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Israel at war

Frankfooter

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You don't get it do you? Hamas intentionally targeted civilians. Documented the attack, celebrated the kills they inflicted (civilians or not). Paraded the bodies and still didn't stop firing rockets up to now (so why are nobody calling Hamas for ceasefire?). IDF meticulously selected targets and not just bombed Gaza to oblivion (which they can probably do). If Israel wanted to kill 10000 children and 50k civilian adults.... carpet bombing is the way to go...but they didn't do that....the numbers you pull are also "claims" and unproven but you keep saying as if it's true...such a textbook franky move... blabbering without a reliable source. It wouldn't require basic common sense...pro palestinians keep crying genocide...when Hamas covenant is the one that says they want to get rid of all the jews....they just can't and it frustrates people like you....I know.
Israel did the same thing but at 20x the scale with $3.8 billion in US weapons.

If Israel is 'meticulous' about picking targets that means they were meticulous in killing 10,000 children.
You just proved that they are killing children on purpose.
 
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shack

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This is how the Arab states are "supporting" Palestine.

As soon as Hamas falls, the other Arab states are going to fight to see who will replace Iran as Gaza's "daddy".

Thanks for all those posts Mandy. It's nice to see straight up truth instead of the vile, hate-filled and propaganda-filled tweets that are either doctored or are recycled from years ago.

Kudos.
 
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Frankfooter

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Okay, Hamas Supporters - aka "Hammies". This is my morning dump of anything I think is related to the conflict. (Even though Kauty thinks it's "spam" because he doesn't understand what I am doing with these posts).

The first post is about the Egyptian play to displace Iran as the power broker in Gaza. This one's for you, Kauty!

99% of Saudis back Palestine and want to cut off all ties with Israel.
Israel just assassinated a Hezbollah leader in Syria, pissing off Iran, Lebanon and Syria again.

Egypt will declare war in Israel if they follow through and try to push Palestinians into the Sinai.

Netanyahu can see the end coming and is now desperate to turn it into a full on middle east war to keep himself in power.

 
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richaceg

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Israel did the same thing but at 20x the scale with $3.8 billion in US weapons.

If Israel is 'meticulous' about picking targets that means they were meticulous in killing 10,000 children.
You just proved that they are killing children on purpose.
No I just proved your ignorance....Hamas terrorized Israel once again and declared war (when did it really start?) Once you wage war with your neighbors, your next step is to make sure your civilians are safe and away from where the start will take place...preparation means building bunkers, safe zones away from war factories and barracks...you know like what Israel does, be ready for the worst. the body count of Israelis would be higher if they didn't prepare...Hamas on the other hand are well prepared themselves, the only difference is, they have no regard for the civilians....in fact they probably planned to sacrifice the civilians...you keep chanting Israelis are killing civilians and genocide blah blah blah....what has Hamas done for the civilians in Gaza since October 7? Not a single fuck have they given....that's why you lose every argument no matter how much you spam tweets and links....there is zero evidence of Hamas actually looking after civilians....ZERO
 
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Frankfooter

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Except militarily, diplomatically, internationally, tactically and morally.

Please note that internationally no country has been willing to help them win.
Diplomatically?
The UN SC voted against Israel.
The UN GA voted against Israel.

Only Biden's veto is keeping the genocide alive.
No country will join Israel now.
 

niniveh

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The port of Elat. One of the justifications for the six day war...

This is not from M. Ahmedinejad but from Mohd. El-Erian, ex-PIMCO, ex-Harvard Multi Billion Dollar Endowment, now Master Queen's College, Cambridge.
In a week's time, Jan 1, a number of new admissions are anticipated at BRICS. You may be surprised who they are. And while the Houthis are putting a chokehold on one canal, the other one is already choking at 50% due to persistent droughts.

The Growing Risk of Global Disorder

Moreover, in its efforts to circumvent Western sanctions, Russia has received support from a growing (albeit still relatively small) group of countries. The limited success of the sanctions regime has eroded the belief that countries around the world have no choice but to be part of the Western-led economic order.

Second, America’s role in the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas has, for many countries, exposed the hollowness of the West’s stated commitment to upholding basic human rights and their inconsistent compliance with international law.

