Canadians With A Conscience Denounce Zionist "McCarthyism"

niniveh

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Oh really? Sorry I didn’t know that.
Since you seem to be so well informed, can I ask a question? Will the civilians who die in Gaza get their 72 virgins or is it only for those who died with weapons in their hands?
I can understand that. It is easy to go from "I don't know that" to "Ergo, it doesn't exist". But you don't have to believe me; just heed the cries of the families of hostages who have been loud and clear.
 

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I can understand that. It is easy to go from "I don't know that" to "Ergo, it doesn't exist". But you don't have to believe me; just heed the cries of the families of hostages who have been loud and clear.
The state cannot accept an “offer” that gives terrorists an incentive to take more hostages. Nobody negotiates with terrorists from the position of weakness. There can be no deals made that would make them happy. They only understand brute force and they should be spoken to in a language they understand. Israel has been doing those unequal exchanges and here’s the result.
 

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The state cannot accept an “offer” that gives terrorists an incentive to take more hostages. Nobody negotiates with terrorists from the position of weakness. There can be no deals made that would make them happy. They only understand brute force and they should be spoken to in a language they understand. Israel has been doing those unequal exchanges and here’s the result.
Every state regurgitates such nonsense in their public pronouncements. Privately, they ALL negotiate for hostages.
 

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Every state regurgitates such nonsense in their public pronouncements. Privately, they ALL negotiate for hostages.
Yeah that may be but I like how IDF is negotiating in the open right now
 

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There has been a standing offer since day 1 for release of hostages.
Right, I'm sure you believe that. Sorry but Hamas has not offered to release all of their hostages. Why would they because they just went to the effort to kidnap those old ladies and infants.
 

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Every state regurgitates such nonsense in their public pronouncements. Privately, they ALL negotiate for hostages.
Israel has always negotiated for the release of their people including negotiating for the remains of their people. At the same time, there is no way they will happily reward Hamas for kidnapping a bunch of civilians.
 

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The state cannot accept an “offer” that gives terrorists an incentive to take more hostages. Nobody negotiates with terrorists from the position of weakness. There can be no deals made that would make them happy. They only understand brute force and they should be spoken to in a language they understand. Israel has been doing those unequal exchanges and here’s the result.
In other words, it doesn't matter if there was an offer because Netanyahu had genocide on his mind.
 

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Israel has always negotiated for the release of their people including negotiating for the remains of their people. At the same time, there is no way they will happily reward Hamas for kidnapping a bunch of civilians.
In other words, it doesn't matter if there was an offer because Netanyahu had genocide on his mind.
 

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Everyone over here needs to remember no one in the Middle East cares about what you think or denounce.
You’re all just posturing and signaling.
None of it makes a difference.
 

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Everyone over here needs to remember no one in the Middle East cares about what you think or denounce.
You’re all just posturing and signaling.
None of it makes a difference.
It does make a big difference.
Only Trudeau and Biden back Israel now.
If we can get Trudeau to respect the law that will effect Biden.
And only Biden can stop Netanyahu now.

 

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It does make a big difference.
Only Trudeau and Biden back Israel now.
If we can get Trudeau to respect the law that will effect Biden.
And only Biden can stop Netanyahu now.

Harvard Professors Challenge Univ. Prez

Instead of confronting head-on the threats from billionaires to long held "University Values", President Gay folded cravenly.


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Dear President Gay:

As Harvard faculty, we have been astonished by the pressure from donors, alumni, and even some on this campus to silence faculty, students, and staff critical of the actions of the State of Israel. It is important to acknowledge the patronizing tone and format of much of the criticism you have received as well as the outright racism contained in some of it.

We were nevertheless profoundly dismayed by your November 9 message entitled “Combating Antisemitism.” The University's commitment to intellectual freedom and open dialogue seems to be giving way to something else entirely: a model of education in which the meaning of terms once eligible for interpretation is prescribed from above by a committee whose work was, on Tuesday, described to the faculty as only beginning.

There should surely be limits to what is speakable, even in a university. Saying things that are plainly untrue – denying the Holocaust, for example – merits condemnation. Derogating other members of the community in racist, xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic language merits condemnation.

