Are SPs exploiting our addiction?

IM469

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Unless you tell her that you’re a sex addict, how is she supposed to know and exploit it?
Not that hard really, she just looks around for people that have a dick between their legs.

It's not an addiction - it's nature's way of propagating the species. If we didn't have it, there would be no kids and most women would be seeking shelter in the forest.

It's not a constant craving - I loose the craving for at least 45 minutes after a BJ and 2 hours plus if I accidently stumble across a men's gay porn site. :sick:
 

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I stopped reading at lot lizard, anyone with that level of whorophobia and misogyny will never be able to present a critical analysis worth my time and effort to read or respond to.
I figured those terms would get under your skin, that’s why I used them. And for the record, we both know you read it and couldn’t come up with a response.
 
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If that makes you feel better about you're clearly miserable life, so be it :)
It’s a simple statement of fact; it doesn’t make me feel one way or the other about my life. I will confess, however, that I do derive a mild enjoyment out of the sparring match that it provoked.
I hope, for the sake of your professional future, that your performance here is not reflective of your ability to form concise, persuasive arguments.
 
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It’s a simple statement of fact; it doesn’t make me feel one way or the other about my life. I will confess, however, that I do derive a mild enjoyment out of the sparring match that it provoked.
I hope, for the sake of your professional future, that your performance here is not reflective of your ability to form concise, persuasive arguments.
Hunny I'm not upset at all, there is no sparring match because arguing with you is intellectually beneath me, and that's why you're trying to provoke me, but I'm not taking the bait.
 

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Hunny I'm not upset at all, there is no sparring match because arguing with you is intellectually beneath me, and that's why you're trying to provoke me, but I'm not taking the bait.
The fact that you keep replying is proof positive that you’ve been provoked into taking the bait. Your refusal to engage with counter arguments raises the question; Do you lack the drive to win an argument, or do you lack the ability?
 

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every time I "finish" with an escort, I am super happy, good mood and over the moon.
By the end of the day, I feel regretful, after the dent in my wallet and my "values" !
I cant help thinking that those ladies are just taking advantage of us, sex addicts. - Like an easy way to get our money!
I believe I am an addict, I cant help it - I try therapy for long. Its not working. I think it will only work if I unplug from the internet and all the temptations that come with it (social media, porn, movies, etc) which I find to be super hard to do.

Some SPs are so nice and you feel really at home with them during the "session" but most of them I feel they are just actors who want my money!

Sorry for the harsh "thinking out loud" post
What came first the chicken or the egg?
 

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Its of course fun for me and excitement when I am going (I plan and book like 5-6 days in advance) but I also worry as hell about health - don't you worry about health issues that you may get?
Go to the doctor and get tested every two week or every month. Minimum. Many clinics specialize in this or your own doctor can help you. Knowledge is power. Prevention is key. Your health, her health, all
of our health here depends on this responsibility.
 

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every time I "finish" with an escort, I am super happy, good mood and over the moon.
By the end of the day, I feel regretful, after the dent in my wallet and my "values" !
I cant help thinking that those ladies are just taking advantage of us, sex addicts. - Like an easy way to get our money!
I believe I am an addict, I cant help it - I try therapy for long. Its not working. I think it will only work if I unplug from the internet and all the temptations that come with it (social media, porn, movies, etc) which I find to be super hard to do.

Some SPs are so nice and you feel really at home with them during the "session" but most of them I feel they are just actors who want my money!

Sorry for the harsh "thinking out loud" post
They feel the same way but reverse. they mostly disassociate where possible. Genuinely nice and that’s why it’s hard when you connect - it’s harder for both to make sense of the arrangement It catches both of you. You both go separate ways and cry in silence and confusion of what this world is and the reality you’ve participated in
 

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Thankfully, I keep out of debt and I am employed in a corporate job and have a small side hustle BUT I feel this hobbying is causing me NOT TO FOCUS on career improvement, upgrade etc.
Huge part of the guilt is because of the fact that I am trying to be religious person. As I am believer Muslim, in Islam this is a huge grave sin if you dont repent.
I’m Catholic - you’re welcome to come to confession with me. Every religion has this problem. What does it mean to repent?
I find it interesting just to ponder that repeat and repent have one letter difference. It’s a cycle we all experience.
in what way has seeing a provider made you a better individual ? Can’t anything be said about that? I’m not sure if your guilt is alluding to you being married ? I feel like there’s sympathy for sex workers in religious texts. Context might be key though so I’m not sure
 

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Suppose you suspected that one of your regular clients had developed a “sex addiction?” Maybe by getting to know him over time you begin to notice that he’s visiting more often, spending more money than usual, or something just seemed off?

