The only reason Canada did ok through 2008 was Harper didn't have time to deregulate the banks, had he we would have been in the same mess as the US.
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But even worse than that was that if Harper was the PM during the Iraq War, undoubtedly he would have committed Canada to the war resulting in the deaths of several soldiers and a waste of Billions of dollars. So instead of a surplus, Canada like the USA would have been in a deep debt prior to the Recession. We have to thank the likes of Chretien for wanting Proof of "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Harper on the other hand was condemning Chretien for not joining in the most pathetic reasons for a War!!
Leave it to Beaver.
2008. you are just wrong. Very wrong. If you actually knew as much as you pretend and think you know. You’d have said something else. That you didn’t tells me everything I need to know. No, I’m not going to mention it. You’re clueless and I’ll leave it that way.
2) yes he inherited a decent position. So did JT. We’ve been over that. Again, you’re clueless. What will Pierre inherit? Mountains of debt and some nasty problems. Hello McFly?
You’re only answers are it’s them not us.
2008. you are just wrong. Very wrong. If you actually knew as much as you pretend and think you know. You’d have said something else. That you didn’t tells me everything I need to know. No, I’m not going to mention it. You’re clueless and I’ll leave it that way.
2) yes he inherited a decent position. So did JT. We’ve been over that. Again, you’re clueless. What will Pierre inherit? Mountains of debt and some nasty problems. Hello McFly?
You’re only answers are it’s them not us.
See unlike you, Frank other die hards. I can agree to a degree on this. That said, there’s some subtle differences. But what do they have in common?
You, the looney die hard, live beyond our means left in the GTA. Without you they don’t stay in power. So they throw money at you, to keep your whines to a minimum and happy and in return your votes. Whether their name is Ford/Wynne, Trudeau/Probably Pierre, and before him O’Toole…(gee I wonder why the Cons thought/hoped someone from the GTA might be the ticket)
See also Toronto city council and the mess Chow inherited. See also McGuinty/Wynne and Rae
Do you believe in coincidences?
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Not only are you an ignorant layman and clueless about economics. Nor politically aware (see post above) and now trying to deflect. You have the memory of a seive.
Habe you forgotten Ontario became a “have not” province under McWynne. Yes you have.
Have you forgotten the spats between Wynne and Harper when she went begging and he said no. Yes you have.
Have you forgotten the decimation of manufacturing and more throughout the rest of Ontario…Under Mcguinty and Wynne… while you stuck your head in the sand…and hung them out to dry…Yes you have. No surprise here, it’s all about you. And they are free dumb truckers..
Have you forgotten Don Drummond? How can a person forget what they ignore and don’t know……….
Have you forgotten Fords rhetoric “Open for business” and buck a beer…and 1/2% off lower tier income tax…Yes you have. But you can’t even grasp why he pandered to them…it’s all about you…and they are uneducated redneck free dumb truckers.
Do you have a clue about Canadas economy? The largest components and contributors to GDP. Obviously you don’t. That’s you and sadly too many self absorbed residents of the GTA
you didn’t and can’t grasp that when “Canada” is doing “well” ( say today and your defence of JT) That’s thanks to Ontario. Nor did you or can you grasp that when growth is tepid (when Harper was at the wheel) . That too is thanks to Ontario. But here’s a clue you obviously didn’t/can’t grasp.
Where do all the immigrants go? Looking for work…and a place to live…..You made the bed…and all you do is whine for more..more more more.
Regarding Alberta. Yes, they too are vital. Right behind Ontario because after that………….……………………So now you want to kill their economy. Look at you go….aren’t you the sharpest knife.
Make up your mind Beaver, stop waffling and/or deflecting. Accept you’re out of your depth. And while at it. Take some high school economics classes.
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You forgot how the free trade agreement under the cons was the reason that Ontario manufacturing left.
Just like you forgot that the buck a beer thing failed to give us buck a beer.
Your post is just more angry and confused ramblings, you blame liberal economics but then go back the liberal Drummond economic model as your ideal. Its clear because you can't articulate policy solutions, all you can talk about are symptoms and failed claims of the right wing politicians you back.
What do you actually think PeePee will do to fix the situation?