During my recent travels, I met many individuals who reiterated UN Secretary-General António Guterres’s stark warnings about the lack of protections for non-combatants in Gaza, the collapse of Gaza’s health system, the record death toll among United Nations’ humanitarian staff, and the imminent threats of widespread starvation, disease, civil disorder and another mass displacement of civilians.

As US President Joe Biden recently acknowledged, millions of people around the world now believe that Israel’s response to Hamas’s October 7 attack has gone too far, with Israel losing international support. At the most recent UN General Assembly vote on a ceasefire, 153 countries voted in favour and only ten against, with 23 abstentions.

A growing number of countries have lamented the impunity with which Israel has been allowed to ignore international law and bomb civilians, including thousands of women and children. Many are horrified by the warnings of Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner general of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, who has repeatedly described the current state of Gaza as “hell on Earth”.

As the humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues to escalate, several countries have expressed concern that the US, by failing to restrain its closest ally, is inadvertently enabling it. The Biden administration’s decision to bypass Congress to deliver more military aid to Israel, just one day after the US vetoed a UN Security Council resolution calling for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, has reinforced that perception.

Regardless of one’s position on these developments, they have called into question the effectiveness and legitimacy of the Western-led international order and risk accelerating the ongoing transition from a unipolar to a multipolar global economy. As middle powers increasingly assert themselves on the world stage, they will encourage smaller Western-aligned countries to contemplate the prospect of becoming “swing states”.

Western powers must confront this threat head-on. While undoing the damage that has already been done will take time, political leaders should focus on mitigating the risk of further fragmentation and forestall a rapid descent into international disorder by strengthening the existing multilateral architecture. This effort should start by reinvigorating previous reform initiatives within key institutions, starting with the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. The primary focus should be on voice and representation, dismantling outdated appointment processes that benefit Western interests, and modernising operational procedures.

These reforms are crucial to the Western-led order that has served the world well since the end of World War II. Should the current international framework be allowed to fail, it will not be replaced by a new system anchored by China but by more global disorder. Such an outcome would hurt everyone in the short term. It would also inhibit our collective ability to tackle the complex and growing long-term challenges we face.
 

shack

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Here you go. These are the genuine worst countries in the world for starvation.

An Arab country, Yemen is #3 on the list.


3. Yemen
  • GHI score in 2000: 41.4
  • GHI score in 2008: 37.8
  • GHI score in 2015: 42.1
  • GHI score in 2023: 39.9

Yemen is at the centre of one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises, suffering from conflict within its own borders as well as the effects of conflict around the world. Since the start of the Yemeni Civil War in 2014, poverty has increased dramatically and the country’s economy has been shattered. Devastated public health and water and sanitation systems have also led to high case numbers of cholera, measles, and polio (among others). This makes malnutrition an even more deadly condition. Its dependency on Russia and Ukraine for wheat imports has furthered levels of food insecurity and pushed the prices of basic goods even further out of reach.


Where is the outrage? Where are the demonstrations appealing to help these people? 370,000 have died, yet 10,000 dead in Gaza is a genocide.
 

Leimonis

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Where is the outrage? Where are the demonstrations appealing to help these people? 370,000 have died, yet 10,000 dead in Gaza is a genocide.
No jews no news
 
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Frankfooter

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No jews no news
First, many Jews hate zionists like you trying to make this about all Jews instead of a 19th century colonial movement.

Second, its like rump complaining about so many news stories about him doing idiotic and evil things.
If you don't want the bad press, stop killing babies.


 

shack

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99% of Saudis back Palestine and want to cut off all ties with Israel.
Israel just assassinated a Hezbollah leader in Syria, pissing off Iran, Lebanon and Syria again.

Egypt will declare war in Israel if they follow through and try to push Palestinians into the Sinai.
You mean that all of this is happening while Israel is methodically eradicating the Hamas vermin and their infrastructure? Obviously none of this is making a whit of difference on the ground in Gaza. Try posting something relevant.

Netanyahu can see the end coming and is now desperate to turn it into a full on middle east war to keep himself in power.
He's winning the war. Shortly, after it's over, good riddance. Nobody here likes him, so trying to make people feel bad that he'll gone, is having the opposite effect. It's a waste of bandwidth posting this irrelevant observation.
 
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