and Alberta under the FPTP system with less than 50% of the vote, didn't seem too keen on PR when it benefits them.
 

Skoob

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Sure you do, amazon, google, elon, facebook
So many you have to use that you almost no choice on the matter.
Wrong.
I don't have to use any of them or I can use all of them, or pick the ones I want. That's how capitalism and the free market works. Choice.
Does the word "choice" and "free" exist in your Marxist world?
 

Frankfooter

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Nobody gives capitalists their money, except for government pork projects. One more thing your hate has made you unable to understand.
Even Homer Simpson can figure it out.
You don't understand the new feudalism and rentiers, do you?
 

Skoob

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Sure you do, amazon, google, elon, facebook
So many you have to use that you almost no choice on the matter.
Actually there's nothing but choice in the matter based on the examples you provided.

Amazon: Alibaba, eBay, Netflix, Rakuten, retailers, etc
Google: Microsoft, Disney, Hulu
Elon: every other EV manufacturer
Facebook: X, Instagram, Hubspot

In other words, competition = choice

Another FF face-plant.
 
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I said "
Amazon, or Chapters, Best Buy. Walmart etc
Google, facebook, never gave them a cent.
Elon. Are you serious? You think garbage like Tesla are the only option out there?

Again, blinded by hate. "

Sure you did.
Yeah, you came across well in that exchange.
 
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NotADcotor

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You don't understand the new feudalism and rentiers, do you?
I also understand people claiming that AIDS, the holocaust and the moon landings are not real, that the earth is flat, the vaccines don't work and the covid vaccine will kill everyone who gets it, chemtrails and whole loads of other bullshit. That is why I can call it bullshit, because I actually understand it unlike the people who spout off on this garbage.

You on the other hand are like usual completely out to lunch in some sort of fantasy land.

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Sure brah. I bet based on your posting history you think this feudalism thing is a plot by the Jews.

Also Feudalism, not that you know what it means isn't capitalism. New or old. You keep using words you don't understand, it's inconceivable.

Also what;s your point on rentiers. So people collect dividends and interest. Oh noes! I can see you shaking your fist grandpa Simpson style over that. I guess you think I should be killed much like many on the facebook do. I mean you are pro genocide after all, river to sea.
 
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Yeah, they're fucked either way
Not necessarily.
A lot can change in a year. In the summer of 2019, who might have guessed people would be either working from home in their PJs, or thrown to the wolves by the summer of 2020?

If he waits he risk.
The liberals punting JT if polls don’t change. A worsening of the economy, or higher rates or other things that might help him, but also the Cons.. worded slightly differently. Between now and what are the odds the Liberals will drop lower than 25% ( there are always die hards that will never change their votes no matter what) vs the odds they will gain ground back. Certainly the shitstorm over the EMA will hurt them some (the majority agreed/sympathized/or were “fine” with it and with truckers, just thought they should have left sooner. And the majority blamed Trudeau for not handling it well) and that was before a judge hung them. However, voters have ADHD and very short memories.

If he flushes them now, he risk.
Just a little blowback for an early election.

Whichever way he plays it some will crucify him. That’s politics. How many times in the last 30-50 years have the NDP had a legit chance at grabbing the official opposition?

Given polls today, the main issues. Which represents only the decided voters today. There will absolutely be many that are sick of the Liberals, but can’t bring themselves to vote Con. So are still undecided. And see them ( NDP) as the place to cast their votes with the election happening and have to decide. See also Bob Rae winning and the reasons why.

Voter Apathy/Turnout. Usually ticks upwards when the electorate is pissed. And historically, that almost always spells big trouble for incumbents in ridings. Fact of the matter is, politicians know this as well. And at times do all they can to keep it low. See keeping the GTA happy. They will also sometimes pick days for by-elections when it can reasonably be assumed people won’t bother to get off the couch so the incumbent ( party in power) has a greater chance of keeping the seat. Given polls today, it’s a safe bet voter turnout will tick upwards if not surge.

Is it a coincidence the NDP are tabling electoral reform? At the same time, he is giving them an ultimatum and just a few weeks to put it together?

Which ever way he plays it. Which boils down to playing it safe or going for it. “Fear and greed”. He really doesn’t have much to lose, but a chance for a lot of gain.

Risk vs reward.
 
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Frankfooter

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Actually there's nothing but choice in the matter based on the examples you provided.

Amazon: Alibaba, eBay, Netflix, Rakuten, retailers, etc
Google: Microsoft, Disney, Hulu
Elon: every other EV manufacturer
Facebook: X, Instagram, Hubspot

In other words, competition = choice

Another FF face-plant.
You just described feudalism, you listed which techno lords you will choose to work for through your shopping, browsing, entertainment and food.

 

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I also understand people claiming that AIDS, the holocaust and the moon landings are not real, that the earth is flat, the vaccines don't work and the covid vaccine will kill everyone who gets it, chemtrails and whole loads of other bullshit. That is why I can call it bullshit, because I actually understand it unlike the people who spout off on this garbage.

