Meet Argentina's new Far-Right President, Javier Milei

[jalimon]

Milei says he'll cut just about everything.

What's that saying?
Democracy is hard to build, easy to destroy.
Probably true with economies as well.

What the idiot right does not understand is that the economy is socialist. To thrive an economy needs social stability and peace.

Who will invest his own money when lead by a government ready to shut down the department of education, slash central banks, etc...

Only free market fundamentalist freak will salivate at the idea. Mostly because these people already have lot of money. It's MUCH easier to be a millionaire gambler then a regular folk gambler...

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1727718750227673104

 

[JohnLarue]

Populism is just fizz.

who mentioned Populism ?

The desire to have governments prudently manage the public purse and debt with regards for the future and regards for the taxpayer should not be labelled as anything other than "Responsible"

 

[JohnLarue]

What the idiot right does not understand is that the economy is socialist. To thrive an economy needs social stability and peace.

idealistic but wrong
WW2 pulled the economy out of the great depression

Who will invest his own money when lead by a government ready to shut down the department of education, slash central banks, etc...

Actually the question is
Who will invest his own money when lead by a government that spends without control , borrows to the max and over-regulates the economy
odds are you wont make much profit and they will need to increase your taxes to pay for their financial mis-management

Only free market fundamentalist freak will salivate at the idea. Mostly because these people already have lot of money. It's MUCH easier to be a millionaire gambler then a regular folk gambler...

you do not have a clue
there are new millionaires created very day via hustle, innovation, perseverance, risk taking and plain hard work
20+ million of them in the USA last time looked, could be 25+ or 30+ million of them by now
each of them employing other people , sometimes the major employer in a town

now if you do not posses any of the qualities required to start and run a successful business, that is fine
it is not for everyone

but do not attack the people who drive economic growth & provide you with the goods and services you demand and need to survive

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1727718750227673104

Only to be a fly on the wall for that meeting,lol.

 

[jalimon]

idealistic but wrong
WW2 pulled the economy out of the great depression


Actually the question is
Who will invest his own money when lead by a government that spends without control , borrows to the max and over-regulates the economy
odds are you wont make much profit and they will need to increase your taxes to pay for their financial mis-management



you do not have a clue
there are new millionaires created very day via hustle, innovation, perseverance, risk taking and plain hard work
20+ million of them in the USA last time looked, could be 25+ or 30+ million of them by now
each of them employing other people , sometimes the major employer in a town

now if you do not posses any of the qualities required to start and run a successful business, that is fine
it is not for everyone

but do not attack the people who drive economic growth & provide you with the goods and services you demand and need to survive

the stability gained after ww2 dude. Get the fact straight.

 

[JohnLarue]

the stability gained after ww2 dude. Get the fact straight.

do not misquote me

WW2 pulled the economy out of the great depression

this is an undisputed fact

stability? no there was tremendous economic growth instead


instead of learning useless left wing slogans, learn some economics

 

[jalimon]

do not misquote me

this is an undisputed fact

stability? no there was tremendous economic growth instead

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instead of learning useless left wing slogans, learn some economics

That is exactly what I wrote. The stability AFTER ww2 was the factor for growth. During ww2? Not so much.

 

[mandrill]

Argentina is a chronically unstable country which currently has a 140% annual inflation rate.

Slashing government departments will perhaps lower inflation in that it drastically deflates government spending. But it may also NOT do that. And it will further de stabilize Argentinean politics. So I suspect it will be a shit show.

 

[Insidious Von]

Is the UK going down the Argentina pie hole?

 

[JohnLarue]

That is exactly what I wrote. The stability AFTER ww2 was the factor for growth. During ww2? Not so much.

nice try, but wrong again
full employment was achieved during the war



same for GDP growth



why do you insist on being ignorant of the facts and drawing incorrect conclusions based on your failed ideology ?

why do you insists on attacking the people who drive economic growth & provide you with the goods and services you demand and need to survive

 

[mandrill]

Argentina's Milei no 'Trump of the Pampas', analysts say (msn.com)

 

[Frankfooter]

Argentina is a chronically unstable country which currently has a 140% annual inflation rate.

Slashing government departments will perhaps lower inflation in that it drastically deflates government spending. But it may also NOT do that. And it will further de stabilize Argentinean politics. So I suspect it will be a shit show.

Disaster capitalism.

 

[Not getting younger]

yep
the timing of how long things will continue to decline is up to deadmeat Singh

I have heard Justin is preparing for a spring 2024 election. I find this difficult to understand given his polling results
The only possible rational is he knows the economy will crater in Q2/24 and into 2025

again his decisions are based on what he thinks is best for him rather than what is best for Canadians

Is it really? All polls, even their own show they are toast and his name is mud. We can’t even discount the possibility the party will turf him…..as they did McGuinty. Possibly Chrétien. Recent actions aimed at traditional Liberal strongholds ( Bail, home heating oil ) are blatant desperate attempts to regain some ground. And clear sign of administration in panic mode given the topics, past staunch refusal to budge away.

Theres little bit dark storm clouds on the horizon. That, if any roll in will is just be more mud on his face for fiscal mismanagement and ammunition for the Cons.

If he/they can be so crass as to call a snap election, thinking he had a majority in the bag…what’s better, roll the dice on a minority or humiliating con majority in 2025. Th first link is from August. Since then polling has only gotten worse.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6950223

If not now, when can Canadians expect an election?

The current Parliament could last until 2025, but insiders and observers say it likely won't.

www.politico.com

the stability gained after ww2 dude. Get the fact straight.