There must, however, be room on a university campus for debate about the actions of states, including of the State of Israel. It cannot be ruled as ipso facto antisemitic to question the actions of this particular ethno-nationalist government any more than it would be ipso facto racist to question the actions of Robert Mugabe's ethno-nationalist government in Zimbabwe. Nor can arguments that characterize Israel as an “apartheid" state or its recent actions as “ethnic cleansing” or even “genocide” be considered automatically antisemitic, regardless of whether one concurs with such arguments. The University’s recently-announced “Discrimination and Bullying Policies and Procedures,” it is useful to remember, includes “political belief” (and thus presumably its expression) as a protected category.

It is understandable that in the shadow of the twentieth-century history of Europe, Palestine, and Israel, as well as the attacks of October 7 and the ongoing catastrophe in Gaza, you would want to remind members of our community that their words have meaning. And yet, at a moment when an affiliate of the University has with apparent impunity stood in the yard and accused students of supporting terrorism, your delineation of the limits of acceptable expression on our campus is dangerously one-sided.

Similarly, the phrase "from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free" has a long and complicated history. Its interpretation deserves, and is receiving, sustained and ongoing inquiry and debate. Singling it out as necessarily implying removalism or even eliminationism – when over a million Palestinians have been forced from their homes and over ten thousand civilians, including four thousand children, have been slain in Gaza, actions which the Holocaust historian Omer Bartov suggests in the New York Times may amount to a “crime against humanity” being executed with “genocidal intent” – is imprudent as a matter of university policy and badly misjudged as an act of moral leadership.

We call on you to present a balanced commitment to the support of intellectual freedom at Harvard by taking the following steps:

  1. Resisting calls to suspend and/or decertify the Palestine Solidarity Committee in retaliation for its public statements and advocacy, and resisting calls to set aside the University’s normal disciplinary procedures to prematurely sanction students and employees because of concerns raised about their political activity absent specific allegations of wrongdoing (and those already thusly sanctioned must be reinstated pending a procedurally sound investigation);
  2. Directing the President’s Advisory Group on Antisemitism to explain its definition of antisemitism to the University community, as requested at the FAS faculty meeting of November 7, before recommending any policies touching upon the freedom of thought and expression on our campus;
  3. Explicitly and specifically affirming the University’s commitment to the freedom of thought, inquiry, and expression in light of the extraordinary pressure being brought to bear upon critics of the State of Israel and advocates of the Palestinian people, and indicating that there can be no tolerance for a “Palestine exception” to free speech;
  4. Creating an advisory group on Islamophobia and anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab racism (as suggested at the FAS faculty meeting of November 7).
Sincerely,

