I was totally unaware that the US kept all of MAGA in a concentration camp.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Do you really want to compare Israel to Russia or Syria?
Is it that bad already?
That thread would die so quickly.
Someone would post 'isn't this horrible' and everyone would agree.
Nobody would post 'they are all vermin and need to be exterminated' or 'so what, its just war' or 'they had it coming those Syrians'.
These threads continue because people defend the occupation, blockade, apartheid and now genocide.
The fact that you are part of a small crowd defending genocide is why there are so many threads and protests.
I mentioned what is happening in Darfur but the wokies/lefties don't care.
Darfur genocide - Wikipedia
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Again, do you think there would be debate?I mentioned what is happening in Darfur but the wokies/lefties don't care.
Darfur genocide - Wikipedia
That someone would argue 'they are all vermin and need to be exterminated'?
Nope, just the genocide, occupation and apartheid and that's only zionists, not 'the Jews' as you like to say.
So your imaginary conspiracies just like you think Jews have subjugated the US.
I'm not sure how to take this because you obsessively make excuses and thing Hamas is justified. Does this mean you think Shack is justified?
FIRST READING: York University's brave fight to vandalize bookstores without consequence (for Palestine) (msn.com)
York University – long a centre of Canadian anti-Israel sentiment – is now witnessing a miniature staff revolt demanding that faculty be allowed to commit pro-Palestinian vandalism without consequence.
The inciting incident was the arrest of three York University staff members in connection with the targeted vandalism of a Toronto-area Indigo bookstore. On Nov. 10, demonstrators in reflective vests splashed red paint on the chain’s flagship location at Bay and Bloor streets and pasted posters to its front windows accusing Jewish CEO Heather Reisman of “funding genocide.”
Last week, Toronto police announced the arrest of 11 people in connection with what they deemed an incident of “hate-motivated mischief.” When it swiftly emerged that three of those were York University employees, including an associate professor, the school responded by putting all three on leave, and releasing a statement saying that its commitment to “free speech and open dialogue” did not include violations of the law.
On Tuesday, 200 faculty and students walked out, calling the suspensions “an effort to repress Palestine solidarity peace activism.” “Stop campus reprisals! Reinstate them NOW! Permanent ceasefire NOW!” reads the official literature for the walkout, which was organized by a “coalition of York faculty.”
Protesters carrying a banner reading “Canada Stop Arming Israel” also massed outside the Toronto Police’s 52 Division location downtown, demanding the charges be dropped.
On Thursday, social activist Naomi Klein will headline another demonstration outside Indigo to pin up additional posters and denounce what they call “police intimidation tactics against peace activists.”
None of the actions are claiming that the Indigo demonstration never happened, or that the accused York University staff had nothing to do with it. Rather, the gist is that using posters and red paint to accuse a bookstore CEO of genocide is not only “legitimate and necessary,” but should be defended by York University administrators.
“Many faculty members are outraged that the administration has suspended these individuals rather than defending them publicly,” York University associate professor Anna Zalik told The Canadian Press.
Zalik, who specializes in critical development studies, has been leading the effort to have the three staff members reinstated.
Indigo has long been a target of the Canadian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, a university-led effort to boycott any business with even peripheral connections to the State of Israel.
The cited reason for Indigo’s inclusion is Reisman’s co-founding of the HESEG Foundation, a Canadian-registered charity that funds the tuition of former “lone soldiers,” foreign volunteers for the Israeli Defense Forces.
This, according to an advisory for the planned Thursday demonstration, makes Indigo complicit in “war crimes,” a “genocidal campaign” and “profiteering from Israeli war crimes.”
The statement also denounced the Toronto Police for “grotesque use of inflammatory language” in accusing the alleged Nov. 10 vandalism of being connected to “hate.” A throughline in all the counter-demonstrations is the assertion that accusing Israel and its supporters of genocidal war criminality is not antisemitic.
“We know that fighting antisemitism requires fighting anti-Palestinian racism and all forms of interlocking oppressions; none of us will be free until all of us are free,” reads the advisory for the Klein-led Thursday protest.
Although police characterized the Nov. 10 incident as a “suspected hate-motivated offence,” none of the 11 were actually charged with hate crimes. The only two charges are mischief over $5,000 and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. Both charges carry a maximum punishment of up to 10 years in prison, although penitentiary sentences for the offence are rare.
Following the Oct. 7 massacres in Israel, Canadian academia has produced a wave of statements and petitions excusing the attacks or celebrating them outright as a “decolonial resistance.”
