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Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

basketcase

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Well, the Israelis believe...
No racist generalization there. Ask Frank. Even he will admit that many Israelis oppose the occupation.

BTW. Considering every prisoner swap over the decades has had Hamas demanding thousands of prisoners be released in exchange for a few Israeli hostages or their remains. It seems that they think their people aren't worth as much. Either that or they know Israel (like most functioning countries) values their people.
 
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Perhaps because none of those places haven't been declared 'our biggest ally' and the backed with billions in weapons.
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An open admittance of a racist double standard. You're admitting that you don't give a shit about Muslims unless you can blame it on the US or Jews.
 
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Ok that is the dumbest post ever. The deaths in Syria were a civil war....
Is the US not directly involved, along with the US ally Saudi Arabia? And Yemen? And the results of the US occupation of Afghanistan? Seems you guys either think the involvement of Jews makes things different or have been suckered by people who do.

(not even mentioning the huge number of civilian dead in Syria directly at the hands of Russia)
 
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Israel has now killed more civilians in 3 weeks than Putin did in two years in Ukraine.
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Unlike Hamas, Putin's goals wasn't to kill off all Ukrainians. I do recall you posting in condemnation of Putin for kidnapping Ukrainian children but you've been pretty silent on Hamas doing that with Israeli children.
 

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Its not the same, Isreal has declared its genicidal intentions on Gaza, ...
Wow that is moronic. Hamas (and PIJ) are clear that their end game is the elimination of the Jewish presence. Israel's goal right now is the elimination (or at least neutering) Hamas.
 

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No racist generalization there. Ask Frank. Even he will admit that many Israelis oppose the occupation.

BTW. Considering every prisoner sap over the decades has had Hamas demanding thousands of prisoners be released in exchange for a few Israeli hostages or their remains. It seems that they think their people aren't worth as much. Either that or they know Israel (like most functioning countries) values their people.
Israel is prepping for a ceasefire now. The killing will finally stop soon.
First, they are demanding the hostages be returned. Hamas of course already offered prisoner trades a week ago.
This is the first sign that Israel knows the end is coming, they need to save face so returning the hostages may do it.


US expects Israeli air attacks to decrease soon: CNN
 

basketcase

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So you admit Israel controls what is allowed in at the Egyptian border.
Thanks.
Egypt controls it complete no matter how strong your Jewish world conspiracy theories are.

They coordinate with Israel because they are neighbours who both are worried about Hamas. It's like saying Russia controls the EU because the humanitarian aid to Ukraine was coordinated with them
 

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Israel is prepping for a ceasefire now. The killing will finally stop soon.
First, they are demanding the hostages be returned. Hamas of course already offered prisoner trades a week ago.
This is the first sign that Israel knows the end is coming, they need to save face so returning the hostages may do it.


US expects Israeli air attacks to decrease soon: CNN
Wait, I thought you said Israel was trying to commit genocide.


p.s. You're still pushing the idea that it's fair to trade women and children kidnapped by Hamas to Palestinians convicted of violent crimes.
 

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Unlike Hamas, Putin's goals wasn't to kill off all Ukrainians. I do recall you posting in condemnation of Putin for kidnapping Ukrainian children but you've been pretty silent on Hamas doing that with Israeli children.
True, Israel's goal to kill all of Gaza is worse.
They did wipe Palestine right of the map, so they did better than Putin in that regard.
 

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Wait, I thought you said Israel was trying to commit genocide.
Yes, and I also said that Israel would be stopped by international pressure.
Just like 2008, 2011, 2014, 2018 and 2021.

Let's just celebrate their eventual failure and let the Hague rule on what they did.
 

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Yeah, our Truth and Reconciliation ...
You're living on stolen land. You keep claiming Israeli is illegitimate because you think it's colonial (even though half of Israeli Jews are Arab Jews) but your quite content living in a conclusively colonial entity. Or do you think the government having a land acknowledgement makes up for all the death and stolen land?
 

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Yes, and I also said that Israel would be stopped by international pressure.
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Thank you for admitting that your genocide claims are simply emotional twaddle meant to inflame anger.


But amazing that you can accuse Israel of genocide while admitting that there's no such thing. The only people who want genocide are your Hamas (and PIJ) heroes.
 

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You're living on stolen land. You keep claiming Israeli is illegitimate because you think it's colonial (even though half of Israeli Jews are Arab Jews) but your quite content living in a conclusively colonial entity. Or do you think the government having a land acknowledgement makes up for all the death and stolen land?
Loser.

Yeah, our Truth and Reconciliation was totally like turning Gaza into a death camp.
Such a great comparison.
 

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Thank you for admitting that your genocide claims are simply emotional twaddle meant to inflame anger.


But amazing that you can accuse Israel of genocide while admitting that there's no such thing. The only people who want genocide are your Hamas (and PIJ) heroes.
No basketcase.
Israel announced their intent and started carrying through a campaign of genocide.
As usual they tried to tread the line between killing as many people as they could with slowing international outrage that would force them to stop.

Same as happened 2008, 2011, 2014, 2018 and 2021.

Its the same cycle of violence.
Your only answer to pushing zionism and Jewish supremacy.

Now its time for BDS.
 

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Wow that is moronic. Hamas (and PIJ) are clear that their end game is the elimination of the Jewish presence. Israel's goal right now is the elimination (or at least neutering) Hamas.
Yes they did, but Israel did worse. So you you admit that Israel is acting like a terrorist entity. I guess that is progress lol.
 
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