  1. Walter Johnson, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  2. Kirsten Weld, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  3. Vijay Iyer, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  4. Deidre Lynch, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  5. Nikolas Bowie, Harvard Law School
  6. Diane Moore, Harvard Divinity School
  7. Namwali Serpell, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  8. Khalil Gibran Muhammad, Harvard Kennedy School
  9. Sidney Chalhoub, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  10. Christopher Hasty, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  11. Salma Abu Ayyash, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  12. Jesse B. Bump, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  13. Ryan D. Doerfler, Harvard Law School
  14. Atalia Omer, Harvard Divinity School
  15. Bram Wispelwey, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health and Harvard Medical School
  16. Sara Roy, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  17. Lucien Castaing-Taylor, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  18. Neel Mukherjee, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  19. Margareta Matache, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  20. Soham Patel, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  21. John Womack, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  22. Musa Syeed, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  23. Jacinda Tran, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  24. Vincent Brown, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  25. Adhy Kim, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  26. Richard Thomas, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  27. Lara Jirmanus, Harvard Medical School
  28. Altaf Saadi, Harvard Medical School
  29. Hibah Osman, Harvard Medical School
  30. Lisa Thompson, Harvard School of Dental Medicine
  31. Khameer Kidia, Harvard Medical School
  32. Mary T Bassett, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  33. Sawsan Abdulrahim, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  34. Cemal Kafadar, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  35. Lauren Kaminsky, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  36. Amy Hollywood, Harvard Divinity School
  37. Malak Rafla, Harvard Medical School
  38. Bassima Abdallah, Harvard Medical School
  39. Alejandra Caraballo, Harvard Law School
  40. Eleanor Craig, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  41. Matylda Figlerowicz, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  42. Adam Haber, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  43. Tara K. Menon, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  44. Arunabh Ghosh, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  45. Joel Suarez, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  46. Karameh Kuemmerle, Harvard Medical School
  47. Sam Marks, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  48. Rosie Bsheer, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  49. Nader Uthman, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  50. Glenda Carpio, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  51. Adaner Usmani, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  52. Paulina Alberto, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  53. Sarah Darghouth, Harvard Medical School
  54. Alisa Khan, Harvard Medical School
  55. Patricia Stoeck, Harvard Medical School
  56. Hajirah Saeex, Harvard Medical School
  57. Sherar Andalcio, Harvard Medical School
  58. Diana L. Eck, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  59. Gordon Schiff, Harvard Medical School
  60. Mahmoud Abu Hazeem, Harvard Medical School
  61. Rania El Fekih, Harvard Medical School
  62. Hicham Skali, Harvard Medical School
  63. Ramona Dvorak, Harvard Medical School
  64. Kamal Itani, Harvard Medical School
  65. Haytham Kaafarani, Harvard Medical School
  66. Ousmane Kane, Harvard Divinity School
  67. David U. Himmelstein, Harvard Medical School
  68. Joycelyn Ronda, Harvard Medical School
  69. Christian Williams, Harvard Law School
  70. Steffie Woodhandler, Harvard Medical School
  71. Ju Yon Kim, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  72. M. Amin Arnaout, Harvard Medical School
  73. Autumn Allen, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  74. Avik Chatterjee, Harvard Medical School
  75. Farhana Sharmeen, Harvard Medical School
  76. Duncan Kennedy, Harvard Law School
  77. Aisha James, Harvard Medical School
  78. Corey Hardin, Harvard Medical School
  79. Caroline Light, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  80. Karen Huang, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  81. George Aumoithe, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  82. Michelle Morse, Harvard Medical School
  83. Sadeq Rahimi, Harvard Medical School
  84. Sugata Bose, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  85. Lorenzo Bondioli, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  86. Michael Bronski, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  87. David Kennedy, Harvard Law School
  88. Christina Villarreal, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  89. Hilary Rantisi, Harvard Divinity School
  90. Kassem Safa, Harvard Medical School
  91. Huma Farid, Harvard Medical School
  92. Bernhard Nickel, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  93. Amanda Raffoul, Harvard Medical School
  94. Martha Ann Selby, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  95. Marshall Ganz, Harvard Kennedy School
  96. Amir Mohareb, Harvard Medical School
  97. Eman Ansari, Harvard Medical School
  98. Mohamed Jarraya, Harvard Medical School
  99. Liz McKenna, Harvard Kennedy School
  100. Maggie Doherty, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  101. Hussein Rashid, Harvard Divinity School
  102. Juliana Morris, Harvard Medical School
  103. Sandra Smith, Harvard Kennedy School
  104. Kaia Stern, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  105. Nicholas Bloom, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  106. Theodore Weatherwax, Harvard Medical School
  107. Rita Hamad, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  108. Emmet von Stackelberg, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  109. Areej Hassan, Harvard Medical School
  110. David Showalter, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  111. Amina Elbendary, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  112. Pedja Stojicic, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  113. Ryan Enos, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  114. Raif S. Geha, Harvard Medical School
  115. Chance Bonar, Harvard Divinity School
  116. Nikhil Mathews, Harvard Medical School
  117. Hesham Hamoda, Harvard Medical School
  118. Talal Chatila, Harvard Medical School
  119. Jennifer Leaning, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  120. Gretchen Brion-Meisels, Harvard Graduate School of Education
 

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The dangers of weaponizing antisemitism.

you should be decrying the dangers of appeasing and trying to justify the murderous barbarism of Hamas. But then again apart from effectively holding Gaza hostage and building tunnels and Rockets instead of a country they only murder, rape, beheld Jews including babies the elderly the infirm.
 

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Harvard Professors Challenge Univ. Prez

Instead of confronting head-on the threats from billionaires to long held "University Values", President Gay folded cravenly.


Harvard Faculty Statement In Support of Academic Freedom
Academic Freedom Faculty Statement
Academic Freedom Faculty Statement

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Dear President Gay:

As Harvard faculty, we have been astonished by the pressure from donors, alumni, and even some on this campus to silence faculty, students, and staff critical of the actions of the State of Israel. It is important to acknowledge the patronizing tone and format of much of the criticism you have received as well as the outright racism contained in some of it.

We were nevertheless profoundly dismayed by your November 9 message entitled “Combating Antisemitism.” The University's commitment to intellectual freedom and open dialogue seems to be giving way to something else entirely: a model of education in which the meaning of terms once eligible for interpretation is prescribed from above by a committee whose work was, on Tuesday, described to the faculty as only beginning.