Industry, like factories churning out munitions, tanks ships and far more to feed the war machines is what pulled the world out of the Great Depression

 

[pavel bure]

This is very relevant to Canadians if they want a true picture of Poilievre:
Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre
Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

Canadians deserve better from their media. They deserve to know where Poilievre stands on major issues of the day, rather than having their media merely parrot, unquestionably, his criticisms of Trudeau.
That doesn’t mean being seen as shills for the Liberals or giving up any sense of journalistic fairness, which in itself might be a fresh concept for the National Post and Toronto Sun, both of which are openly hostile to Trudeau, filling their pages and websites with pro-Poilievre pieces. The Globe and Mail, CTV and even the CBC aren’t much better on some days.
But it’s the media’s job to lay it all on the line with readers and viewers about Poilievre. That’s because Poilievre has played many different roles during his career — from political attack dog for Stephen Harper to champion of “freedom loving” trucker convoys — and because many of his past views and actions have been disturbing, if not outright dangerous.
As prime minister would Poilievre still embrace the controversial use of bitcoin, which he has in the past? Would he still march with anarchistic truckers blocking streets and highways? Would he ignore medical experts on the need for vaccine mandates if COVID rears up again? How would he deal with Quebec’s demands to give it more special powers?

How would he balance the budget while reducing taxes? What programs would he cut? How would he fix grocery prices? What would he do about housing, the economy, climate change?
What can the media do?
True, it’s hard for news outlets to pin down Poilievre when he refuses to speak with reporters and flatly refuses to offer solutions to what ails Canada.

Bob Hepburn: Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre

Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

www.thestar.com

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702442099814342725

Great interview by tucker.

 

[Frankfooter]

Garden variety populism.

This was a hilarious interview.

Tucker: "..Lebanon and Zimbabwe that are not even real countries". Really?

And then the guy talks about how climate change initiatives enable abortion. That the pope supports murderers. That he won't do business with China, but Argentinians are free to choose to trade with China. Wut! It's his policies that enable trade with China!

He'll last one term and leave the country in a shittier situation.
Same as all the other populists.

 

[Not getting younger]

This is very relevant to Canadians if they want a true picture of Poilievre:
Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre
Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

Bob Hepburn: Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre

Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

www.thestar.com

Lol……
1) Are Canadians on the whole, numerically somewhat left of center? Yes we are. See relatively recent trends of “right wing” politics moving closer to center, and left wing politics moving further away from somewhat left of center….See 100 years of somewhat left of center policy. Some could/might be able to make a reasonable argument we are closer to a social democratic soceity than we are capitalist ( the US)

2) As such, what do you think the media reflects on the whole and vice versa. Some argue the media influences…some argue the media is in the business of sales.

3) Your using an op-Ed from the Star….as far left as the Sun is right. Ying/yang


4) In that OP-ED the author only names two “right wing” outlets…see point #1 and #2

5) given all the above and without getting too far into “what about ism”…who gets the balance of the free passes, soft questions being treated with kiddie gloves etc?

???

 

[Butler1000]

This is very relevant to Canadians if they want a true picture of Poilievre:
Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre
Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

Bob Hepburn: Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre

Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

www.thestar.com

Poilievre gets international attention for apple-eating viral moment | RCI

One observer says the exchange is 'reaching a lot of people'

ici.radio-canada.ca

They are too scared now. This is the famous one but others are out there. They go with stupid instead of substantive.

 

[JohnLarue]

This is very relevant to Canadians if they want a true picture of Poilievre:
Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre
Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

Bob Hepburn: Media fails Canadians by giving a free pass to Pierre Poilievre

Canadian media has failed to provide Canadians with a clear picture of what a Poilievre government would look like.

www.thestar.com

and the Toronto Star immediately repays their benefactor right after receiving their new bribe by attacking the liberals political opponent
I guess the new bribe came with a timetable for attacks on Justin's political opponent

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2023/11/22/liberals-legacy-media-bailout-funds/

Liberals lavish legacy media with $129 million more in bailout funds

This hefty top up is in addition to the $600 million media bailout announced in 2019, sparking concerns about government influence over journalism.

Effective January 1, 2023, the federal government aims to boost the yearly limit on labor costs that can be claimed per eligible employee from $55,000 to $85,000.

There are lots of Canadians & several sectors which are struggling now
yet the liberals choose to give the legacy media reporters an incremental $30K hand out on top of the grotesque $55K bribe they already receive

the average Canadian Income is $54,000

Income of individuals by age group, sex and income source, Canada, provinces and selected census metropolitan areas

Income of individuals by age group, sex and income source, Canada, provinces and selected census metropolitan areas, annual.

www150.statcan.gc.ca

oh yeah the food banks are struggling to meet increased demand
But Justin choose to give extra money to the media he already bribes

So if you are employed in the gas/ oil , fishing, logging, farming, mining, hospitality or manufacturing industries your job security/ compensation is determined by the free market, and the management skills of your specific employer.

However if you are employed in the legacy media, your job is consider so important to Justin Trudeaus image / retention of power it requires a new bribe, with more taxpayer dollars no less

This is criminal, evil and very dangerous
Having the media in the pocket of a single political party undermines democracy

no political party should even consider subsidizing the media , simply because the optics are soo bad

It also illustrates how little respect Justin Trudeau & the liberals have for the intelligence of the electorate

"pavel bure" What is your excuse to turning a blind eye to such an insult to your intelligence by your liberal party ?

it must be too difficult to even consider your views may have been targeted and influenced by a bribe you are funding

Job #1 for Pierre Poilievre ... kill the carbon tax
Job #2 for Pierre Poilievre ... kill the media bribe

for the benefit of all Canadians