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Frankfooter

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The West Bank settlers are not the ones fighting Hamas. Hamas are terrorists that the IDF is trying to eradicate and you should support them in their endeavor both for the benefit of the Israelis and the Palestinians.
Good point. Despite there being no Hamas there Israel is still killing civilians taking over land.
That's why there are posts like this around.



 

toguy5252

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The West Bank settlers are not the ones fighting Hamas. Hamas are terrorists that the IDF is trying to eradicate and you should support them in their endeavor both for the benefit of the Israelis and the Palestinians.
anyone who was truly interested in the future of the Palestinians would be rooting for the idf to rid Gaza of Hamas. Of course the hew haters on the board have no interest in that because the consider it winning when Jewish and Palestinian civilians are killed.
 

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On the issue of settler extremism and violence, I think they deserve a bullet to the head too. Those guys are religious extremists, racists and are just as bad - check video below. And Israel being a racist state, also applies different laws to Palestinians and Israelis.
There are 500,000 settlers in the West Bank.
You gonna kill all of them along with everyone in Gaza who voted for Hamas?
Of course, 50% of Gaza are children that were born after Hamas came to power....
 

Frankfooter

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anyone who was truly interested in the future of the Palestinians would be rooting for the idf to rid Gaza of Hamas. Of course the hew haters on the board have no interest in that because the consider it winning when Jewish and Palestinian civilians are killed.
What about Kautilya who says you also have to get rid of the settlers?

Meanwhile, thousands will die very soon from the lack of medical aid.
Thousands more will die from lack of food and water.

Wounded in northern Gaza risk dying ‘in hours’: MSF

Doctors Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres, or MSF) has warned that thousands of wounded people in northern Gaza “are in serious danger of dying in the next few hours because it’s becoming impossible to get medical attention”.
 

Frankfooter

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Here is an example of you lying. I did not say get rid of ALL settlers. I said settler extremists, but of course you willfully choose to misinterpret and show your racism, lying and gaslighting.
Ok, Kautilya.
How many settlers do you need to have to kill?
How many Hamas do you need to kill?

Tell us how many civilians do you think its acceptable to kill to get rid of those terrorist settlers and Hamas?
Israel's ambassador suggested 600,000 in Gaza.
 

Frankfooter

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Whoever commits terrorist acts, should be neutralized. It does not matter if it is 10 or 100,000. Terrorists, need to go.

It is however not acceptable to kill civilians. Even 1. But unfortunately in these kinds of conflicts there is always huge collateral damages.

Your solutions to avoid this collateral damage and getting rid of apartheid, racism etc are not practical solutions while there is a terrorist group colluding with other nations and acting against Israel (and against Palestinians themselves).

PS: Israel's ambassador was not saying 600K in Gaza. She was talking about Nazi Germany and the civilian deaths there as a comparison to say that the collateral damage is inevitable but worth it.
Your solution of genocide isn't looking very practical either.

 

shack

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Meanwhile, thousands will die very soon from the lack of medical aid.
Thousands more will die from lack of food and water.
Initiated by the attack of Oct. 7 by Hamas.

And as you said, everybody knew that this was going to happen.
 

Frankfooter

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Initiated by the attack of Oct. 7 by Hamas.

And as you said, everybody knew that this was going to happen.
Caused by the 54 year old occupation and apartheid rule.
Caused by the destruction of the two state solution and ongoing colonization and theft of land.

80% of Israeli Jews blame Netanyahu, not Hamas.
 

shack

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Caused by the 54 year old occupation and apartheid rule.
Not CAUSED by. That is simply your justification for killing 1.400 Jewish civilians. Blood lust.

You approve of violence against Jewish civilians.
 

Frankfooter

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Not CAUSED by. That is simply your justification for killing 1.400 Jewish civilians. Blood lust.

You approve of violence against Jewish civilians.
Cause by the 54 year old occupation.

shack, tell me your definition of terrorism.
Tell me how many militants vs civilians both sides have killed.
Tell me which side is killing and targeting more civilians.

Explain to me why you think you're not the terrorist supporter.

70% of Palestinian deaths are women, children and the elderly.
Explain how that is not terrorism.
 

shack

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Frankfooter

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Hamas terrorism. Oct.7. We agree.
Not until you can define what terrorism is, both sides targeted and killed civilians. You need to explain why you think its not terrorism when Jewish people do it and its only terrorism when Palestinians do it.
Otherwise it looks like more racism from you.
 

Frankfooter

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You approve of violence against Jewish civilians.
No, I call for a ceasefire and the end of apartheid.
You call for genocide.

I think you've graduated into the Veltman defence.

An ‘addiction’ to far-right hate: Accused terrorist Nathaniel Veltman’s defence comes into view
After six days with Veltman himself on the stand, a defence in high-profile terrorism trial has — at last — come into view


I'm still backing this crowd.
 

Robert Mugabe

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You say that but 50% of the Palestinians Israel has killed so far are children. They are Palestinians, that is how they identify by race.
Women and children, you are backing killing women and children.


Israel-Palestine war: Israel's urge for revenge is aimed at all Palestinians
What percentage of the 1400 people Palestinians killed October 7th were children? You should have that statistic readily at hand.
 

Frankfooter

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What percentage of the 1400 people Palestinians killed October 7th were children? You should have that statistic readily at hand.
Has Israel released them?
Why don't you find out.

Lets just say whoever kills the most civilians are the bigger terrorists.
Oh, Israel wins that evil contest by about 2000.

How about ratio of civilians to militants?
70 percent of killed in Gaza are women, children, elderly: Ministry


Looks like Israel are the most evil terrorists in this battle.


In the West Bank, where there is no Hamas:
At least 1,782 injured in occupied West Bank since October 7

More will die, Israel is targeting civilians.
Private homes can be ‘legitimate’ targets: Israel military
 

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Ok, so both sides are terrorists.

But you only want to kill one side?
Fucking pathetic hate propaganda.

There are terrorists on both sides. Most people on both sides are humans trying to live their lives.

In the West Bank, Palestinian terrorists have been attacking Jewish civilians (something you've openly supported because you think Jews have no right to be there and like Hamas you don't consider them civilians) and some settler terrorists have targeted Palestinian civilians (and many of them have cone in direct response to Palestinian terrorists killing Jewish civilians)

Hamas are terrorists no matter how you try and deny it as are their allies in PIJ. Israel should take care to reduce risk to civilians but Hamas and PIJ are terrorists and they deserve to feel the consequences of their attacks. And sadly Hamas leaders are quite happy to sacrifice Palestinians in order to keep their wealth and power as they sit safely in other countries.
 
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