There should surely be limits to what is speakable, even in a university. Saying things that are plainly untrue – denying the Holocaust, for example – merits condemnation. Derogating other members of the community in racist, xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic language merits condemnation.

There must, however, be room on a university campus for debate about the actions of states, including of the State of Israel. It cannot be ruled as ipso facto antisemitic to question the actions of this particular ethno-nationalist government any more than it would be ipso facto racist to question the actions of Robert Mugabe's ethno-nationalist government in Zimbabwe. Nor can arguments that characterize Israel as an “apartheid" state or its recent actions as “ethnic cleansing” or even “genocide” be considered automatically antisemitic, regardless of whether one concurs with such arguments. The University’s recently-announced “Discrimination and Bullying Policies and Procedures,” it is useful to remember, includes “political belief” (and thus presumably its expression) as a protected category.

It is understandable that in the shadow of the twentieth-century history of Europe, Palestine, and Israel, as well as the attacks of October 7 and the ongoing catastrophe in Gaza, you would want to remind members of our community that their words have meaning. And yet, at a moment when an affiliate of the University has with apparent impunity stood in the yard and accused students of supporting terrorism, your delineation of the limits of acceptable expression on our campus is dangerously one-sided.

Similarly, the phrase "from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free" has a long and complicated history. Its interpretation deserves, and is receiving, sustained and ongoing inquiry and debate. Singling it out as necessarily implying removalism or even eliminationism – when over a million Palestinians have been forced from their homes and over ten thousand civilians, including four thousand children, have been slain in Gaza, actions which the Holocaust historian Omer Bartov suggests in the New York Times may amount to a “crime against humanity” being executed with “genocidal intent” – is imprudent as a matter of university policy and badly misjudged as an act of moral leadership.

We call on you to present a balanced commitment to the support of intellectual freedom at Harvard by taking the following steps:

  1. Resisting calls to suspend and/or decertify the Palestine Solidarity Committee in retaliation for its public statements and advocacy, and resisting calls to set aside the University’s normal disciplinary procedures to prematurely sanction students and employees because of concerns raised about their political activity absent specific allegations of wrongdoing (and those already thusly sanctioned must be reinstated pending a procedurally sound investigation);
  2. Directing the President’s Advisory Group on Antisemitism to explain its definition of antisemitism to the University community, as requested at the FAS faculty meeting of November 7, before recommending any policies touching upon the freedom of thought and expression on our campus;
  3. Explicitly and specifically affirming the University’s commitment to the freedom of thought, inquiry, and expression in light of the extraordinary pressure being brought to bear upon critics of the State of Israel and advocates of the Palestinian people, and indicating that there can be no tolerance for a “Palestine exception” to free speech;
  4. Creating an advisory group on Islamophobia and anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab racism (as suggested at the FAS faculty meeting of November 7).
Sincerely,

