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basketcase

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No, both sides need to be taken to the Hague.
How many times do I have to say that?
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It's what you refuse to say. No one believes your Trumpian "both sides" shit.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
 
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Frankfooter

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Amazing that you so freely pretend all Israelis are terrorists while claiming it is racist to say Hamas is a terror group. Sorry but Hamas is a terrorist group as we all saw when they committed a major terror attack on Oct. 7. You might support their actions but that doesn't change a thing.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?
Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
I said, if you are willing to use the term fairly, using the same definition on both sides, you'll have to label both sides 'terrorist'.
If you agree to that, I'll go along with you.

What I wont do is follow your racist move to claim it only fits Palestinians.

But as a point of order, can you rank these three crimes against humanity by levels of evil?
apartheid
terrorism
genocide

Go ahead.
 

Frankfooter

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It's what you refuse to say. No one believes your Trumpian "both sides" shit.

Are you willing to admit that Hamas are a terrorist group who intentionally targeted Jewish civilians?

Do you care to explain how Hamas' butchery will in any way advance the welfare of Palestinians?
Nobody believes your racist definition, basketcase.
Make a case, set the definition and we'll apply it fairly to both sides and see who you think are 'terrorists'.

Otherwise you're just another Islamaphobie, out trying to dehumanize an indigenous population.
 

Butler1000

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So where is the evidence for "They tried to introduce Sharia Law"? Seems like 25 protestors at a consulate and a recommendation by a MP.

Also see basketcase's post - "......they suggested giving the same rights to the Muslim community that the Christian and Jewish communities already had to voluntary arbitration on minor family matters."

So again, where is the dangerous Taliban style Sharia Law that you are referring to?
Slippery slope.

Here is what happens with a foothold

 
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Butler1000

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Every religion is. Don't know why you think Islam is a special case. The only real difference I see is things like the Magna Carta put cracks into authoritarian rule in the English descended world.

And what's your excuse for China? Is their authoritarian rule the fault of Islam too? And Russia? North Korea? How about majority Christian Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea, Democratic Republic of Congo, CAR, or Burundi? Buddhist Laos?
As you said, different tools, same result. In the ME its Islam. Thats this thread. Start one about China if they attack Taiwan and I will happily vilify the CCP.

Happy to also discuss the bad role of the Orthodox Church in Russia as well. Or Evangelicals in the USA on a variety of issues. Or some African nations using Christianity aganst gay people.

But we don't have priests as Judges. They do.
 
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basketcase

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I said, if you are willing to use the term fairly, using the same definition on both sides, you'll have to label both sides 'terrorist'.
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Take your own advice. You have made clear that in your definition, terrorism is anything that Israel does as you have shown when you've accused Israel of terrorism for shooting back at PIJ fighters. At the same time you keep denying that there are Palestinian terrorists, going so far as claiming it is racist to say they are. So what if Hamas set out to butcher and kidnap as many Jewish civilians as possible.

My definition of terrorism is in line with Canada's.
 

basketcase

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As you said, different tools, same result. In the ME its Islam. Thats this thread. Start one about China if they attack Taiwan and I will happily vilify the CCP.

Happy to also discuss the bad role of the Orthodox Church in Russia as well. Or Evangelicals in the USA on a variety of issues. Or some African nations using Christianity aganst gay people.
Strange because you were just arguing that it was Islam that caused that authoritarianism. No point in trying to change the topic now just because you were smacked in the face with communist, Christian, and Buddhist authoritarians.
 
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Frankfooter

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Take your own advice. You have made clear that in your definition, terrorism is anything that Israel does as you have shown when you've accused Israel of terrorism for shooting back at PIJ fighters. At the same time you keep denying that there are Palestinian terrorists, going so far as claiming it is racist to say they are, simply because they set out to butcher and kidnap as many Jewish civilians as possible.

My definition of terrorism is in line with Canada's.
There is no definition there, but seeing as the Israeli Minister of Security is part of a party listed as 'terrorist', you just made the case that Israel are also terrorist by your terms.
Nicely done.

All this discussion is doing is showing that you use the term 'terrorist' based on race, not acts, and you use it to dehumanize Palestinians to justify genocide.

 

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Toronto, Ontario
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Palestinians accuse Hamas of storing weapons in residential areas
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip said that the explosion that killed 1 and injured 14 on Thursday took place in a warehouse used by Hamas for storing weapons.
By KHALED ABU TOAMEHJULY 24, 2021 22:13



Palestinian factions and human rights organizations have called on Hamas and other Palestinian terror groups to stop storing weapons in residential areas following another explosion, which killed one person and injured 14 others on Thursday.
They also demanded a thorough investigation into the explosion in order to hold those responsible accountable.
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip said that the explosion took place in a warehouse used by Hamas for storing weapons.


Palestinians accuse Hamas of storing weapons in residential areas - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)
 
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Butler1000

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I asked you about Ontario. You claimed they tried to introduce Sharia Law in Ontario. Where is the evidence? I am not interested in Indonesia - that is a Muslim country anyway. They can choose to introduce Sharia if they want to. But where is the evidence to support your claim about Ontario?
I posted a link.
 

Butler1000

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Strange because you were just arguing that it was Islam that caused that authoritarianism. No point in trying to change the topic now just because you were smacked in the face with communist, Christian, and Buddhist authoritarians.
It does. Its teachings cause it.
 

richaceg

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Both Hamas and Israel have committed terrorism by targeting civilians and both should be charged for all war crimes.
You, and all Israeli supporters, want everyone to use the 'terrorist' label. I'll go along with that if you also agree that the Israeli government and army are also terrorists, as they are guilty of the same crimes but on a much, much more massive scale.

Agree?
Your bullshit will never end...you compare Israel with hamas...a country with a terrorist faction....your hate for jews knows no bounds...
 
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