Israel at war

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717205979056529537

BIden is getting too much blowback.
His government knows Netanyahu has no endplan, he's just on a killing spree.
What this is doing to the US globally is way bigger than the blowback from the Iraq war, this will set the US back decades in good will across the planet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717277367284994179

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717322955212861465

 

[mandrill]

There is no evidence of rape, mandrill.

You sound like conil these days, accusing Palestinians of 'genocidal intent' to justify genocide itself.
Look at it this way, Netanyahu thinks he can get away with genocide too, so he's actually doing it.
Does that make him any different than what you think is really evil? Actually committing genocide vs what you think Hamas thinks?

You're smarter than this.

There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.

 

[mandrill]

BIden is getting too much blowback.
His government knows Netanyahu has no endplan, he's just on a killing spree.
What this is doing to the US globally is way bigger than the blowback from the Iraq war, this will set the US back decades in good will across the planet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717277367284994179

No. The IDF has a plan and is going to set out and achieve it. It's going to wreck a lot of Gaza, but it's achievable to destroy HAMAS.

 

[Frankfooter]

There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.

There is no evidence of rape and torture that I've seen.
Genocide?

https://twitter.com/DCIPalestine

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714953208840278296

Rape?

IDF, settlers allegedly bind, strip, beat, burn, urinate on 3 Palestinians in W. Bank

Palestinian accuses suspects of attempted sodomy in attack days after Hamas onslaught; Israeli activists say they were also victimized; IDF boots commanding officer, launches probe

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Frankfooter]

No. The IDF has a plan and is going to set out and achieve it. It's going to wreck a lot of Gaza, but it's achievable to destroy HAMAS.

They've already destroyed 50% of all housing, all power, all water, all hospitals.
Its just genocide now.
Gaza is a death camp.

50% of Gaza are children, children you want to teach to hate Israelis.
You gonna kill all of them too?
2700 dead children, 350 in the last day, 900 more buried in the rubble.

 

[squeezer]

Fact checking the nonsense and bullshit

Misinformation about the Israel-Hamas war is flooding social media. Here are the facts

In the days since Hamas militants stormed into Israel, a flood of videos and photos purporting to show the conflict have filled social media.

apnews.com

 

[squeezer]

They've already destroyed 50% of all housing, all power, all water, all hospitals.
Its just genocide now.
Gaza is a death camp.

50% of Gaza are children, children you want to teach to hate Israelis.
You gonna kill all of them too?
2700 dead children, 350 in the last day, 900 more buried in the rubble.

Question, why do the HAMAS soldiers look so clean , well dressed and do not look like they have missed a meal? Take a look at the decent watch he's even wearing. No power, no water, no hospitals doesn't seem to be bothering them one bit ?

 

[Not getting younger]

There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.

Frank lives in some kind of alternative reality.
nor does he grasp what genocide is, nor that genocide is Hamas’s stated goal. Just no dealing with him. There’s hopeless, and there’s his kind of hopeless.

 

[Not getting younger]

They sit pretty in their tunnels where they probably have water, fuel, food, medical supplies and everything else stocked up for weeks/months. They surely anticipated this and prepared for this to dig in for the long haul. The population of Gaza be damned.

yeah, funny that. They are surviving in tunnels when power is cut off to Gaza.

I can think of a few ways to flush rats out tunnels. Shouldn’t be too hard.

 

[xmontrealer]

The problem with delaying the Israeli ground invasion is that it lets Hamas dig in deeper, while it prolongs the Israeli bombing attacks that inevitably kill innocents, and the siege whose effects are horrific to watch.

Hamas is making sure the world sees what the Palestinians are suffering, while Israel is holding back public viewing of the Oct. 7 videos that they showed to a select group of media people. I believe the world should see those Oct. 7 videos, while perhaps pixilating or otherwise rendering suitable for broadcast whatever video footage is deemed too extreme for broadcast by the world media.

I understand Biden trying to hold the ground invasion back. Maybe to allow for further hostage negotiations, but Hamas will release hostages so slowly that the world will forget most of Oct. 7 and sympathize more with the innocents in Gaza. I also understand that Biden fears a ground invasion will bring other bad actors in the region into the hostilities, and require a response from the US in the region, which he would rather avoid.

In my opinion Israel should start the ground invasion asap and destroy Hamas, if not ideologically, then at least militarily, so they will be unable to attack Israel with any significant military strength for years to come.

