Israel at war

Butler1000

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Germany was a state. Hamas is a terrorist group. So the comparison between Germany and Hamas is apples and oranges. That said, several war crimes WERE committed by the allied power against the German civilians. The rules for war did not exist back then, but they were war crimes regardless. I provided a link for that in an earlier reply.



And that is what they are doing now. They have razed 25% of Gaza to the ground, 9000+ people dead, half of them children and counting, while the Hamas is still going strong. Collective punishment per your own definition.
They were elected. As the Gaza govt.
 

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Your question is not making sense. Can you clarify? Why would my brown face be in Palestine? I'd be in Canada or India. Those are my countries.
I don’t know I’m just trying to figure out why is it so hard for you to understand that Palestine from river to the sea means the end of Israel?
 
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Nothing new, they've been doing it for years. They don't care of their own, they view them as martyrs for Allah.

Hamas Sends Out Women and Children to Protect Its ‘Fighters’

Hamas sent a large group of women and children to act as human shields against Israel Defense Forces troops who were attacking a key compound of the terror group in the Gaza Strip, according to soldiers.

Two IDF soldiers were killed in the Tuesday assault on Hamas’s Central Jabaliya Battalion compound, located in the Jabaliya refugee camp inside Gaza. Israel is battling to destroy Hamas and end its rule over the Strip after the group’s devastating terror attack earlier this month that killed over 1,400 people in Israel, mostly civilians.

According to a report Thursday by the Ynet news site, Hamas sent a group of 100 women and children to act as human shields to protect the compound.


“We are prepared for more incidents of such cynical and blatant use of the population,” said an unnamed IDF officer who apparently witnessed the incident.

Wow.

Israel bombs a refugee camp repeatedly and then when a large group of people come out to try to dig out the victims buried in rubble the Israeli press calls them 'human shields'?

You mean Israel is planning on bombing this refugee camp over and over again?

That's disgusting.
 

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No one advocated for Palestine from river to sea. But I also do not support Israel from river to sea, which is the case today, for which Israel needs to make amends and return lands to Palestinians to resolve the conflict.
If that was accurate it would have been resolved long ago. The forces that fight for river to sea are financed for conflict. They love conflict. There can be no negotiations with them.
 
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So I'm correct, Amnesty has not found Hamas to be using civilians as human shields. The closest is reports in previous rounds of violence of firing from residential areas, but that has not been documented now.
Thank you for checking and confirming my claims.


Amnesty International is monitoring and investigating such reports, but does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to “shield” specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks.
 

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Or maybe 🤔 maybe you just feel that it would be okay for you to be in Palestine from the river to the sea because when pogroms begin your brown face would save you (which it likely would)? I’m just asking the question.
River to sea means not living under apartheid and having freedom of movement and life.
 

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I don’t know I’m just trying to figure out why is it so hard for you to understand that Palestine from river to the sea means the end of Israel?
Are you arguing that Israel can only exist as a state if they are ruling the indigenous people through apartheid?
 

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Are you arguing that Israel can only exist as a state if they are ruling the indigenous people through apartheid?
I don’t know if the cancer tumour of hamas can be separated from Gaza population cleanly. 80% of Gazans apparently Support hamas. I don’t think they can be absorbed into Israeli society like that. There is a reason nobody wants them, including Egypt first of all.
 
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No one advocated for Palestine from river to sea. But I also do not support Israel from river to sea, which is the case today, for which Israel needs to make amends and return lands to Palestinians to resolve the conflict
Sounds like you have turned into a Hamas supporter
 

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It was just a question, relax. I listen to how Israelis talk about the Palestinians and themselves, and wondered, if this cliquiness, racism etc, were a recent thing? Of course not. Could these have caused alienation amongst the people they lived with back in the day? Probably. Hence the question. Nothing antisemitic about it. I mean you say I am stereotyping, yet yesterday you posted racist and stereotyped stuff about Muslims in response to my comment. 🤷‍♂️
I hate to say this, because a few of my friends are Indian, including the excellent doctor who is most important for my health right now.

But I'm curious what stereotypes you would use to describe the Indian people.

Feel free to research the sex provider threads on the subject...
 

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Wow.

Israel bombs a refugee camp repeatedly and then when a large group of people come out to try to dig out the victims buried in rubble the Israeli press calls them 'human shields'?

You mean Israel is planning on bombing this refugee camp over and over again?

That's disgusting.
Israel offered a ceasefire in exchange for the hostages. But Hamas refuses, just shows Hamas priorities.
 
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Hamas rocket launchers found in playgrounds, near children's pool

IDF exposes Hamas' continued use of human shields, exploitation of civilians in Gaza as places where children play used to launch rockets.


The IDF continues to expose the exploitation of the civilian population of Gaza by the Hamas terrorist organization.

During the ongoing combat operations in the Gaza Strip, IDF soldiers located rocket launchers in playgrounds, near a children's pool and in an old amusement park.

"During fighting in the Gaza Strip, IDF soldiers are exposing how the Hamas terror organization systematically uses civilian facilities for its terror activity. IDF soldiers located rocket launchers near a children's swimming pool, as well as launch pits and rocket launchers in an old children’s playground in the Gaza Strip. This is further proof of Hamas’ deliberate use of civilian infrastructure and civilians - including children - as human shields for its military operations," the IDF Spokesperson stated.

