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How Conservatives enable violent crime.

Not getting younger

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You said weird how anti drug the GOPee, is. And that Heroin ( an opioid) kills 25x more per year.

or did you not know Heroin both a drug and an opioid? So about that reading and comprehension comment…..
 

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However, none of that explains why the guns are used FOR MORE CRIME in the blue states. Guns don't make people criminals. Criminals seek out guns. Stewart ignores what the real problem is - there is something fundamentally flawed in the laws/social circumstances of these high crime blue states that politicians are supposed to address, but don't. Instead they focus on the presence of guns.
Thanks for the sociology lesson, pal. "have-nots" often turn to crime just to exist, since the "haves" are often really selfish pricks...
 
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Thanks for the sociology lesson, pal. "have-nots" often turn to crime just to exist, since the "haves" are often really selfish pricks...
Really? Most of the gun crimes are "have nots" shooting up other "have nots". And you think that's about equity, pal?
 
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How’s that been working in Canada Poker. The “same” dynamic Stewart is showing/mocking is essentially what’s occurring here. Has been for 10-20 years. In fact, not only are our gun controls stricter, our firearms laws are federal as opposed to a mish mash of State laws.

Today, not only are gangs, drug and gun smuggling a growing problem in the GTA, when people are being gunned down, hooked on Opiods by those out on bail, given slaps on the wrist. And human trafficking a swept under the rug problem… they are spreading out..

If you have stats that show our violent crime rates , are going down rather than up..by all means show them. Or that the opioid crises is improving rather than getting much worse..
How’s it working… most illegal guns are coming from the US… I wonder which states the supply comes from?

Bottom line. Conservative politicians work for the gun lobby… make guns for criminals easy. And the sheep follow party line blindly.
 

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Really? Most of the gun crimes are "have nots" shooting up other "have nots". And you think that's about equity, pal?
You're right, we should end the economic segregation so that the have nots have access to the haves.
Make them all live in the same neighbourhoods.
 

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Really? Most of the gun crimes are "have nots" shooting up other "have nots". And you think that's about equity, pal?
The vast majority of firearm murders in the US are committed by guess what.

Handguns….. Just like Canada.
How’s it working… most illegal guns are coming from the US… I wonder which states the supply comes from?

Bottom line. Conservative politicians work for the gun lobby… make guns for criminals easy. And the sheep follow party line blindly.
I can play that game too.
Liberals politicians first shave their sheep, taking their money and pouring into feel good fuzzy wuzzies while screaming about guns.., Then they pull their sheep’s own wool over their eyes. So badly some think opiod deaths outnumber gun deaths. Those same sheep waste years yelling for gun bans, while they enable gang bangers and smugglers.

The liberal sheep watch stupidly as most sheep and lemmings do while opioid over doses sky rocket too, and still blame guns.

They have drunk so sheep piss and eaten so much sheep shit by 2023, even when violent crime rates are soaring and firearm related crime is up 25% in the last 10 years, and cold hard stats are staring them in the face. Like liberals in the US they blame everyone but themselves and their enabling gang bangers for decades.

Difference between your sheep and my sheep?
I have stats…you dont
I have police chiefs/forces saying the same…you dont
I have liberal politicians shitting their pants, knowing they helped create a problem and only now want to change bail….you don’t

Sheeple.
 
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They have drunk so sheep piss and eaten so much sheep shit by 2023, even when violent crime rates are soaring and firearm related crime is up 25% in the last 10 years, and cold hard stats are staring them in the face. Like liberals in the US they blame everyone but themselves and their enabling gang bangers for decades.

Difference between your sheep and my sheep?
I have stats…you dont
I have police chiefs/forces saying the same…you dont
I have liberal politicians shitting their pants, knowing they helped create a problem and only now want to change bail….you don’t

Sheeple.
Where the stats?
 
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Comic book Frank has only been given them dozens of times. Has never not once produced anything to the contrary. Yet still he want to make an utter laughable ass of himself.

Happy to oblige Terbs largest fool and unaware poster
TORONTO — Crime continued to rise in Canada in 2022, new Statistics Canada data show, with the severity of violent crime reaching its highest point since 2007, and murders reaching their highest rate in 30 year
I know comic books are more his speed, so hopefully this picture will help his wanting grey matter I know he has seen more than once


If the poster boy for low iq has stats to the contrary. Post them.
 
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The vast majority of firearm murders in the US are committed by guess what.

Handguns….. Just like Canada.


I can play that game too.
Liberals politicians first shave their sheep, taking their money and pouring into feel good fuzzy wuzzies while screaming about guns.., Then they pull their sheep’s own wool over their eyes. So badly some think opiod deaths outnumber gun deaths. Those same sheep waste years yelling for gun bans, while they enable gang bangers and smugglers.

The liberal sheep watch stupidly as most sheep and lemmings do while opioid over doses sky rocket too, and still blame guns.