  1. Walter Johnson, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  2. Kirsten Weld, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  3. Vijay Iyer, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  4. Deidre Lynch, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  5. Nikolas Bowie, Harvard Law School
  6. Diane Moore, Harvard Divinity School
  7. Namwali Serpell, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  8. Khalil Gibran Muhammad, Harvard Kennedy School
  9. Sidney Chalhoub, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  10. Christopher Hasty, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  11. Salma Abu Ayyash, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  12. Jesse B. Bump, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  13. Ryan D. Doerfler, Harvard Law School
  14. Atalia Omer, Harvard Divinity School
  15. Bram Wispelwey, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health and Harvard Medical School
  16. Sara Roy, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  17. Lucien Castaing-Taylor, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  18. Neel Mukherjee, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  19. Margareta Matache, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  20. Soham Patel, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  21. John Womack, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  22. Musa Syeed, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  23. Jacinda Tran, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  24. Vincent Brown, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  25. Adhy Kim, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  26. Richard Thomas, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  27. Lara Jirmanus, Harvard Medical School
  28. Altaf Saadi, Harvard Medical School
  29. Hibah Osman, Harvard Medical School
  30. Lisa Thompson, Harvard School of Dental Medicine
  31. Khameer Kidia, Harvard Medical School
  32. Mary T Bassett, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  33. Sawsan Abdulrahim, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  34. Cemal Kafadar, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  35. Lauren Kaminsky, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  36. Amy Hollywood, Harvard Divinity School
  37. Malak Rafla, Harvard Medical School
  38. Bassima Abdallah, Harvard Medical School
  39. Alejandra Caraballo, Harvard Law School
  40. Eleanor Craig, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  41. Matylda Figlerowicz, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  42. Adam Haber, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  43. Tara K. Menon, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  44. Arunabh Ghosh, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  45. Joel Suarez, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  46. Karameh Kuemmerle, Harvard Medical School
  47. Sam Marks, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  48. Rosie Bsheer, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  49. Nader Uthman, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  50. Glenda Carpio, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  51. Adaner Usmani, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  52. Paulina Alberto, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  53. Sarah Darghouth, Harvard Medical School
  54. Alisa Khan, Harvard Medical School
  55. Patricia Stoeck, Harvard Medical School
  56. Hajirah Saeex, Harvard Medical School
  57. Sherar Andalcio, Harvard Medical School
  58. Diana L. Eck, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  59. Gordon Schiff, Harvard Medical School
  60. Mahmoud Abu Hazeem, Harvard Medical School
  61. Rania El Fekih, Harvard Medical School
  62. Hicham Skali, Harvard Medical School
  63. Ramona Dvorak, Harvard Medical School
  64. Kamal Itani, Harvard Medical School
  65. Haytham Kaafarani, Harvard Medical School
  66. Ousmane Kane, Harvard Divinity School
  67. David U. Himmelstein, Harvard Medical School
  68. Joycelyn Ronda, Harvard Medical School
  69. Christian Williams, Harvard Law School
  70. Steffie Woodhandler, Harvard Medical School
  71. Ju Yon Kim, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  72. M. Amin Arnaout, Harvard Medical School
  73. Autumn Allen, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  74. Avik Chatterjee, Harvard Medical School
  75. Farhana Sharmeen, Harvard Medical School
  76. Duncan Kennedy, Harvard Law School
  77. Aisha James, Harvard Medical School
  78. Corey Hardin, Harvard Medical School
  79. Caroline Light, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  80. Karen Huang, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  81. George Aumoithe, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  82. Michelle Morse, Harvard Medical School
  83. Sadeq Rahimi, Harvard Medical School
  84. Sugata Bose, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  85. Lorenzo Bondioli, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  86. Michael Bronski, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  87. David Kennedy, Harvard Law School
  88. Christina Villarreal, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  89. Hilary Rantisi, Harvard Divinity School
  90. Kassem Safa, Harvard Medical School
  91. Huma Farid, Harvard Medical School
  92. Bernhard Nickel, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  93. Amanda Raffoul, Harvard Medical School
  94. Martha Ann Selby, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  95. Marshall Ganz, Harvard Kennedy School
  96. Amir Mohareb, Harvard Medical School
  97. Eman Ansari, Harvard Medical School
  98. Mohamed Jarraya, Harvard Medical School
  99. Liz McKenna, Harvard Kennedy School
  100. Maggie Doherty, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  101. Hussein Rashid, Harvard Divinity School
  102. Juliana Morris, Harvard Medical School
  103. Sandra Smith, Harvard Kennedy School
  104. Kaia Stern, Harvard Graduate School of Education
  105. Nicholas Bloom, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  106. Theodore Weatherwax, Harvard Medical School
  107. Rita Hamad, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  108. Emmet von Stackelberg, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  109. Areej Hassan, Harvard Medical School
  110. David Showalter, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  111. Amina Elbendary, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  112. Pedja Stojicic, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  113. Ryan Enos, Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences
  114. Raif S. Geha, Harvard Medical School
  115. Chance Bonar, Harvard Divinity School
  116. Nikhil Mathews, Harvard Medical School
  117. Hesham Hamoda, Harvard Medical School
  118. Talal Chatila, Harvard Medical School
  119. Jennifer Leaning, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health
  120. Gretchen Brion-Meisels, Harvard Graduate School of Education
This article is pretty shocking, with an Israeli government official saying the silent part out loud, claiming that unless US universities do what the Israeli government wants them to do, shut down Palestine protests, they will shut down funding.

Nir Barkat, Israel’s minister of economy and industry, is warning American universities to crack down on antisemitism.

“Schools that prioritize taking money instead of doing what’s right and doing good are going to have a serious problem,” Barkat told CNN on Thursday.

Speaking from a Manhattan hotel, Barkat said his recent conversations with lawmakers during his trip to the United States suggest there will be legislative efforts to crack down on antisemitism on campus.


“You’re going to see many funders of Ivy League and other universities shy away from that behavior,” he said.

Barkat argued that schools that failed to fight antisemitism are “going to be paying a heavy price for that.”


