Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

[Frankfooter]

Like this you mean?

You mean you agree that both Israel and Hamas are terrorists?

 

[Frankfooter]

Hamas targeted Israeli civilians, then held palestinian civilians as hostages.... you still think they're fighting for freedom?
"Tunnels were built to protect fighters not civilians...civilians are UN & Israel's responsibility"....

Civilians are Israel-UN's responsibility, tunnels built to protect fighters: Hamas official | Top updates

The weeks-long war has intensified after Hamas and Israel troops confronted each other inside Gaza's main city. Check out latest updates on the conflict.

www.hindustantimes.com

Hindustani Times? That video came from MEMRI, its propaganda.

Israel has killed 31 journalists and 64 UN workers. There is no evidence of Hamas using human shields.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719130697854583124

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Yet you also ignore the fact that most of the surrounding countries are a little bit pissed at having to house refugees that are Israel's responsibility.

Time Palestinians put on their big boy pants and grew up. Take some responsibility for the mess they created.
UEA. Saudi Arabia. They're rich. Why not share the love? Give them land. Give them money. Palestinians are not Israel's responsibility. That's like saying I am responsible for your obfuscation.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

You mean you agree that both Israel and Hamas are terrorists?

Well I haven't heard of Israelis raping women and beheading babies so far.

 

[Frankfooter]

Time Palestinians put on their big boy pants and grew up. Take some responsibility for the mess they created.

Palestinians did not create partition, nor did they create the 75 year old apartheid occupation.

 

[Frankfooter]

Well I haven't heard of Israelis raping women and beheading babies so far.

IDF, settlers allegedly bind, strip, beat, burn, urinate on 3 Palestinians in W. Bank

Palestinian accuses suspects of attempted sodomy in attack days after Hamas onslaught; Israeli activists say they were also victimized; IDF boots commanding officer, launches probe

www.timesofisrael.com

There are multiple videos of babies in Gaza that have been beheaded by Israeli bombs.
I really don't want to look for them or post them, please retract your claim so I don't have to.

 

[richaceg]

Hindustani Times? That video came from MEMRI, its propaganda.

Israel has killed 31 journalists and 64 UN workers. There is no evidence of Hamas using human shields.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719130697854583124

straight from the terrorist mouth...they don't care about civilians or they call them "refugees"

Hamas Official: Tunnels Are For Protecting Terrorists, Not Palestinian Civilians

Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk confirmed during a recent interview that the hundreds of miles of tunnels underneath Gaza are to protect Hamas terrorists, not Palestinian civilians, from Israeli airstrikes. The remarks come after Hamas launched an unprecedented terrorist attack on October 7 in...

www.dailywire.com

 

[Gators]

Well, I'm getting a little tired of this cunt.
"This is a time for war"
Bombing civilians isn't really war. Unless you're German.
Netanyahu declares it is ‘time for war’ as Israel hails hostage release | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

Well, I'm getting a little tired of this cunt.
"This is a time for war"
Bombing civilians isn't really war. Unless you're German.
Netanyahu declares it is ‘time for war’ as Israel hails hostage release | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

Bibi sounds everyday more like leader of Germany in WWII

 

[richaceg]

There are multiple videos of babies in Gaza that have been beheaded by Israeli bombs.
I really don't want to look for them or post them, please retract your claim so I don't have to.

Hamas don't care about the civilians...Hamas and their supporters are now crying....after celebrating....Hamas officials in suites in a hotel celebrating....while the people of gaza are suffering...while Israelis are mourning....
Those are the group you support...you justify these actions franky...

 

[Frankfooter]

Hamas don't care about the civilians...Hamas and their supporters are now crying....after celebrating....Hamas officials in suites in a hotel celebrating....while the people of gaza are suffering...while Israelis are mourning....
Those are the group you support...you justify these actions franky...

You seem to know a lot about how Hamas thinks for a guy who only watched one video.

 

[John_Jacob]

To the posters that 'care', why do you care? What are your reasons?

It's obvious once again, they (Frankie being one of them) are coming for the Jew. The Canary in the Coal Mine for how society advances.


