Israel at war

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
86,604
131,953
113
During British rule it was called "Mandatory Palestine" or simply Palestine from 1920 to 1948.

I am using history books and you are using religious books.
The Ottomans owned it from about 1500, until the British and French broke up the Ottoman Empire in 1919. Then the Brits owned it until 1948.
 

Klatuu

Well-known member
Dec 31, 2022
7,545
4,822
113
That doesn't help the Palestinians whom he cheated and scammed, does it?
It’s just another injustice the Israeli government subjected Palestinians to. Israel stealing Palestinian tax revenue and secretly financing a corrupt leader and keeping him in power. All the while bleating to the world that they had to contend with a heartless terrorist. The Israeli government lied to the world, their people and Palestinians.

Can you believe anything the Israeli government says? There’s a lot of evidence that you can’t.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
104,323
30,258
113
So butchering terrified Israeli women and children was justified because the HAMAS killers were peeved??!!
The story is that Egypt warned Netanyahu but he either didn't take it seriously or wanted an attack to bolster his career.
Hamas' attack was far more successful than they thought it would be.
But everyone knew it was coming.

Netanyahu could have made moves towards peace and it wouldn't have happened. Instead he kept the blockade going, no peace talks and more settlers and settler terrorism.

 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
86,604
131,953
113
It’s just another injustice the Israeli government subjected Palestinians to. Israel stealing Palestinian tax revenue and secretly financing a corrupt leader and keeping him in power. All the while bleating to the world that they had to contend with a heartless terrorist. The Israeli government lied to the world, their people and Palestinians.

Can you believe anything the Israeli government says? There’s a lot of evidence that you can’t.
Sounds pretty sneaky and smart by the Israeli government.

If they had a hardcore, jihadi dude terror thug, how would that have helped them?
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
86,604
131,953
113
The story is that Egypt warned Netanyahu but he either didn't take it seriously or wanted an attack to bolster his career.
Hamas' attack was far more successful than they thought it would be.
But everyone knew it was coming.

Netanyahu could have made moves towards peace and it wouldn't have happened. Instead he kept the blockade going, no peace talks and more settlers and settler terrorism.

Just because you're pissed at someone, doesn't mean you go on a rape spree.

C'mon. The continual bleat that Palestine is "oppressed" hides the fact that HAMAS would genocide the Israelis in a heartbeat if it thought it could get away with it.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
104,323
30,258
113
But it doesn't matter, does it?

They were turfed over 50 years ago by a nation with a first rate army and nukes. The Israelis ain't going anywhere. No matter how many suicide bombers offer their souls to Allah, the Jews are there to stay.

So the Palestinians either adapt to that reality. Or leave.
Churchill, pretty blatant....

 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
104,323
30,258
113
Just because you're pissed at someone, doesn't mean you go on a rape spree.

C'mon. The continual bleat that Palestine is "oppressed" hides the fact that HAMAS would genocide the Israelis in a heartbeat if it thought it could get away with it.
There is no evidence of rape, mandrill.

You sound like conil these days, accusing Palestinians of 'genocidal intent' to justify genocide itself.
Look at it this way, Netanyahu thinks he can get away with genocide too, so he's actually doing it.
Does that make him any different than what you think is really evil? Actually committing genocide vs what you think Hamas thinks?

You're smarter than this.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dragon77

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
86,604
131,953
113
There is no evidence of rape, mandrill.

You sound like conil these days, accusing Palestinians of 'genocidal intent' to justify genocide itself.
Look at it this way, Netanyahu thinks he can get away with genocide too, so he's actually doing it.
Does that make him any different than what you think is really evil? Actually committing genocide vs what you think Hamas thinks?

You're smarter than this.
There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.
 

mandrill

monkey
Aug 23, 2001
86,604
131,953
113
BIden is getting too much blowback.
His government knows Netanyahu has no endplan, he's just on a killing spree.
What this is doing to the US globally is way bigger than the blowback from the Iraq war, this will set the US back decades in good will across the planet.

No. The IDF has a plan and is going to set out and achieve it. It's going to wreck a lot of Gaza, but it's achievable to destroy HAMAS.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
104,323
30,258
113
There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.
There is no evidence of rape and torture that I've seen.
Genocide?



Rape?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dragon77 and Klatuu

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
104,323
30,258
113
No. The IDF has a plan and is going to set out and achieve it. It's going to wreck a lot of Gaza, but it's achievable to destroy HAMAS.
They've already destroyed 50% of all housing, all power, all water, all hospitals.
Its just genocide now.
Gaza is a death camp.

50% of Gaza are children, children you want to teach to hate Israelis.
You gonna kill all of them too?
2700 dead children, 350 in the last day, 900 more buried in the rubble.
 

squeezer

Well-known member
Jan 8, 2010
24,463
20,059
113
They've already destroyed 50% of all housing, all power, all water, all hospitals.
Its just genocide now.
Gaza is a death camp.

50% of Gaza are children, children you want to teach to hate Israelis.
You gonna kill all of them too?
2700 dead children, 350 in the last day, 900 more buried in the rubble.
Question, why do the HAMAS soldiers look so clean , well dressed and do not look like they have missed a meal? Take a look at the decent watch he's even wearing. No power, no water, no hospitals doesn't seem to be bothering them one bit ?

 

Not getting younger

Well-known member
Jun 29, 2022
4,464
2,410
113
There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.
Frank lives in some kind of alternative reality.
nor does he grasp what genocide is, nor that genocide is Hamas’s stated goal. Just no dealing with him. There’s hopeless, and there’s his kind of hopeless.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phil C. McNasty

Not getting younger

Well-known member
Jun 29, 2022
4,464
2,410
113
They sit pretty in their tunnels where they probably have water, fuel, food, medical supplies and everything else stocked up for weeks/months. They surely anticipated this and prepared for this to dig in for the long haul. The population of Gaza be damned.
yeah, funny that. They are surviving in tunnels when power is cut off to Gaza.

I can think of a few ways to flush rats out tunnels. Shouldn’t be too hard.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xmontrealer
Toronto Escorts