 

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you should be decrying the dangers of appeasing and trying to justify the murderous barbarism of Hamas. But then again apart from effectively holding Gaza hostage and building tunnels and Rockets instead of a country they only murder, rape, beheld Jews including babies the elderly the infirm.
Hostage?

How about building prison walls manned with snipers around Gaza?
That doesn't make them hostages of Israel?
How about the 17 year long, illegal blockade?

 

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Decrying Hamas is low hanging fruit and not valuable.

Decrying Israeli racism, oppression, war crimes and the dehumanization of the Palestinians, and fundamentally rethinking political Zionism, and what it means for future Israelis and Palestinians is the need of the day. That will lead to long term peace and not reactionary exercises in decrying terror groups that have formed as a result of said oppression.
Meanwhile Here In Canada...


A List Of Some People In Canada Fired For Pro-Palestine Views
In recent weeks, many people in Canada have been investigated, suspended and/or fired by their employer for posting about Palestine.
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Davide Mastracci
by Davide Mastracci
November 10, 2023 ∙ 11 min read
A List Of Some People In Canada Fired For Pro-Palestine Views

Photo via Beyzaa Yurtkuran on Pexels.
In recent weeks, many people within Canada have been investigated, suspended and/or fired by their employer for expressing pro-Palestine views on social media and elsewhere. The Maple intends to document and share as many examples of such cases — where the person was disciplined for posts or comments made on or after October 7 — as possible.
To start, I’ve compiled particularly well known incidents that have already been made public. Based on preliminary tips we’ve received from human rights organizations and lawyers, we know the cases below are just a fraction of the overall incidents. For example, here’s how an open letter from legal organizations described the state of retaliation in that industry: “Lawyers are openly advocating on social media to blacklist law students and lawyers who have voiced support for Palestine; Lawyers are contacting the employers of lawyers and encouraging they be fired for their pro-Palestinian advocacy. Law firms (many of which issued unprecedented, political statements in support of Israel) are rescinding interview offers to students who sign open letters condemning Israel. Law schools are threatening those students with expulsion.”
However, non-public examples will take time and resources to research and share, so I’ve chosen to put this out for now while The Maple team continues our work to create a more comprehensive resource.
The incidents below are listed in alphabetical order, and each one contains the name of the person, their position, their employer, the status of the action against them and what happened. Confirmed incidents where the targeted people have remained anonymous are listed at the end.
If you know of any more incidents, and/or have been personally investigated, suspended, or fired by your employer due to expressing pro-Palestine views since October 7, please get in touch with us at opinion@readthemaple.com
This list will be updated going forward.
Zahraa Al-Akhrass
  • Position: Online video journalist
  • Employer: Global News
  • Status: Fired
On October 17, Global News fired Zahraa Al-Akhrass for pro-Palestine posts she made on social media.
Here are a couple of the posts she cited as being brought up in her employer’s talks with her:


On October 29, Al-Akhrass posted about the incident on her Instagram page.
On November 1, she posted about it again, this time writing, “My termination of employment was with cause, meaning the company wasn’t legally required to pay me any severance, however, I was offered an amount of money to stay quiet and not go public with my story. This is only to further silence me and I find myself forced to use say it in public in defense of some accusations being circulated to discredit me. This pattern of oppression of Palestinian voices must stop.”
Al-Akhrass has since stated that she is filing a lawsuit against Global for firing her while she was on maternity leave.
Aarij Anwer
  • Position: Muslim chaplain
  • Employer: Western University
  • Status: Fired
On October 26, Western University announced that Sh. Aarij Anwer would be removed from his volunteer position where he counselled and supported Muslim students because of a comment he made online. The comment is below:

Anwer has since tweeted that he is “considering all legal options available.”
Sabreina Dahab
  • Position: School board trustee
  • Employer: Hamilton-Wentworth District School Board
  • Status: Investigation
On November 14, Hamilton-Wentworth District School Board trustee Sabreina Dahab released a statement noting, “At the end of October, the Hamilton-Wentworth District School Board of Trustees launched an external investigation into my social media activity as it relates to my posts on Palestine, alleging that my advocacy is a breach of the Trustee Code of Conduct. I am concerned that this investigation is an attempt to silence me for my vocal condemnation of Israeli apartheid and reprimand me for my posts about protests that were calling for the end to the siege of Gaza.”
The statement didn’t specify the posts in question, but news reporting on the incident mentioned the following tweet from Dahab as an example:

Dahab’s statement adds, “As this investigation is underway, I have been advised by my legal counsel to not make any further comments as it relates to the alleged breach of the code of conduct. I will provide updates at the appropriate time.”
The school board has declined to comment on specifics of the investigation.
Javier Dávila
  • Position: Student equity adviser
  • Employer: Toronto District School Board
  • Status: Suspended
On November 13, Toronto District School Board (TDSB) student equity adviser Javier Dávila tweeted, “I was just suspended from my job at [TDSB] & put under investigation. This happened minutes after I called out [Centre For Israel and Jewish Affairs] for fabricating lies about students at [Marc Garneau Collegiate Institute] & for the TDSB not publicly standing up for its students who received threats. I refuse to be complicit.”
Dávila sent several tweets earlier that day in support of students from the school that had walked out in protest demanding a ceasefire.
Here are a couple of them:


Dávila later noted on Twitter, “This is the 4th time I've been suspended by the TDSB for supporting Palestinian liberation. I’ve been investigated by their Human Rights Office, employee services, the Integrity Commissioner, the Ontario College of Teachers and Toronto Police and cleared each time. I won’t stop!”
The TDSB has yet to comment on the suspension.
Mostafa Ezzo
  • Position: Pilot
  • Employer: Air Canada
  • Status: Fired
On October 10, Air Canada announced that pilot Mostafa Ezzo had been “taken out of service” the day before due to “unacceptable posts.” In the days prior, four screenshots of posts by Ezzo were spread online by pro-Israel groups. Those screenshots have been included below.




Sarah Jama
  • Position: MPP
  • Party: Ontario NDP
  • Status: Removed from caucus and censured in the legislature
On October 23, the Ontario legislature voted to censure Sarah Jama, who was also kicked out of the Ontario NDP’s caucus that day.
The controversy began on October 10 when Jama tweeted the following statement calling for a ceasefire:

The ONDP, which now supports a ceasefire, forced Jama to apologize the next day. Jama is now sitting as an independent MPP that isn’t able to speak in the legislature. She has announced that she will challenge the censure, and also threatened to sue Ontario Premier Doug Ford for allegedly defamatory comments he made about her.
Yara Jamal
  • Position: Web writer and production assistant
  • Employer: CTV Atlantic
  • Status: Fired
On October 26, a CTV News spokesperson told the Toronto Sun: “While we don’t comment on specific staffing matters we can confirm that Yara Jamal is no longer with CTV News.” On October 22, Jamal had attended a pro-Palestine protest in downtown Halifax. She was interviewed by a journalist from the SaltWire Network, and is quoted as follows: “‘Jews can continue to exist, the Zionist ideology cannot,’ said Yara Jamal of Free Palestine Halifax which organized the march. Pressed for whether by ‘Zionist ideology’ she meant Israel, she said, ‘The state, no, cannot exist.’” Several pro-Israel groups targeted Jamal after this.
In an October 26 Instagram post on the Free Palestine Halifax page, Jamal wrote, “Recently, a SaltWire journalist decided to take a quote out of context. I was asked if Jews can exist in a Free Palestine in which I had replied saying, ‘Jews can exist, Zionist ideology cannot.’ Elaborating on what I meant by Zionist ideology, I told the journalist I meant the state of Israel. Israel is labeled by many reputable human rights organizations as an apartheid state. When international and national world leaders call Palestinians ‘animals’ and Israeli politicians call for the extermination of Palestinians it is not publicized, but when a Palestinian says ‘a Free Palestine cannot exist with an apartheid, Zionist state’ it is publicized as anti-Semitic.”
Natalie Knight
  • Position: English instructor
  • Employer: Langara College
  • Status: Placed on leave
On October 31, Langara College announced that they had placed Natalie Knight on leave and launched an investigation into her conduct. On October 28, Knight had given a speech at a pro-Palestine rally in Vancouver. The full, three-minute speech can be viewed here.