Then again,
Why doesn’t anyone care about Arab-on-Palestinian violence?
When Arab states root out Islamist terror cells, they do so with more force and far less care for innocent lives. The response: crickets

Danielle Kubes: Why doesn’t anyone care about Arab-on-Palestinian violence?

When Arab states root out Islamist terror cells, they do so with more force and far less care for innocent lives. The response: crickets

nationalpost.com

Implicitly stated, different standards of responsibility apply to the civilized versus the barbarians.

 

[mandrill]

You mean those 600,000 Palestinian refugees that the UN keeps repeatedly demanding Israel allow back?
Israel won't because they'd lose control of their 'democracy' if they were allowed to vote along with all Palestinians under their rule.

Maybe because the Palestinians would start voting for measures that put Jews at their mercy and then would attack them. HAMAS has a policy that it must sweep Israel clean of unbelievers and reclaim the land for Allah.

 

[mandrill]

Well, I'm getting a little tired of this cunt.
"This is a time for war"
Bombing civilians isn't really war. Unless you're German.
Netanyahu declares it is ‘time for war’ as Israel hails hostage release | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

Okay, Napoleon. How would YOU fight this war?

Bearing in mind that HAMAS has tunneled under a hospital and other civilian structures?

 

[richaceg]

You seem to know a lot about how Hamas thinks for a guy who only watched one video.

you don't need twitter feeds etc etc...a couple of videos will give you all the information you need to know what they're all about...it's up to you how you take it... I know how you take their videos....

 

[richaceg]

I don't think it is about religion, even though Hamas uses it to rally support. I mean Muslims have a problem with Christians as well, on account of the US invading the middle east. But, Palestinians have Christians too. Atleast 40% of Israelis, have ancestry originating in the middle east where they lived for many centuries alongside Muslims. This is more of a sectarian conflict, where politics, culture and religion are all mixed together, in my opinion, than a purely religious one.

The problem with extremists (Hamas, PJ, ISIS) is they want absolution...it's either Islam or you're an infidel and you must die...the beheadings they have done doesn't only apply to Jews...

 

[Frankfooter]

Implicitly stated, different standards of responsibility apply to the civilized versus the barbarians.

This is the kind of racist language that justifies genocide.

 

[Frankfooter]

Maybe because the Palestinians would start voting for measures that put Jews at their mercy and then would attack them. HAMAS has a policy that it must sweep Israel clean of unbelievers and reclaim the land for Allah.

You should do a little direct research, mandrill.

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.

 

[richaceg]

This below.



People do care, but it rarely creates any change, unless there is active political action towards it.

People caring also depends on how much it is reported, to create awareness, how worldly wise an individual is to seek out information on their own, and how much your politicians are talking about it. It also matters on how big the diaspora is, in your country, of the people of those countries currently engaged in conflict, because that would lead to citizens speaking up and urging the government to act and do something. In the case of the Rwandan genocide, they didn't report enough, nor was it in anyone's national interests and how many Rwandans do you see around Canada? So there are several factors. But it doesn't mean people don't fundamentally care or are incapable of caring if they do see death and destruction.

Of course people care, no one wants civilians harmed..but Hamas makes it hard for anyone to determine who's civilians and who's not.

 

[richaceg]

This below.



People do care, but it rarely creates any change, unless there is active political action towards it.

People caring also depends on how much it is reported, to create awareness, how worldly wise an individual is to seek out information on their own, and how much your politicians are talking about it. It also matters on how big the diaspora is, in your country, of the people of those countries currently engaged in conflict, because that would lead to citizens speaking up and urging the government to act and do something. In the case of the Rwandan genocide, they didn't report enough, nor was it in anyone's national interests and how many Rwandans do you see around Canada? So there are several factors. But it doesn't mean people don't fundamentally care or are incapable of caring if they do see death and destruction.

Of course people care, no one wants civilians harmed..but Hamas makes it hard for anyone to determine who's civilians and who's not.

 

[richaceg]

You should do a little direct research, mandrill.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.

Not according to Hamas...