Hamas has demanded that civilians in northern Gaza remain where they are in response to the IDF's warnings and calls for them to evacuate to southern Gaza to escape the fighting. The demand that the civilians remain where they are is part of the terrorist organization's policy of using human shields in an attempt to deter Israeli strikes against its fighters, leaders, and weapons and to maximize the number of civilian casualties when the IDF strikes legitimate military targets in order to induce global condemnation of Israel's attempts to defend its citizens.

Last week, Hamas terrorists were accused of shooting and killing dozens of civilians, including many women and children, who were attempting to flee to southern Gaza. Author and journalist Amjad Taha wrote that many of the victims were carrying white flags and that "they do not want civilians to leave; they want to use them as human shields and kill anyone who attempts to leave. Hamas terrorists in Gaza will, as usual, blame Israel because it is easy and there is media that accepts this propaganda."

The IDF revealed on Saturday that 200 Hamas terrorists who participated in the October 7 massacre in Israel escaped into Gaza and are hiding in Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. Hamas has built a command center underneath Shifa Hospital.

Overnight, IDF troops directed aircraft to strike a Hamas military compound containing command and control centers, observation posts, and additional terrorist infrastructure.

During the combined activities of ground, air, and naval forces in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war, over 2,500 terror targets have been struck.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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That is not a Hamas position. Hamas wants to end Israel and give ALL of the land to Palestinians. I want Israel to share land with Palestinians.

As I said before, right wingers do not love Jews. They just hate Muslims more
You also do not love Palestinians or muslims more, you just hate Jews more
 
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Hamas rocket launchers found in playgrounds, near children's pool

IDF exposes Hamas' continued use of human shields, exploitation of civilians in Gaza as places where children play used to launch rockets.


The IDF continues to expose the exploitation of the civilian population of Gaza by the Hamas terrorist organization.

During the ongoing combat operations in the Gaza Strip, IDF soldiers located rocket launchers in playgrounds, near a children's pool and in an old amusement park.

"During fighting in the Gaza Strip, IDF soldiers are exposing how the Hamas terror organization systematically uses civilian facilities for its terror activity. IDF soldiers located rocket launchers near a children's swimming pool, as well as launch pits and rocket launchers in an old children’s playground in the Gaza Strip. This is further proof of Hamas’ deliberate use of civilian infrastructure and civilians - including children - as human shields for its military operations," the IDF Spokesperson stated.

Hamas has demanded that civilians in northern Gaza remain where they are in response to the IDF's warnings and calls for them to evacuate to southern Gaza to escape the fighting. The demand that the civilians remain where they are is part of the terrorist organization's policy of using human shields in an attempt to deter Israeli strikes against its fighters, leaders, and weapons and to maximize the number of civilian casualties when the IDF strikes legitimate military targets in order to induce global condemnation of Israel's attempts to defend its citizens.

Last week, Hamas terrorists were accused of shooting and killing dozens of civilians, including many women and children, who were attempting to flee to southern Gaza. Author and journalist Amjad Taha wrote that many of the victims were carrying white flags and that "they do not want civilians to leave; they want to use them as human shields and kill anyone who attempts to leave. Hamas terrorists in Gaza will, as usual, blame Israel because it is easy and there is media that accepts this propaganda."

The IDF revealed on Saturday that 200 Hamas terrorists who participated in the October 7 massacre in Israel escaped into Gaza and are hiding in Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. Hamas has built a command center underneath Shifa Hospital.

Overnight, IDF troops directed aircraft to strike a Hamas military compound containing command and control centers, observation posts, and additional terrorist infrastructure.

During the combined activities of ground, air, and naval forces in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war, over 2,500 terror targets have been struck.

I knew one of you would be stupid enough to post that. There is absolutely nothing in that picture, dolt.
 
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xmontrealer

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There are stereotypes about everyone.

But my question to you is - while you strongly object to my mild stereotyping of Jews, you specifically stereotyped and said racist stuff about Muslims and liked comments that were outright racist towards Muslims.

Why?
Your stereotyping of Jews was not mild. Maybe I'm more sensitive to it than you, because you are not a Jew.

I am "racist" towards Muslims that want to hurt me or other infidels. I do not have any Muslim friends, but have not felt any animosity in either direction when dealing directly with any Canadian Muslims, which I have often in my business.

So let's hear your list of Indian stereotypes, whether you agree with them or not. I will not stoop low enough to suggest any common ones for you as you did for Jews, but they certainly do exist.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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So you agree your comments were racist. Well, that is a start.

I hate racism, apartheid etc., whoever it may come from. Palestinians or Jews. Or Canadians. Which is why I hate Hamas. Which is also why I hate Zionists like Bibi
LOL....where in my post did I agree my comment was racist??!! 😂

You accuse a lot of people ITT of racism.
A wise man once told me, only racists care about race.
Let that sink in for a bit
 
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Posted several videos in this very thread. Watch them. Israelis say the ENTIRE land is theirs and the Palestinians need to leave.

To be fair the Palestinians say the same thing too, so that isn't any better.
there is no Israeli policy in which they have said they want Gaza. Are there individuals sure but thaT is not policy.
 
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