They have drunk so sheep piss and eaten so much sheep shit by 2023, even when violent crime rates are soaring and firearm related crime is up 25% in the last 10 years, and cold hard stats are staring them in the face. Like liberals in the US they blame everyone but themselves and their enabling gang bangers for decades.

Difference between your sheep and my sheep?
I have stats…you dont
I have police chiefs/forces saying the same…you dont
I have liberal politicians shitting their pants, knowing they helped create a problem and only now want to change bail….you don’t

Sheeple.
WTF are you talking about?

On one hand you are saying we some how got fooled into thinking
Then they pull their sheep’s own wool over their eyes. So badly some think opiod deaths outnumber gun deaths.
…. Then say we “scream for gun bans”…. After insinuating that gun deaths outnumber opioid deaths.

But either way…. You are deflecting.

This post is about soft on gun control Red States enabling violent crime but making it easy to purchase and transport weapons to Blue States where they would have been harder for criminals to obtain. I repeated that over and over. You can’t tap dance your way out of that fact.

The bottom line is… the Conservative solution to do nothing, does not work. Never has. Never will. The gun problem in the US took 250 years to create, and any thinking person knows that it will not be fixed in months or a few years. If sensible gun laws are enacted now…. It may take 50 years. Maybe longer.

Let’s look at what we agree on though.

* Violent criminals should not have access, especially easy access to guns.

* We both want crime rates down

* Neither one of us wants our stuff stolen by thieves.

The difference between you and I…. You are blinded by party ideologies. Your rant above simply parrots a lot of it. But let me throw you a bone…. How would solve the problem of violent gun crime escalating. Here or there. You have stats… so what is the answer?
 
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Comic book Frank has only been given them dozens of times. Has never not once produced anything to the contrary. Yet still he want to make an utter laughable ass of himself.

Happy to oblige Terbs largest fool and unaware poster


I know comic books are more his speed, so hopefully this picture will help his wanting grey matter I know he has seen more than once


If the poster boy for low iq has stats to the contrary. Post them.
Those aren’t stats. Those are headlines.
Headlines that nobody is argueing.

Again… original post says the Conservative States with soft gun laws is where the guns are being purchased and transported from. They can be traced. And we all know that guns from the States are flooding over our boarder and winding up in the hands of criminals in Toronto. We have known that for years.
 

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You said gun deaths outnumber heroin by 25x. Here’s a tip for you. If your going to classify all gun deaths/types, you do the same with Opiods or do you not know how that works.

Not deflecting at all sheeple. You think cons are sheep and the problem with firearms making their way into democratic states.

and with respect to US gun laws. Ever heard of supply/demand? Dutch’s point is that criminals will get them wherever/however they can. Just look in your own backyard. So by enabling criminals…..
 

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Those aren’t stats. Those are headlines.
Headlines that nobody is argueing.

Again… original post says the Conservative States with soft gun laws is where the guns are being purchased and transported from. They can be traced. And we all know that guns from the States are flooding over our boarder and winding up in the hands of criminals in Toronto. We have known that for years.
another fool that doesn’t know to read.
what do the words Statistics Canada mean to you. That article is because you like Frank obviously need pictures and line graphs too.

And the point again. If enabled criminals here are getting them (demand)…maybe democrats and democratic voters in democratic states should deal with that???? Rocket science I know.
 

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You said gun deaths outnumber heroin by 25x. Here’s a tip for you. If your going to classify all gun deaths/types, you do the same with Opiods or do you not know how that works.

Not deflecting at all sheeple. You think cons are sheep and the problem with firearms making their way into democratic states.

and with respect to US gun laws. Ever heard of supply/demand? Dutch’s point is that criminals will get them wherever/however they can. Just look in your own backyard. So by enabling criminals…..
I said Opiod deaths outnumber gun deaths by 25x? Really? I said that? Care to show me?
 

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Quickly. Re opiods, you’re right, that was dirtyaev. My bad.

Be that as it may, I think the rest can stand. If democratic states are having problems with firearms making their way in. Deal with demand. Stop enabling criminals and do what they can do…no different than we can’t stop or change US gun laws. We can do stuff about demand…which we haven’t, quite the opposite.
 

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Comic book Frank has only been given them dozens of times. Has never not once produced anything to the contrary. Yet still he want to make an utter laughable ass of himself.

Happy to oblige Terbs largest fool and unaware poster


I know comic books are more his speed, so hopefully this picture will help his wanting grey matter I know he has seen more than once


If the poster boy for low iq has stats to the contrary. Post them.

Despite these increases, the crime rate in 2022 was still 4 per cent lower than the rate of non-violent and violent crimes in 2019.
 
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Not getting younger

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Stick to comic books Frank. Not only are you terbs poster boy for, unawareness etc ( you really shouldn’t be allowed to vote Frank, if you have no clue about important topics/issues. Be that who Drummond is,or not knowing about wind farms ). So much so you make JT look smart, you’re also a raging hypocrite. This is how silly that weak attempt is.

