Israel at war

Leimonis

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Your other theory is hilarious.
There was no other theory. I only have one theory. That anti israel crowd has no money to hobby and that’s why they are visibly underrepresented here.
 

Klatuu

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Israel will win this war, so there will be no one state solution, since that is not the solution Israel wants. A two state solution will REQUIRE handing over adminstration of Gaza to a Palestinian authority, so that is what will be done.

I won't bother with a detailed response to your take on the history of the region or your stupid claim about ethnic cleansing You have it wrong, and the whole world knows it, including the Arab nations, which is why no one is rushing in to "save" Hamas from defeat.

Delusional
 
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Frankfooter

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There was no other theory. I only have one theory. That anti israel crowd has no money to hobby and that’s why they are visibly underrepresented here.
No, its really just that zionists are becoming the new nazis.
That's why nobody backs it.

Nobody wants to back bombing hospitals.

Nobody wants to back killing children.

Nobody is going to back the people doing this to other people.


You can't just shut everyone up.
 
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Dutch Oven

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There is no "war" to win. The outcome of this assault was pre-determined. Israel cannot lose because Hamas does not have the tools or training to defeat them. Even Hamas knew it before they attacked on October 7.
This makes no sense. History is replete with wars started by the side who ended up being trounced and who had no business attacking their enemy.

This is not a war but an assault on the Palestinians to punish them and use it as an excuse to grab more land - a tried and tested tactic used by Israel since 1967..
Nonsense. Israel occupied Gaza and turned it back over in the past. They don't want the responsibility of governing these lunatics. You really don't learn from history, do you?

A 2 state solution will not happen, because a) There is no land to create a 2 state solution and b) Israel has concretely refused the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state. Heck it is in the Likud charter.
To quote Captain Obvious, a political party is not a state, stupid. And, on history, once again you get an F. Israel has proposed 2 state solutions in the past. They will continue to do so.

As for your knowledge of history of that region - well, it is non-existent, so it is understandable that you do not want to discuss it.
No, it's just that once a nail has been hammered into a board, there's no need to continue hammering.

October 7, IS objectively one conflict in a multi-decade conflict. And yes, I hate racist, Zionist, violent Jews, much like I hate Hamas, that are in charge of Israel right now. The Zionists in power are basically Hamas (aka terrorists). They just speak Hebrew, follow Judaism and have more money and education.
How to say "I lack moral clarity" without stating "I lack moral clarity".
 

Dutch Oven

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Nonsense. October 7 was not the first time Hamas has attacked Israel. They knew what will happen, they knew how Israel would respond and they knew that they neither have the manpower, nor the resources to counter such a retaliation. Therefore, this is not a war. This is just an Israeli assault on the Palestinians.



They did. Much to the horror of many Israelis. Now they will take it back. How do I know? Because Netanyahu just said that Israel will maintain "security control" of Gaza. What happens when Israel maintains security control? Walls get erected, checkpoints get built, and settlements get built in strategic locations. How do I know? The West Bank. You really do not learn from history, do you?



One of the dumbest comments you have made yet. A 2 STATE solution, is a reference to creation of a sovereign state of Palestine. A state that Israel has refused. Israeli "proposals" for a 2 state solution is an insincere and cynical one - they will propose things that are unacceptable, that expect the other side to accept their terms. So it will never come to fruition. The only logical conclusion here to this entire conflict, is a 1 state solution.



How to say "I lack morality" without saying "I lack morality". Genocide apologists shouldn't be talking about moral clarity.



How to say, "I don't know what am talking about" without saying "I don't know what am talking about".
100% non sequiturs. The proper response to non-sequiturs is none at all. Hoping you get a new thinker in the New Year.
 
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Dutch Oven

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That’s not a very dignified retreat.
Here's some information that may benefit you and your brother-in-Hamas Kautiliya. When people walk away from speaking with the two of you on these subjects in real life, they aren't conceding defeat. They are just trying to get the hell away from a lunatic! At least for a while.

Don't worry. The stuff you are saying is so outrageous that I'm sure to come back for the amusement of it at some point. Just don't look for it over the holidays! So, unless Hamas decides to surrender before the New Year, you'll have plenty more opportunities to spam the board with your junk history and amoral analysis.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This is your dumbest post yet, Frankkky. And thats quite saying something.
Rocket propelled grenades dont really hurt tanks, thats why they're called "tanks".
Neither can bazookas.

Did you notice Hamas didint show any of the aftermath footage like destroyed tanks or dead IDF soldiers??
Thats because the tanks werent destroyed at all.

