Did Ukraine crossed over to Russia and targetted civilians and held hostages then had a victory parade in the streets of Kiev?
Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?
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Here's just a sampling of the history of how long there's been rubble in Gaza:No it wasn't. Looks like the Dutch Oven is overheated now.
IDF strikes deep in Gaza after troops come under fire, amid talk of 4th Gaza war
Netanyahu arrives at defense headquarters amid fresh airstrikes on Gaza targets following sniper fire at IDF soldiers; 4 Hamas fighters dead; Minister: 'The gloves are coming off'
www.timesofisrael.com
Rubble and carnage (including the killing of Gazans by Hamas directly) is a way of life in that s*hole. When you say there weren't bodies under the rubble - do you count Gazans killed by Hamas in the tunnels?
Brutality? It shows the resolve and determination to route out Hamas and insure that the brutality of the Hamas attack is not repeated.There's been perpetual wars, yes. But rebuilt every time. This particular war clearly shows the extent of Israeli brutality, which people won't and aren't missing.
Gaza before and after: Satellite images show destruction
Israeli aerial strikes on the Palestinian territory have reduced parts of the north to rubble.www.bbc.com
The mistake Israel may have made in the past is that they didn't create enough rubble. Looks like they are determined not to make that mistake this time.There's been perpetual wars, yes. But rebuilt every time. This particular war clearly shows the extent of Israeli brutality, which people won't and aren't missing.
Gaza before and after: Satellite images show destruction
Israeli aerial strikes on the Palestinian territory have reduced parts of the north to rubble.
The PR war will be won by Russia....You can tell by how despite them being the aggressor vs. Ukraine, somehow they came out unscathed and still getting public support in Russia....we all know, behind Hamas is Iran and I wouldn't be surprised if behind Iran we gat Vlad... the shape of Middle East is about to change dramatically.... I don't know what Egypt & Syria have in mind, Turkey well...Turkey seem to dislike all their neighbors....
The citizens of Gaza let this happen to their place...They had close to 20 years of opportunity to build something that would benefit their citizens....an almost bottomless monetary support...build power plant, desalination systems for their water. It's so doable. But majority of them wanted the head of Jews (it's quite obvious how the celebrate the deaths). They invited extremist Hamas because the promise is, it's the only solution to the "jewish problem" (oh that sound so familiar)...they would sacrifice hundreds of bodies maybe thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands or whatever it takes to eventually rid of the Jews....that was the Hamas way...
Egypt has a treaty, and doesn't like or want the Palis either. They prefer billions in USA aid. Syria has an ongoing civil war in the north, and the Druze in the south aren't interested in fighting Israel.
Lots of smaller groups running around, some attached to Hezbollah, but not a big factor.
How about this guy?
Moshe Dayan - Wikipedia
Are there any Palestinian/Hamas war heroes?
Because it is a Hamas stronghold and strategy centre. They built a system of tunnels after the camp was already in existence thinking they could cowardly hide out there. The fact that after the bombing, the ground and tunnels all collapsed in (which was plain to see) proves their existence as well as further proof of Hamas using the largest refugee camp as one big human shield.
As such, a better question might be why would Hamas build such an intricate system of tunnels under a refugee camp, especially since they've stated that the tunnels are for Hamas, not civilians.
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Maybe the idf should have hired you to find all those tunnels . How hard could it be.
about 24-36 hours ago. Being supressed but the the surviving hostages were needless to say outraged. Not sure if it was a rescue attempt or just an attack. Apparently Israeli govt has a policy of killing everyone vs trying rescues.
When the FUCK in history has that ever worked. The Nazis used to do that, how did it end for them?
Dude that is a myth, fact is, Isreali troops are softie reserveists while HAMAS have been training for years (nothing else to do is there?) and Hamas are not remotely afraid of death. The Israeli Bat Mizvah boys are definitley afraid of death. And if they go into Gaza they with die in large numbers. Any Israeli troops tha get captured should put a bullet into their head 'cos they will be treated with horrific brutaiilty. Hamas is egging Israel on.
It is very doable... how can a country like Philippines able to build power sources in every island (they have 1100 little islands)...mind you they are also a 3rd world developing country....don't have as much funding as Gaza gets...the key IMO is focus...is it too far down the line? Definitely. If the Palestinians chose to detach from hamas then we can say there is hope....if not...the suffering will go on.
The Palestinians can't win it.
If Israel decides it can't win it, then there's a good chance it stops trying. And then things will REALLY get ugly for the Palestinians.
So they can't afford to win it. And they can't afford for Hamas to win it either.
If Israel decides it can't win it, then there's a good chance it stops trying. And then things will REALLY get ugly for the Palestinians.
So they can't afford to win it. And they can't afford for Hamas to win it either.
Moshe Dyan didn't get his picture on the cover of Time Magazine by pulling PR stunts like this.
So where's the tunnel? I don't see a tunnel. Any more than I see dead Hamas leaders. I guess you have to take it on faith. Or with a grain of salt. Or call bullshit on it.
Frankly, considering the shit show the IDF has made of the being caught with their pants down for 9 hours during a border breach and the indiscriminate retaliation which is more like a sadistic temper tantrum war crime than any idea of an organized military response, I am calling bullshit because of the lack of any proof that they are doing anything else than murdering civilians.
I know the story behind Hamas living amongst civilians. But This picture doesn't prove shit. Anymore than claiming they took out a specific number of Hamas chiefs and henchmen. All I see is a crater with civilians digging out .
So I guess we will just have to take their word for it.
All I see is a massive intelligence failure by Israel followed by mass murder in response.
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Obviously Palestinians will win in PR because first, they happily use pictures of the dead to incite hatred and second, Israel won't let them butcher a thousand more Israeli civilians in the next while.
They even butchered people they knew were Palestinian in their murderous rampage.
www.timesofisrael.com
They even butchered people they knew were Palestinian in their murderous rampage.
Newly released footage shows Palestinian driver in Hamas hands before Oct. 7 slaying
Suhaib Razeem, 22, was caught and questioned by Hamas terrorists at the Nova festival. Some called to let him go, but he was found dead 12 days later
www.timesofisrael.com