25% of US debt results of Trumpy… Such a great businessmanOnce again do widen your scope when you complain everything about Canada. if you take the USA and UK in comparison, yet again though Canada's deficit and debt do look to be very high, it is not as bad as The US and UK. What Trudeau did was to take Canada out of the Recession that Harper handed him. It meant that the economy had to be stimulated and it seemed to go according to script until The Pandemic hit and then on The War in Ukraine, The scale of the forest fires in the past few years, as well as the effect of those severe weather impacts not only to North America but globally. Yet Pee Pee was complaining about not enough being done to address the housing crisis, and aid to the military. Yet when the Government is intending to address it, once again he complains about too much being spent.
Take a look at the UK Government's cost to address the debt for the Interest borrowing costs that hit UKP Sterling 111 Billion in the last Financial year, and UKP Sterling 23 Billion to pay the Bond Holders Interest. Its National Debt is UKP sterling 2.59 Trillion. This from a "Fiscally Responsible" Conservative Government:
Cost of national debt hits 20-year high
The rise in the cost of borrowing comes as chancellor, Jeremy Hunt prepares for the autumn statement.www.bbc.co.uk
The USA Debt Cost has past $1 Trillion:
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
We know that NO GOVERNMENTS be it Conservative, Liberal or NDP would be insulated from the present day Global occurrences. No wonder that all our allies from NATO want Canada to spend more!!
Typical Liberal Deflection away from the clown and shitshow here when they don’t like facts or history.25% of US debt results of Trumpy… Such a great businessman
“Hey, look over there”.
Again. This is the double standard, 2-Tier system I keep talking about.25% of US debt results of Trumpy… Such a great businessman
You mock Trump for resulting in 25% of US debt, But Trudeau is responsible for 50% of Canadian debt.
Well that is a fact. No deflection here.
And by the way the real shit show was 4 years of Trump. From alternative facts to throwing toilet paper to Puerto Ricans…
Maybe it is. You’re still deflecting from the shit show here. Aka “look at Trump”.
Last I checked, correct me if I’m wrong.
It’s 2023 and you don’t vote in the US, but you do here.
Yes true thankfully not voting in the US. I still think Trump is just a fraud. An imbecile greedy ass hole. In all my career i was able to spot such imbecile very easily as they are as full of confidence as they are full of shit.
Here i tend to vote NDP but still think the libs are doing an ok job.
Agree on the first. Not so much the last. Many statics and a majority of Canadians think differently. Are tired of his act and the shit show here
What "Have not" Province Bullshit are you on about? Harper and The Ontario Liberal Government worked jointly to bail out GM and Chrysler.
But you seem to be okay with Harper not funding various Provinces, and yet presently we know how the Provinces were begging Trudeau to help bail them out from their Healthcare crisis.
Now you just resort to nothing but abusive slangs. You must be one of the FreeDumb Convoy ass kissers. The rest of your post is a total and utter gibberish!!!!
Leave it to Beaver. He’s acting like child having been spanked, has the memory of a sieve and political acumen of one too. Nor does he have the capacity to think. Maybe I should google before making myself look stupid.
First “have not provinces”. Aka equalization payments.
Second Harper/Wynn’s feuds
Harper, Wynne's feud tame
Contrary to what you are hearing this election, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne and Prime Minister Stephen Harper are rank amateurs when it comes to federal-provinci…
www.thewhig.com
Third GM/Ford with plants and head offices where?…The rest of manufacturing throughout Ontario Beaver? So “billions” for them. She can find 75 mil for tony wine sippers in NoTL but…..
Crickets for so many.
Premier unveils Ontario’s $75-million Wine and Grape Strategy at NOTL Campus | InsideNC
Niagara College’s Wine Visitor + Education Centre was in the spotlight on Dec. 16, as the venue for an announcement by the Ontario premier aimed at boosting the province’s wine industry. Premier Kathleen Wynne, who is also minister of Agriculture and Food, held a press conference at the WVEC...
www.niagaracollege.ca
an insulting 200k for
Wynne offers $200K to help Leamington in wake of Heinz closure
Premier Kathleen Wynne says those affected by the planned closure of the Heinz plant in Leamington, Ont., will be getting aid from the government.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
Anywho, so who’s confused, has a horrible memory, doesn’t grasp politics ( aka vote buying and the GTA) ..is a die hard Liberal and less than layman’s understanding of economics.?