Would you raise the issue with him? Cut him off?

Just wondering
Maybe it’s just the process. It’s within the individual To know when it’s time. It’s why forcing someone to stop something or change doesn’t always work the first or second or third time around. There’s some other thing that’s the root problem. The individual needs to set the routine cadence. My therapist doesn’t complain when I see her every week or twice when I’m especially “off” nor does my rmt. Ebb and flow
 
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I think if you have such hangups you should not see a provider or at the very least readjust your thinking and approach.

I never feel guilty about seeing a provider. For me it is about fun and curiosity in discovering a new body. So am always super excited for a session, and don't feel guilty in any way.

Also, stay present in how much you budget towards this. Like have a goal, per year for your own entertainment. So for me that is 500 to 1000 per month. I don't ever go over it. When the month begins I know I am going to spend 500 to 1000 on providers. So that way I don't overspend, overbook, constantly think about providers, but when I do book with them, I have fun.

All that said, providers are not really exploiting anybody. You are the one choosing to book with them. They aren't forcing you to.
Exactly
 

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Right?! Your pusher will never tell you that you are buying too much drug. It's on you to know when to stop.

I personally don't feel like I exploit my clients. I feel the same way when I go shopping. It's the short dopamine high that does that to your brain and then it goes down.
Does remind me of my dealer asking me if I was okay twice and then a month later finally got clean. It was a wake up call. But so is anyone asking me if I’m okay - it’s usually a way of someone calling attention to something you know is needing attention and that’s the moment you needed And waited for.
 

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There was one year I visited escorts 100 times, and one time I visited three women on the same day, several other times I booked two women working in the same building from the same agency back to back. If I had a bad session, I would book another one immediately to make it up. Every weekend whenever I sat at home, I would feel this itch to get out and visit escorts, at the end of the year it cost me 5 figures. It's definitely an addiction, but I was young, horny, had no house, and good pay, so I never blamed it on the ladies, blame it on Jesus who filled you with all these desires.

So anyway, eventually I saved enough money for a downpayment, then Covid hit, because of mortgage payment, my spending dropped to 2k a year for the 3 covid years, I would only go when I feel super horny. Last year covid passed, I had more disposable income, and I ended up spending 4k instead.

My point is, live within your means, and you'll be fine, don't feel guilty about fucking hot women. Whenever I look back, I'm happy for the fond memories of sex during my younger years, remember you only live once. I only regret wasting money on bad sessions with unattractive women, I blame it on my own naivety and lack of experience.

As for your "values", I don't know what you're talking about, just put on A Criminal Mind by Gowan or It's A Sin by Pet Shop Boys and hum along.
Jesus doesn’t have anything to do with the desires. Go find your WWJD bracelet. You have it wrong.
look into hormones and consciousness.
 