Read and learn something: https://ts2.space/en/can-rpg-7-destroy-an-abrams/#gsc.tab=0

Can an RPG-7 destroy an Abrams tank? Theoretically, it’s possible, but highly improbable in practice. The Abrams is engineered to withstand hits from much more powerful anti-tank weapons than the RPG-7. Its composite armor is specifically designed to defeat shaped charges, and the tank’s active protection systems can intercept incoming projectiles before they even reach the armor.

However, no defense is impenetrable. The RPG-7 could potentially exploit weak points in the Abrams’ armor, such as less-protected areas like the rear or the underbelly. Moreover, multiple hits from RPG-7s could theoretically overwhelm the tank’s defenses or damage external components, impairing its functionality
 
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whynot888

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Nonsense. October 7 was not the first time Hamas has attacked Israel. They knew what will happen, they knew how Israel would respond and they knew that they neither have the manpower, nor the resources to counter such a retaliation. Therefore, this is not a war. This is just an Israeli assault on the Palestinians.
If thats the case, that is just pure stupidity on their part knowing they will get annihilated. Im sorry to say but there really isn't paradise or 72 virgins waiting for their pedophile asses.
 

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If thats the case, that is just pure stupidity on their part knowing they will get annihilated. Im sorry to say but there really isn't paradise or 72 virgins waiting for their pedophile asses.
Makes as much sense as the spirit in the sky granting perpetual property rights. Religion poisons everything...
 

Phil C. McNasty

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They use RPG 29s, if I am right, and those do have PG-29V, tandem HEAT warheads. However, you are right, a lot of those explosions are of the Trophy APS shooting the incoming warhead down. But as we saw in that video, atleast 1 tank was infact damaged, may be from an anti-tank mine or a RPG 29 hit. Also remember, that the composite and reactive armor used in the Merkava 4, is indeed capable of being destroyed by the Kornet ATGM or the RPG 29, and the APS protection is only good for defense against a few warheads, after which the countermeasures run out. So possibly swarming a tank with RPG hits could potentially destroy it too
I dont think they were destroyed because Hamas would have posted aftermath video of dead IDF soldiers or burnt out tanks.
Hamas wouldve scored huge propaganda points if they had, and that tells me those tanks were barely scratched
 
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Taking pleasure in seeing human beings being blown to pieces is pretty sick
The Israelis and North American Jews don't.

The Palestinians and many Muslims do when it's Jews being blown up, murdered, or otherwise humiliated, tortured, and raped. They're dancing in the streets and dragging Jewish bodies behind their vehicles...
 
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Fixed your post to correct from hasbara troll to honesty,
You have no concept of what honesty is.

I stated that the US dropped 2 nukes on Japan in WWII and you accused me of saying that I think Israel should do the same.

You agreed that the US dropped 2 nukes on Japan in WWII.

fringie wants Israel to use nukes on Gaza.

How long before you have to kill the next generation, shack?
It depends how quickly they can steal the humanitarian aid from the civilians.
 

Klatuu

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This is your dumbest post yet, Frankkky. And thats quite saying something.
Rocket propelled grenades dont really hurt tanks, thats why they're called "tanks".
Neither can bazookas.

Did you notice Hamas didint show any of the aftermath footage like destroyed tanks or dead IDF soldiers??
Thats because the tanks werent destroyed at all.

Read and learn something: https://ts2.space/en/can-rpg-7-destroy-an-abrams/#gsc.tab=0
Oh Phil…..your ADD is at it again. Israel doesn’t have Abrahm tanks and the clip does show destroyed Israeli tanks and bulldozers. As well as a selection of occupation thugs about to meet their maker.
 

Frankfooter

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The Israelis and North American Jews don't.

The Palestinians and many Muslims do when it's Jews being blown up, murdered, or otherwise humiliated, tortured, and raped. They're dancing in the streets and dragging Jewish bodies behind their vehicles...
North American Jews of conscious are protesting Israeli genocide and making the news.
No Palestinian is dancing in the street right now.


 

Frankfooter

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You have no concept of what honesty is.

I stated that the US dropped 2 nukes on Japan in WWII and you accused me of saying that I think Israel should do the same.

You agreed that the US dropped 2 nukes on Japan in WWII.

fringie wants Israel to use nukes on Gaza.


It depends how quickly they can steal the humanitarian aid from the civilians.
You think that post was honest?

You're going to be seeing photos of starving people looking like they came out of Aushwitz soon, buddy.
I'm sure you'll just do your little happy dance with the news.

From the WHO.

An unprecedented 93% of the population in Gaza is facing crisis levels of hunger, with insufficient food and high levels of malnutrition. At least 1 in 4 households is facing “catastrophic conditions”: experiencing an extreme lack of food and starvation and having resorted to selling off their possessions and other extreme measures to afford a simple meal. Starvation, destitution and death are evident.

 
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