Short term pain for long term gain, as opposed to long term pain for both sides. I feel that is preferable to what I fear will be the US before long demanding a ceasefire, leaving Hamas in power with further attack capabilities.

 

[Frankfooter]

That was Hamas' plan all along. They wanted a massive attack on Israel, so Israel will respond 10 times harder, which will put the entire worlds focus on Gaza because of the death and destruction, hoping to turn the world's opinion against Israel. I also think the ground invasion should proceed asap and the entire war be kept as short as possible, to quickly and decisively win against Hamas and then get to negotiating something long term.

What a stupid theory.

 

[Frankfooter]

Question, why do the HAMAS soldiers look so clean , well dressed and do not look like they have missed a meal? Take a look at the decent watch he's even wearing. No power, no water, no hospitals doesn't seem to be bothering them one bit ?

Question, why would you even ask this?

The problem with delaying the Israeli ground invasion is that it lets Hamas dig in deeper, while it prolongs the Israeli bombing attacks that inevitably kill innocents, and the siege whose effects are horrific to watch.

Hamas is making sure the world sees what the Palestinians are suffering, while Israel is holding back public viewing of the Oct. 7 videos that they showed to a select group of media people. I believe the world should see those Oct. 7 videos, while perhaps pixilating or otherwise rendering suitable for broadcast whatever video footage is deemed too extreme for broadcast by the world media.

I understand Biden trying to hold the ground invasion back. Maybe to allow for further hostage negotiations, but Hamas will release hostages so slowly that the world will forget most of Oct. 7 and sympathize more with the innocents in Gaza. I also understand that Biden fears a ground invasion will bring other bad actors in the region into the hostilities, and require a response from the US in the region, which he would rather avoid.

In my opinion Israel should start the ground invasion asap and destroy Hamas, if not ideologically, then at least militarily, so they will be unable to attack Israel with any significant military strength for years to come.

Short term pain for long term gain, as opposed to long term pain for both sides. I feel that is preferable to what I fear will be the US before long demanding a ceasefire, leaving Hamas in power with further attack capabilities.

Israel is losing support very quickly.
Biden already told Netanyahu to pause.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717334698794356867

Attack now and all you do is empower BDS.
86 countries spoke against Israel at the UN.

The US can't ignore what this is doing with Muslim countries.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715140469020082283

 

[Klatuu]

Sounds pretty sneaky and smart by the Israeli government.

If they had a hardcore, jihadi dude terror thug, how would that have helped them?

Sure, smart like a mobster is smart. Sneaky like a con artist. Completely consistent with exploiting and oppressing another people. And you can’t for the life of you understand why PalestInians want rid of this brutal half century occupier.

 

[Klatuu]

No. The IDF has a plan and is going to set out and achieve it. It's going to wreck a lot of Gaza, but it's achievable to destroy HAMAS.

Thats funny. There’s one born every minute.

 

[Klatuu]

A devout Muslim cannot accept that a non Muslim can seize and hold land that has previously been a Muslim land and must wage permanent jihad against the unbelievers until they are all dead or converted to Islam or driven out and the land is once again blessed by Allah.

Do ordinary Muslims believe that?.... Probably not 100%. But HAMAS believes it.

Nuts’r’Us

 

[toguy5252]

Sure, smart like a mobster is smart. Sneaky like a con artist. Completely consistent with exploiting and oppressing another people. And you can’t for the life of you understand why PalestInians want rid of this brutal half century occupier.

For myself what I cannot understand is why any Palestinian or anyone sympathetic to the Palestinian cause would listen to people like you whose only interest is death of civilians on either side and engendering hatred of Israel and Jews.

 

[Klatuu]

There is evidence of rape and torture.

HAMAS is a genocidal organization. Lots of evidence of both of those things.

You are becoming TERBs Meir Kahane.

 

[The Oracle]

Frank lives in some kind of alternative reality.
nor does he grasp what genocide is, nor that genocide is Hamas’s stated goal. Just no dealing with him. There’s hopeless, and there’s his kind of hopeless.

14 minutes of the pro Hamas crowd's regurgitated talking points and the counter arguments to them.

 

[xmontrealer]

Klatuu just trolls these threads, but never expresses himself. Just quipping on every post, spamming tweets. Never speak your mind on what you actually want, or propose.

That's why I have Klatuu on ignore. He contributes nothing of value.

Even though I disagree with Frankfooter on most issues, and find him quite repetitious and circular, I do read his posts.