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I’m in the same boat. I get a massive rush out of new sex partners, be they civilian or hookers. I go through the same up/down cycle you describe: A gradually building urge to stick Mr Happy in something new which gets to the point where it overcomes your better sense so you book a girl and have her rebalance your hormones. Feels really great in the moment and right after, but eventually you start to kick yourself for blowing all that cash and letting your self discipline slip. However, the urges builds and a month later your balls deep in a Japanese hooker and happy as hell.
The one thing that does seem to help is age; as you get older it slows down. I’m now going every month or two. In my twenties - thirties was a different story; luckily I was better looking back then so I could get some civi action. I used to be really bad. When I lived in Winnipeg there was this on-premise swingers place called Oasis. I remember one weekend when my GF was out of town; in went to the Oasis on Saturday afternoon and lucked out; there was a chick who was doing a gang bang, (decent looking, had a weird bush; very tight/stiff/curl-felt like a wire brush), I did her, hopped off cleaned up and wandered around. About 30 minutes later I‘m walking by a room with an open door, older couple in it, both kind of chunky; I’m not really attracted to her, but we end up chatting. After about ten minutes she asks if I’d like to have sex while her husband watches. I’m not really all that into her, but figure while not? So I do her; nothing special, just a standard screw. I head out, clean up, and then just go hang out in the sauna and steam room for an hour or so. I wander back downstairs to the common area and there is another chick doing a gang bang. She’s set up for doggy style on the central divan. Again, she’s big, which is something that I’m not fond of, but she’s young and she’s sticking her ass in the air and pretty much literally saying “Fuck Me”, so I get in line and I fuck her. Another clean up, and I’m off for a wander. A couple of hours later I come across a decent looking chick kneeling in one of the rooms a ring of guys around her; she’s got a cock in each hand and one in her mouth and every one else is jerking it looking at her. I work my way into the circle once one of the guys leaves. She never gets around to me, but I jerk off and eventual get a small load off onto her back/legs. At this point it’s after mid night and I’m tired so I head out. At the front there is this really hot, petite girl. I hear her ask the guy at the desk to call her a cab. I figure, what the hell, and ask her if she’d like a lift home. She accepts. Get to the car and start driving. She seems a little distracted, so I ask if everything is all right. She tells me she came to the club with her boyfriend, and the two of them got into a threesome with another chick, and when she wanted to leave the boyfriend decided to stay behind and fuck the other chick some more. I’m not really sure what to say to that, so half joking tell her she should fuck some other guy for revenge. She kind of shrugs. She was really good looking, just my type, petite, hand full tits and 80ish hair, so I figure, give it a shot and ask her if she’d like to fuck. She waits for a second and says ‘sure’, so I find a secluded parking lot, park and ask again if she is sure. She just adjusts herself in her seat, pulls her skirt up an moves her knees apart. I’m really ready at this point, so I climb over the centre console, move her panties to the side and slide in. She was very wet (I figured it was her BFs cum, and didn’t care). We finish, I hop back in my seat and drive her home. I drop her off with my mess still inside. I go home, hit the sack. I wake up the next morning, and all I can think about is that chick walking up her stairs, taking my mess in with her, and it gets me going. About 1pm, I can’t deal with it; I open up back page, get an appointment and go do a chunky red head with big tits that really flop when I thrust. I shoot a big load in her, head home, clean up. GF comes back that night; I’m still turned on thinking about the girl,I did in my car. I eat my GF out, fuck her, take a break, then she blows me, we take a break, the I eat her while my dick recovers, the I fuck her. I wanted to fuck her again but she said her pussy was sore from getting eaten twice and fucked twice, so I tit fuck her.
That is what sexual addiction looks like when you are 33 years old and hitting the gym on a regular basis. You hit 55, and sexual addiction looks more like ”I wish I had the energy to jerk off”. ;)
You should go to the Toronto oasis and report back your story.
 

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majority of us still don’t know who grace is but she’s all over the other review site. Can someone share who she is ? Is she a provider or client?
Check this thread post #19 for some answers you're looking for. There are likely other names also but those mentioned are her more recent. And currently she uses the name Luna Soliel. Anyone with that many names as an SP = red flag.
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You should go to the Toronto oasis and report back your story.
Sadly, I got old and fat. Were I to try that again today I suspect the story would run along the lines of: Arrived at the club, saw a chick doing a gang bang so I got in line. By the time I made it to the front for my turn my knees were too sore and my back hurt so I just sat down beside her, and had a nice chat about how her day was going. It was a disjointed chat because she could only answer when the gentleman who was face fucking her withdrew his cock to avoid ejaculating. Even when her mouth was unoccupied she she seemed to get distracted when the fellow fucking her got a bit carried away and jarred her cervix. Either way, she didn’t seem to mind me having a relaxing fap, and then a nap once I was finished. When I woke up she was gone and there was this one eyed Golum type individual with a neon blue wig sniffing my dick (reminded me of Biden for some reason). I said hello, which startled them and they ran off into the shadows….
 
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