Throughout, York University has consistently emerged as an unambiguous focal point. It was the York Federation of Students that issued a statement in the immediate aftermath of the massacres deeming them a “justified and necessary” act of “resistance.” “Chant sheets” distributed by the federation at protests also contain calls of “long live the intifada!,” a reference to violent Palestinian uprisings against Israel.
York University law faculty were disproportionately represented in a mid-November petition asserting that the massacres should be “contextualized,” rather than condemned.
And CUPE locals representing York University staff have issued multiple statements accusing Israel of “genocide” and “apartheid,” while making no mention whatsoever of the Oct. 7 massacres that sparked the current conflict. “We remain dedicated to fighting against Canada’s own settler-colonial violence,” reads one from Oct. 18.
The three suspended York University staffers are Lesley Wood, 56, a York University associate professor specializing in leftist protest movements. Her most recent paper is Counterprotest and Anti-Racist Solidarity in the Trump Era.
Sharmeen Khan, 45, a bookkeeper with the faculty union CUPE 3903 who, according to her Facebook page, coordinates “workshops to help people become activists.” And Stuart Schussler, 39, a graduate student whose personal blog details a career of activist work in Mexico, Ecuador and Chicago.
York University – long a centre of Canadian anti-Israel sentiment – is now witnessing a miniature staff revolt demanding that faculty be allowed to commit pro-Palestinian vandalism without consequence.
The inciting incident was the arrest of three York University staff members in connection with the targeted vandalism of a Toronto-area Indigo bookstore. On Nov. 10, demonstrators in reflective vests splashed red paint on the chain’s flagship location at Bay and Bloor streets and pasted posters to its front windows accusing Jewish CEO Heather Reisman of “funding genocide.”
Last week, Toronto police announced the arrest of 11 people in connection with what they deemed an incident of “hate-motivated mischief.” When it swiftly emerged that three of those were York University employees, including an associate professor, the school responded by putting all three on leave, and releasing a statement saying that its commitment to “free speech and open dialogue” did not include violations of the law.
On Tuesday, 200 faculty and students walked out, calling the suspensions “an effort to repress Palestine solidarity peace activism.” “Stop campus reprisals! Reinstate them NOW! Permanent ceasefire NOW!” reads the official literature for the walkout, which was organized by a “coalition of York faculty.”
Protesters carrying a banner reading “Canada Stop Arming Israel” also massed outside the Toronto Police’s 52 Division location downtown, demanding the charges be dropped.
On Thursday, social activist Naomi Klein will headline another demonstration outside Indigo to pin up additional posters and denounce what they call “police intimidation tactics against peace activists.”
None of the actions are claiming that the Indigo demonstration never happened, or that the accused York University staff had nothing to do with it. Rather, the gist is that using posters and red paint to accuse a bookstore CEO of genocide is not only “legitimate and necessary,” but should be defended by York University administrators.
“Many faculty members are outraged that the administration has suspended these individuals rather than defending them publicly,” York University associate professor Anna Zalik told The Canadian Press.
Zalik, who specializes in critical development studies, has been leading the effort to have the three staff members reinstated.
Indigo has long been a target of the Canadian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, a university-led effort to boycott any business with even peripheral connections to the State of Israel.
The cited reason for Indigo’s inclusion is Reisman’s co-founding of the HESEG Foundation, a Canadian-registered charity that funds the tuition of former “lone soldiers,” foreign volunteers for the Israeli Defense Forces.
This, according to an advisory for the planned Thursday demonstration, makes Indigo complicit in “war crimes,” a “genocidal campaign” and “profiteering from Israeli war crimes.”
The statement also denounced the Toronto Police for “grotesque use of inflammatory language” in accusing the alleged Nov. 10 vandalism of being connected to “hate.” A throughline in all the counter-demonstrations is the assertion that accusing Israel and its supporters of genocidal war criminality is not antisemitic.
“We know that fighting antisemitism requires fighting anti-Palestinian racism and all forms of interlocking oppressions; none of us will be free until all of us are free,” reads the advisory for the Klein-led Thursday protest.
Although police characterized the Nov. 10 incident as a “suspected hate-motivated offence,” none of the 11 were actually charged with hate crimes. The only two charges are mischief over $5,000 and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. Both charges carry a maximum punishment of up to 10 years in prison, although penitentiary sentences for the offence are rare.
Following the Oct. 7 massacres in Israel, Canadian academia has produced a wave of statements and petitions excusing the attacks or celebrating them outright as a “decolonial resistance.”