Maybe in the future, you’ll think twice. About Freedumb truckers, uneducated red necks and people other than yourselves ( aka Alberta, Central Ontario), why you have a housing crises-or responses to questions about leaving disasters..or Canadas economy (gdp).
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Oh, and btw Beaver. When did Ontario stop being a have not province and a ball and chain around the feds and canadas economy…?
2018.
Just after Harper left, Ford came in.
So if you want to compare deep, long lasting, wide ranging “tough times”…Ten years of pain and agony for most people outside the centre of the universe…For Harper…who had Ontarios train wreck as a ball and chain.
versus 2 from Covid.
But those same people you call uneducated red necks, freedumb truckers, whacked again and thrown under the bus and once again hung out to dry by you and the left….never think of them, know they exist or do you seem to grasp PPs base or why…maybe “buck a beer” will jog your memory….the left made fun of that too, didn’t they……..And now he/they/you want to kill Alberta’s economy.
Sunny days last forever
And when did house price become meteoric?
and everyone including immigrants start flooding the GTA looking for work and greener pastures….see also healthcare problems, warnings ignored, etc and so on….Boomers too..
who love to spend, live beyond their means are addicted to deficits and debt, have their votes bought and don’t know or care there’s life outside the GTA....while everyone else “too bad, so sad”…
2008
2018.
Just after Harper left, Ford came in.
So if you want to compare deep, long lasting, wide ranging “tough times”…Ten years of pain and agony for most people outside the centre of the universe…For Harper…who had Ontarios train wreck as a ball and chain.
versus 2 from Covid.
But those same people you call uneducated red necks, freedumb truckers, whacked again and thrown under the bus and once again hung out to dry by you and the left….never think of them, know they exist or do you seem to grasp PPs base or why…maybe “buck a beer” will jog your memory….the left made fun of that too, didn’t they……..And now he/they/you want to kill Alberta’s economy.
Sunny days last forever
And when did house price become meteoric?
and everyone including immigrants start flooding the GTA looking for work and greener pastures….see also healthcare problems, warnings ignored, etc and so on….Boomers too..
who love to spend, live beyond their means are addicted to deficits and debt, have their votes bought and don’t know or care there’s life outside the GTA....while everyone else “too bad, so sad”…
2008
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Post a chart showing manufacturing differences over the last few decades in Ontario to show us how much better DoFo is doing.Leave it to Beaver. He’s acting like child having been spanked, has the memory of a sieve and political acumen of one too. Nor does he have the capacity to think. Maybe I should google before making myself look stupid.
First “have not provinces”. Aka equalization payments.
Second Harper/Wynn’s feuds
Harper, Wynne's feud tame
Contrary to what you are hearing this election, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne and Prime Minister Stephen Harper are rank amateurs when it comes to federal-provinci…
Third GM/Ford with plants and head offices where?…The rest of manufacturing throughout Ontario Beaver? So “billions” for them. She can find 75 mil for tony wine sippers in NoTL but…..
Crickets for so many.
Premier unveils Ontario’s $75-million Wine and Grape Strategy at NOTL Campus | InsideNC
Niagara College’s Wine Visitor + Education Centre was in the spotlight on Dec. 16, as the venue for an announcement by the Ontario premier aimed at boosting the province’s wine industry. Premier Kathleen Wynne, who is also minister of Agriculture and Food, held a press conference at the WVEC...www.niagaracollege.ca
an insulting 200k for
Wynne offers $200K to help Leamington in wake of Heinz closure
Premier Kathleen Wynne says those affected by the planned closure of the Heinz plant in Leamington, Ont., will be getting aid from the government.toronto.ctvnews.ca
Anywho, so who’s confused, has a horrible memory, doesn’t grasp politics ( aka vote buying and the GTA) ..is a die hard Liberal and less than layman’s understanding of economics.?
Maybe in the future, you’ll think twice. About Freedumb truckers, uneducated red necks and people other than yourselves ( aka Alberta, Central Ontario), why you have a housing crises-or responses to questions about leaving disasters..or Canadas economy (gdp).