1) is climate change measured measured over 1 year? Say one cold winter?

2) Frank have you forgotten what was happening between 2019-2022?. See also asking for stats he’s seen many times.

3) How do you not see or understand this. See also what that means in a weighted Index. “murder rate highest in 30 years: StatCan

4) Nor do you obviously understand what this means
The index for violent crime showed a five-per-cent increase in 2022, following a six-per-cent increase in 2021. The 531,243 violent incidents reported in 2022 are a 39-per-cent increase over the 382,115 reported in 2015
5) nor do you grasp this. You also thought and thinks oranges/harassment are worth much in weighted indexes and treated the same as murder or more serious crimes.
The uptick in violent crime in 2022 was primarily driven by the rise in homicides as well as an increase in armed robbery (15 per cent) and extortion (39 per cent).
6) I could go on and on. The problem Frank is you think you smart, (see asking for stats he’s seen and argued against many times) , when clearly you are so far out of your depth, but all you want to do is argue, even when asked for stats all you can do is cherry pick one down tick ( you likely don’t even know what that means) from a dataset.

Your worse than climate change deniers, who think a cold winter is proof it’s not real. Hell, they put up better arguments
 
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Have a bit of time so doing some light digging.
Californias violent crime.

  • California's violent crime rate increased by 5.7%, from 468 crimes per 100,000 residents in 2021 to 495 in 2022. ...
  • In 2022, aggravated assaults were 67% of reported violent crimes; 25% of violent crimes were robberies, 7% were rapes, and 1% were homicides.
Depending on one’s perspective murder doesn’t seem to be all that big a deal. Maybe democrats there should focus on something other than red herrings and guns..

Let’s look at Californias gun deaths. Stats tell us, when compared against the rest of the US gun control works. And given a murder rate of 1%, maybe democrats should focus on real problems, and things they actually can do.
https://oag.ca.gov/ogvp/data

Maybe there’s something worth seeing in Californias incarceration rates. Not really, other than they likely lock up a ton of immigrants, blacks and Hispanics for relatively petty crimes. It is interesting that gun loving States that don’t wet their knickers, don’t have democrats screaming about red herrings, too much about guns have the lowest incarceration rates.
“Texas has the highest prison population with 133,772 individuals, followed by California with 101,441 individuals. On the other hand, the states with the lowest prison populations are Vermont with 1,287 individuals and Maine with 1,577 prisoners.”
Where does California rate on other factors like have and have nots. While certainly not conclusive, once again it looks like democrats, especially those in well to do urban areas should walk the talk, help those in less well to do areas, ( also not unlike Liberals in the GTA/Ontario) and focus on real problems.

Nearly a third of Californians are living in or near poverty.
  • In early 2023, 31.1% of residents were poor or near poor (with resources up to one and a half times the CPM poverty line), up from 28.7% in fall 2021.
  • The share of Californians who were near poor rose slightly from 17.0% in fall 2021 to 17.9% in early 2023.
 
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You could not be in more denial. Liberals want to make it harder for criminals to get guns. Conservatives are the bribe… I mean political contribution list of the gun lobby. It’s not even a secret. Lol.

Conservatives enable violent crime. They they just refuse to accept responsibility.
Dude you live in an alternate reality. Stricter gun control will not make it that much harder for criminals to get guns. And it will take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
Look at Toronto for instance:

From 2004-2014 Toronto averaged about 223 shootings per year.
From 2015-2022 that jumped to 407 per year. An 82.5% increase.
This despite stricter gun control measures in the latter period than the former.
 

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Stick to comic books Frank. Not only are you terbs poster boy for, unawareness etc ( you really shouldn’t be allowed to vote Frank, if you have no clue about important topics/issues. Be that who Drummond is,or not knowing about wind farms ). So much so you make JT look smart, you’re also a raging hypocrite. This is how silly that weak attempt is.

1) is climate change measured measured over 1 year? Say one cold winter?

2) Frank have you forgotten what was happening between 2019-2022?. See also asking for stats he’s seen many times.

3) How do you not see or understand this. See also what that means in a weighted Index. “murder rate highest in 30 years: StatCan

4) Nor do you obviously understand what this means


5) nor do you grasp this. You also thought and thinks oranges/harassment are worth much in weighted indexes and treated the same as murder or more serious crimes.


6) I could go on and on. The problem Frank is you think you smart, (see asking for stats he’s seen and argued against many times) , when clearly you are so far out of your depth, but all you want to do is argue, even when asked for stats all you can do is cherry pick one down tick ( you likely don’t even know what that means) from a dataset.

Your worse than climate change deniers, who think a cold winter is proof it’s not real. Hell, they put up better arguments
Post your sources, otherwise it looks like you're just making more shit up again.
 
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