Throughout, York University has consistently emerged as an unambiguous focal point. It was the York Federation of Students that issued a statement in the immediate aftermath of the massacres deeming them a “justified and necessary” act of “resistance.” “Chant sheets” distributed by the federation at protests also contain calls of “long live the intifada!,” a reference to violent Palestinian uprisings against Israel.
York University law faculty were disproportionately represented in a mid-November petition asserting that the massacres should be “contextualized,” rather than condemned.
And CUPE locals representing York University staff have issued multiple statements accusing Israel of “genocide” and “apartheid,” while making no mention whatsoever of the Oct. 7 massacres that sparked the current conflict. “We remain dedicated to fighting against Canada’s own settler-colonial violence,” reads one from Oct. 18.
The three suspended York University staffers are Lesley Wood, 56, a York University associate professor specializing in leftist protest movements. Her most recent paper is Counterprotest and Anti-Racist Solidarity in the Trump Era.
Sharmeen Khan, 45, a bookkeeper with the faculty union CUPE 3903 who, according to her Facebook page, coordinates “workshops to help people become activists.” And Stuart Schussler, 39, a graduate student whose personal blog details a career of activist work in Mexico, Ecuador and Chicago.
Zionists, basetkcase.
There are lots of Jews who are against zioinism so stop pushing that antisemitic trope.
This discussion is about Israeli policy and zionism.
Netanyahu won't stop, if he does his political career is over.
Biden is giving him a green light but demanding he stops with the genocide.
But now the pope says its terrorism.
Biden is supposed to be a devout catholic, if he doesn't stop after this I guess he's going straight to hell.
You make a good point.
I take it back.
shack is worse than Hamas.
Hamas backs the two state solution.
Netanyahu and shack don't, they back genocide.
This is how you justify genocide to your base.
‘There are 2 million Nazis’ in West Bank, says far-right Finance Minister Smotrich
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Now you think its a hate crime to protest against genocide and those funding genocide?FIRST READING: York University's brave fight to vandalize bookstores without consequence (for Palestine) (msn.com)
York University – long a centre of Canadian anti-Israel sentiment – is now witnessing a miniature staff revolt demanding that faculty be allowed to commit pro-Palestinian vandalism without consequence.
The inciting incident was the arrest of three York University staff members in connection with the targeted vandalism of a Toronto-area Indigo bookstore. On Nov. 10, demonstrators in reflective vests splashed red paint on the chain’s flagship location at Bay and Bloor streets and pasted posters to its front windows accusing Jewish CEO Heather Reisman of “funding genocide.”
Last week, Toronto police announced the arrest of 11 people in connection with what they deemed an incident of “hate-motivated mischief.” When it swiftly emerged that three of those were York University employees, including an associate professor, the school responded by putting all three on leave, and releasing a statement saying that its commitment to “free speech and open dialogue” did not include violations of the law.
On Tuesday, 200 faculty and students walked out, calling the suspensions “an effort to repress Palestine solidarity peace activism.” “Stop campus reprisals! Reinstate them NOW! Permanent ceasefire NOW!” reads the official literature for the walkout, which was organized by a “coalition of York faculty.”
Protesters carrying a banner reading “Canada Stop Arming Israel” also massed outside the Toronto Police’s 52 Division location downtown, demanding the charges be dropped.
On Thursday, social activist Naomi Klein will headline another demonstration outside Indigo to pin up additional posters and denounce what they call “police intimidation tactics against peace activists.”
None of the actions are claiming that the Indigo demonstration never happened, or that the accused York University staff had nothing to do with it. Rather, the gist is that using posters and red paint to accuse a bookstore CEO of genocide is not only “legitimate and necessary,” but should be defended by York University administrators.
“Many faculty members are outraged that the administration has suspended these individuals rather than defending them publicly,” York University associate professor Anna Zalik told The Canadian Press.
Zalik, who specializes in critical development studies, has been leading the effort to have the three staff members reinstated.
Indigo has long been a target of the Canadian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, a university-led effort to boycott any business with even peripheral connections to the State of Israel.
The cited reason for Indigo’s inclusion is Reisman’s co-founding of the HESEG Foundation, a Canadian-registered charity that funds the tuition of former “lone soldiers,” foreign volunteers for the Israeli Defense Forces.
This, according to an advisory for the planned Thursday demonstration, makes Indigo complicit in “war crimes,” a “genocidal campaign” and “profiteering from Israeli war crimes.”
