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y2kmark

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Do you think refusing to end a 75 year occupation and continuing to take Palestinian land through settlements was a smart move?
Do you think ignoring Ben Gurion's warning and turning Israel into an apartheid state was a smart move?
Like the righties here in the US, it's not about being smart, it's about having your own way. When other arguments fail, fall back on God and use divine authority any way you want...
 
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shack

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I thought you said they were using them as human shields, now you say they are just leaving them exposed.
Which is it?
Any moron can see that it's both. A human shield doesn't have to be held directly in front. By placing tunnels close to the civilians, Hamas is daring Israel to bomb knowing that there will be casualties among the civilians. You claim to be so smart yet you couldn't figure this out? You're so funny, you should do standup on the Borscht Belt. You'd slay them.

The attacks on hospital are clear evidence.
You mean the ones that Hamas shot down on their own?
 
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Do you think refusing to end a 75 year occupation and continuing to take Palestinian land through settlements was a smart move?
Do you think that refusing to answer simple questions means that you can question me?

Do you think that Oct. 7 was a smart move considering how many Palis have died? And the retaliation was not a surprise.
 
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Any moron can see that it's both. A human shield doesn't have to be held directly in front. By placing tunnels close to the civilians, Hamas is daring Israel to bomb knowing that there will be casualties among the civilians. You claim to be so smart yet you couldn't figure this out? You're so funny, you should do standup on the Borscht Belt. You'd slay them.
Oh, you can see its both?

Bummer that the human shields excuse won't cut it in court, isn't it?
Israel still chose to kill 12,000 children. How many Hamas were hiding behind those 12,000 children, by the way?
You must have stats to back up your argument, otherwise you'd sound like a moron .


You mean the ones that Hamas shot down on their own?
You think Hamas 'shot down' hospitals?
 
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Do you think that refusing to answer simple questions means that you can question me?

Do you think that Oct. 7 was a smart move considering how many Palis have died? And the retaliation was not a surprise.
You didn't answer my simple questions.
Do you think refusing to answer me means I'll answer you?

Do you think committing genocide was a smart move?
Do you think destroying the two state solution was a smart move?

 
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y2kmark

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Which is a pretty good legal argument actually. Doubly so if the child was warned to stay off the road several times before.
Wow, down here we have kind of a rule (protocol, tradition, whatever) that the pedestrian always has the right of way. Especially where kids are concerned. Would it be the same to you if the kid run over was Jewish?
 

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So you think Palestinians shouldn't be allowed to dig tunnels.
Ok.
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Sure they can but when they dig military tunnels from hospitals, schools, Mosques, and private homes, it's a violation of international law.

BTW. Recent reports have UN estimates of Gaza needing 1.2 Billion in aid. Before the war, estimates had Hamas spending 2 Billion on their military tunnels but Israel exploration now estimates the tunnels system is at least twice what they expected with at least 350 miles of tunnels. Imagine how 4 billion in civilian infrastructure construction could have helped the people of Gaza?
 
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Frankfooter

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And still claiming all of Israel is illegitimate. Shows what a genocidal zealot you are.
Are you arguing that an illegal occupation makes a state 'legitimate'?
How many other 'legitimate' states can't define their borders, rule through apartheid, ignore UN and UN SC resolutions and commit genocide?

Which part of that makes Israel 'legitimate'?
 
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Is your repeated use of the word rape an attempt to pretend Hamas didn't rape victims?
Are you denying the allegations that Israeli soldiers have raped prisoners?
Where are the police reports of rape by Hamas, where are the names of the victims?

If you are so sure, you should support the ICC investigations into allegations of rape, apartheid, genocide and the occupation.
Time for you to man up and state you think the law is on your side.

Unless you know something else....
 
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y2kmark

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Is your repeated use of the word rape an attempt to pretend Hamas didn't rape victims?
When I was in the 8th grade I had to transfer to a completely different school in a different state. One of the first things I remember is one day the homeroom teacher(older lady) lectured the whole class on something that wasn't in any formal lesson plan. She had a school copy of a dictionary, and somebody had underlined (highlighters still around the corner) the word rape. She obviously wanted to let everyone know it wasn't good that we all had sex on the brain in the 8th grade. She started by reading the dictionary definitions of the word rape. You can rape a town. If Gaza had been an issue in 1965, I'm sure she would have added you can rape a territory. Under the dictionary definition then, the IDF has been raping Gaza every day since October. Maybe colonists need to have their own dictionary the same as their own version of the Bible. Rape would be entirely a crime against another person's body. The definition would include a reference to 10/7. It's one of the things Zionists want people to recall as often as possible, like the holocaust will only apply to Jews, anything else would just be pest control. Words like genocide will be given somewhat restricted meanings and words like apartheid and impunity will be absent altogether...
 

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Under the dictionary definition then, the IDF has been raping Gaza every day since October.
Did something happen then that Israel all of a sudden decided to start their raping?

Based on what you're saying here, you admit that there was no raping prior to Oct. It's only been SINCE Oct. Can you recall what happened to prompt this raping? As your comrades like to say, "things don't happen in a vacuum".
 
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Sure they can but when they dig military tunnels from hospitals, schools, Mosques, and private homes, it's a violation of international law.

BTW. Recent reports have UN estimates of Gaza needing 1.2 Billion in aid. Before the war, estimates had Hamas spending 2 Billion on their military tunnels but Israel exploration now estimates the tunnels system is at least twice what they expected with at least 350 miles of tunnels. Imagine how 4 billion in civilian infrastructure construction could have helped the people of Gaza?
Fiction
 
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Frankfooter

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Did something happen then that Israel all of a sudden decided to start their raping?

Based on what you're saying here, you admit that there was no raping prior to Oct. It's only been SINCE Oct. Can you recall what happened to prompt this raping? As your comrades like to say, "things don't happen in a vacuum".
Yes, starting Oct 7 Israel has been raping Gaza by destroying hospitals, schools, universities, bakeries, food warehouses, farms, housing and all water/electricity. They've destroyed cultural heritage, destroyed the courts and court records as part of their 'siege' of Gaza.

Israel is raping Gaza.



 
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Yes, starting Oct 7 Israel has been raping Gaza by destroying hospitals, schools, universities, bakeries, food warehouses, farms, housing and all water/electricity. They've destroyed cultural heritage, destroyed the courts and court records as part of their 'siege' of Gaza.
Why are you just repeating what I already replied to. I asked what happened on Oct.7 for Israel to begin what you call raping Gaza. What happened?
Cluck, cluck.
 
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