You on the other hand are like usual completely out to lunch in some sort of fantasy land.

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Sure brah. I bet based on your posting history you think this feudalism thing is a plot by the Jews.

Also Feudalism, not that you know what it means isn't capitalism. New or old. You keep using words you don't understand, it's inconceivable.

Also what;s your point on rentiers. So people collect dividends and interest. Oh noes! I can see you shaking your fist grandpa Simpson style over that. I guess you think I should be killed much like many on the facebook do. I mean you are pro genocide after all, river to sea.
We've entered an age of techno feudalism.

If you're actually curious and not just trolling.
Read this and we'll debate the ideas merits.

 

Skoob

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You just described feudalism, you listed which techno lords you will choose to work for through your shopping, browsing, entertainment and food.
Ah right...when you've lost another argument you distract by posting a cartoon that has nothing to do with my post.
Predictable.

Just give up already, people are staring and I'm embarrassed for you.
 

Skoob

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I also understand people claiming that AIDS, the holocaust and the moon landings are not real, that the earth is flat, the vaccines don't work and the covid vaccine will kill everyone who gets it, chemtrails and whole loads of other bullshit. That is why I can call it bullshit, because I actually understand it unlike the people who spout off on this garbage.

You on the other hand are like usual completely out to lunch in some sort of fantasy land.

View attachment 296013

Sure brah. I bet based on your posting history you think this feudalism thing is a plot by the Jews.

Also Feudalism, not that you know what it means isn't capitalism. New or old. You keep using words you don't understand, it's inconceivable.

Also what;s your point on rentiers. So people collect dividends and interest. Oh noes! I can see you shaking your fist grandpa Simpson style over that. I guess you think I should be killed much like many on the facebook do. I mean you are pro genocide after all, river to sea.
Keep in mind FF tries to pass himself off as a liberal but he's really a communist in disguise. His disdain for wealthy people and free markets and his love for government control give him away every time.
He's just not great at accepting reality & facts and convincing others he knows what he's talking about.
 

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Ah right...when you've lost another argument you distract by posting a cartoon that has nothing to do with my post.
Predictable.

Just give up already, people are staring and I'm embarrassed for you.
I knew the concept of techno feudalism would just to way over your head.
 

Skoob

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I knew the concept of techno feudalism would just to way over your head.
If you think you're being clever by distracting again, you're not.
BTW Ironic you refer to the work of a known leftwing nutjob from Greece who's economy collapsed because of socialism but he's living in luxury while complaining that Bezos is a devil. You Communists are all alike in your hypocrisy.

I'll just leave this here to extinguish your distraction:

We’re in his airy open-plan living room where his wife intermittently appears offering water, coffee and snacks and shooing away a large, enthusiastically affectionate labrador. “He’s totally in love with Yanis,” she says. Stratou and Varoufakis are a striking couple, as glamorous as their house, a cool, luminous space featuring poured concrete and big glass windows overlooking a perfect rectangle of blue pool.

“I have no issues with luxury,” he says at one point, which is just as well because the entire scene would give the Daily Mail a conniption, especially since Aegina seems to be Greece’s equivalent of Martha’s Vineyard, home to a highly networked artistic and political elite.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-technofeudalism-capitalism-ukraine-interview
 

Frankfooter

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If you think you're being clever by distracting again, you're not.
BTW Ironic you refer to the work of a known leftwing nutjob from Greece who's economy collapsed because of socialism but he's living in luxury while complaining that Bezos is a devil. You Communists are all alike in your hypocrisy.

I'll just leave this here to extinguish your distraction:

We’re in his airy open-plan living room where his wife intermittently appears offering water, coffee and snacks and shooing away a large, enthusiastically affectionate labrador. “He’s totally in love with Yanis,” she says. Stratou and Varoufakis are a striking couple, as glamorous as their house, a cool, luminous space featuring poured concrete and big glass windows overlooking a perfect rectangle of blue pool.

“I have no issues with luxury,” he says at one point, which is just as well because the entire scene would give the Daily Mail a conniption, especially since Aegina seems to be Greece’s equivalent of Martha’s Vineyard, home to a highly networked artistic and political elite.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-technofeudalism-capitalism-ukraine-interview
Wow, you googled techno feudalism but didn't take the time to understand what the argument is, you make an excellent serf.
 

Skoob

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Wow, you googled techno feudalism but didn't take the time to understand what the argument is, you make an excellent serf.
Says the guy who's only source of info is X.
I know about that theory...I think I may have even referenced it in the past here...I googled the author...because I wanted to confirm what I suspected...Left-wing hypocritical nutjob.

Care to distract further or should we just leave it as another attempt at distraction causing you to lose another argument?
 

Frankfooter

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Says the guy who's only source of info is X.
I know about that theory...I think I may have even referenced it in the past here...I googled the author...because I wanted to confirm what I suspected...Left-wing hypocritical nutjob.

Care to distract further or should we just leave it as another attempt at distraction causing you to lose another argument?
There is no point trying to discuss anything with you because you go instantly into troll mode, like now.
 
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