The pro-Israeli Jewish Federation of Greater Vancouver has called for Knight to be fired.
Shumail Mian
  • Position: Constable
  • Employer: Toronto Police Service
  • Status: Under investigation
On October 12, Toronto Police Service spokesperson Stephanie Sayer told press that their Professional Standards department was investigating Shumail Mian for a post on social media. The Toronto Sun described the post as showing “a cartoon of media cameras videoing an Israeli man wearing a blue shirt and Star of David chain while on the other side of the border in ‘Gaza’ there are severed bodies, decapitated heads, and pools of blood. Under all of it is the hashtag #freepalestine.”
The Maple reached out to Toronto Police for an update on the investigation but has yet to hear back.
Mustafa Rahmanzadeh
  • Position: Special constable
  • Employer: Toronto Police Service
  • Status: Under investigation
On October 12, Toronto Police Service spokesperson Stephanie Sayer told press that their Professional Standards department was investigating Mustafa Rahmanzadeh for a post on social media. A screenshot of the post is below:

The Maple reached out to Toronto Police for an update on the investigation but has yet to hear back.
Nisam Siddiqui
  • Position: Senior analyst
  • Employer: Privy Council Office
  • Status: Under investigation
On October 11, The Globe and Mail reported that the federal government’s Privy Council Office (PCO) was investigating Nisam Siddiqui for pro-Palestine posts on social media. The Globe claims that one of his posts “accused Canada and other Western countries of aiding Israel in ‘war crimes and crimes against humanity’ against Palestinians in Gaza.” Another post was described as reading: “They are acting as enablers to allow Israel to continue murdering Semitic Palestinians in an open-air prison in the Gaza Ghetto to maintain its brutal racist apartheid occupation.”
The Maple reached out to the PCO for an update on the investigation. Their media spokesperson replied: “We disagree in the strongest possible terms with the remarks posted. These remarks do not reflect the values and expected behaviours of the public service. Adherence to the Values and Ethics Code of the Public Service is a condition of employment for all federal public servants. While, in accordance with the Privacy Act, we are unable to provide details in relation to the employee or the status of any investigation, a breach of the values or expected behaviours described in the Values and Ethics Code of the Public Service may result in disciplinary measures, up to and including termination of employment.”
Ben Thomson
  • Position: Nephrologist
  • Employer: Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital
  • Status: Suspended
On October 13, Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital announced in a statement that it was “addressing social media posts from a few physicians and staff that do not reflect our views or values as an organization.”
That day, Ben Thomson was given a one month suspension without pay. Thomson had attracted criticism from pro-Israel groups and anonymous callers who threatened the hospital with violence, and had his home address leaked, due to this post.

CBC has reported that the hospital denied Thomson’s posts were the reason for his suspension, without elaborating any further.
The hospital has added several updates to its original announcement since then, including that they were working with police to heighten security measures as a result of online threats and also “working with Dr. Thomson on his plan to return to work once it is deemed safe to do so.”
They eventually posted a statement from Thomson, which you can read in full:
“After innocent civilians in Israel and Gaza were killed, I posted to social media in an effort to correct what I believed was misinformation and to oppose language that was dehumanizing to Palestinians. That post was then retweeted and subsequently threats of violence were made against me and my colleagues at Mackenzie Health. I did not intend for these consequences when I posted on social media. I acknowledge the harm that was caused. These threats against me and Mackenzie Health are unacceptable. Patients, staff, physicians, and others need to feel safe when attending Mackenzie Health. I recognize that the circumstances were unprecedented and I acknowledge Mackenzie Health’s position that it acted with urgency in order to keep everyone, including myself, at Mackenzie Health safe. As a physician and humanitarian, I deplore all loss of life, including that of Palestinian and Israeli civilians. I deplore all forms of discrimination. I have always and continue to oppose all forms of racism including antisemitism and anti-Palestinian racism. I am committed to providing the best care to all my patients regardless of race, creed or religion. I have and will continue to provide care that upholds this commitment. I join with others who call for peace and safety for all. I am committed to working with Mackenzie Health to safely resume my work as a doctor and to caring for all of my patients at Mackenzie Health.”
Anonymous #1
  • Position: Restaurant employees
  • Employer: Moxies
  • Status: Fired
On November 2, pro-Israel group B’nai Brith posted: “Following further discussions with the restaurant, we are happy to report that the employees in question ‘are no longer working at Moxies.’”
On October 21, a pro-Palestine march in downtown Toronto passed a location of the Moxies restaurant chain. Four Moxies employees stood at the front steps of the restaurant and applauded as the march passed. Video footage of the incident was shared online.
Pro-Israel groups put pressure on the restaurant to fire the employees. On October 22, the restaurant’s Twitter account posted: “We sincerely apologize to anyone impacted negatively by these actions. We ask that our team behaves respectfully & demonstrate empathy & sensitivity & can assure you that a formal investigation has been launched & appropriate disciplinary actions will be taken for all involved.”
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