The statement also denounced the Toronto Police for “grotesque use of inflammatory language” in accusing the alleged Nov. 10 vandalism of being connected to “hate.” A throughline in all the counter-demonstrations is the assertion that accusing Israel and its supporters of genocidal war criminality is not antisemitic.
“We know that fighting antisemitism requires fighting anti-Palestinian racism and all forms of interlocking oppressions; none of us will be free until all of us are free,” reads the advisory for the Klein-led Thursday protest.
Although police characterized the Nov. 10 incident as a “suspected hate-motivated offence,” none of the 11 were actually charged with hate crimes. The only two charges are mischief over $5,000 and conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. Both charges carry a maximum punishment of up to 10 years in prison, although penitentiary sentences for the offence are rare.
Following the Oct. 7 massacres in Israel, Canadian academia has produced a wave of statements and petitions excusing the attacks or celebrating them outright as a “decolonial resistance.”
Throughout, York University has consistently emerged as an unambiguous focal point. It was the York Federation of Students that issued a statement in the immediate aftermath of the massacres deeming them a “justified and necessary” act of “resistance.” “Chant sheets” distributed by the federation at protests also contain calls of “long live the intifada!,” a reference to violent Palestinian uprisings against Israel.
York University law faculty were disproportionately represented in a mid-November petition asserting that the massacres should be “contextualized,” rather than condemned.
And CUPE locals representing York University staff have issued multiple statements accusing Israel of “genocide” and “apartheid,” while making no mention whatsoever of the Oct. 7 massacres that sparked the current conflict. “We remain dedicated to fighting against Canada’s own settler-colonial violence,” reads one from Oct. 18.
The three suspended York University staffers are Lesley Wood, 56, a York University associate professor specializing in leftist protest movements. Her most recent paper is Counterprotest and Anti-Racist Solidarity in the Trump Era.
Sharmeen Khan, 45, a bookkeeper with the faculty union CUPE 3903 who, according to her Facebook page, coordinates “workshops to help people become activists.” And Stuart Schussler, 39, a graduate student whose personal blog details a career of activist work in Mexico, Ecuador and Chicago.
I'm sure you'd arrest Ingram for her hate speech demanding the same thing.
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Frankie, you're not reading the room. Most people would once have sympathized with Palestinians, but not after HAMAS just raped, tortured, murdered and kidnapped hundreds of innocents.
The "genocide" is being done by HAMAS. They blatantly state as much. You can share your silly views with the others in your "Activists' Socialist Anti Imperialist Discussion Workshop against Colonialism and Capitalist Oppression" and they'll tell you what a great guy you are. But views which go over well with academic lefties are going to fall flat with normal people in the non academic / non leftie politics world.
That's why most people now simply find you obsessive, shrill and silly.
Mandrill, you don't realize how small and isolated this room is. Outside of this room, and terb, most people who would have sympathized with Israelis have switched over. It started in 2021 with BLM marching with PLM, but the zionist defenders didn't notice. This time its a massive shift.
The genocide is entirely Israeli. Hamas surprised Israel and themselves on Oct 7 when they got outside of the concentration camp for the first time ever. Its not like they had any heavy weapons, they have no army and no tech. It was an accident they ran into the concert. The IDF was just too busy killing Palestinians and backing up settler attacks in the West Bank and thought Hamas was under control. In no way was it an existential attack.
The academic world is being rocked, funders vs students and more and more of staff. York is just one example.
You can share your Islamaphobic views of Palestinians here, and probably with a few of your very old drinking buddies. But try talking to someone under 30, if you dare.
Netanyahu will kill as many as he can until Biden finally listens to the Pope and stops him. Then Netanyahu is done, Biden is done and zionism becomes a word associated with genocide and racism. BDS will do what sanctions did to South Africa, it will end apartheid. Netanyahu brags about being the person to stop the two state solution and he's correct on that one, but he didn't listen to warnings from Ben Gurion, Barak and other Israeli PM's who said if you don't settle for the two state solution it becomes a battle for human rights.
And you're already at the point where you have to continually use your hatred of Palestinians to justify why you now against equal rights regardless of rights. How long can you take that stand? How long did South Africa?
You don't even notice how fucked it is that I'm on the side of the ICJ and you're the one calling them antisemites or biased or jew haters or something.
Keep pushing your anti-semitic Jewish conspiracy theories. It is laughable that you admit that Jews (like every other group) have varied opinions while still claiming that Jews control the US.
For a guy who claims to be anti-religion, you sure seem fixated on what an Islamic Extremist group and a Catholic leader have to say.
