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Does anyone believe that Al-Ahli Arab Hospital was hit by the HAMAs?

PeteOsborne

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And this is looking at airburst JDAM?

Meanwhile Israel took out a 1000 year Greek Orthodox church.
Yes, structure pictures I have seen show caved in roofs and surface shrapnel damage to vehicles and pock marks in the mortar on the sides of taller buildings.
The size of the bombs were never mentioned just that they were airburst at 30 meters which would indicate a 500 lb bomb.
Is this the oldest one they have bombed so far or have they hit older ones before.
 

Frankfooter

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Forgot to add this link to a video of a 500 lb JDAM bomb being dropped on a complex, you can see the destruction caused. Fast forward to the 19 second mark
https://www.military.com/video/oper...00lb-bomb-dropped-on-insurgents/1902408244001
None of those are airburst, though.

The high death count and low damage makes it look like it had to be an airburst, people are killed by concussion wave, not shrapnel.
Its designed to kill as many people as possible, not make the biggest amount of destruction.

Your 500 lb bomb video was a ground explosion, which this clearly wasn't.

Same sound as this one bomb attack on another Gaza hospital
 

basketcase

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JDAM in airburst mode.
You can see in the videos of the explosion that the fire is in the air, not coming from the ground.
I love the conspiracy theory that Israel tried to wipe out the hospital by striking the parking lot with an airburst.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, structure pictures I have seen show caved in roofs and surface shrapnel damage to vehicles and pock marks in the mortar on the sides of taller buildings.
The size of the bombs were never mentioned just that they were airburst at 30 meters which would indicate a 500 lb bomb.
Is this the oldest one they have bombed so far or have they hit older ones before.
It also looks like the explosion was lower than 30 metres from the video, though its unclear.
You can't see the entire explosion in the video, the bottom is blocked.

What we do know is that the IDF has repeatedly posted fake video and audio to back up their claim and they have bombed 5 other hospitals and just a couple of hours ago a 1000 year old Greek Orthodox church.

So far you think it looked and sounded like a JDAM but only think the explosion doesn't look like what you expect, is that a correct summary?

 

basketcase

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You are disgusting.
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It's disgusting that Hamas did that.

But look how quickly you've moved on from the hospital since the evidence shows it highly likely it was a failed rocket. I'm sure your next argument is that Hamas and PIJ have to launch rockets because Israel made them.
 

Frankfooter

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It's disgusting that Hamas did that.

But look how quickly you've moved on from the hospital since the evidence shows it highly likely it was a failed rocket. I'm sure your next argument is that Hamas and PIJ have to launch rockets because Israel made them.
I haven't moved on, JT says he's waiting on the evidence.
Most of the world understands that Israel did it.

After all, they've also bombed 5 other hospitals and just now destroyed a 1000 year old Orthodox church.
They intend genocide.

They 'warned' the hospital before they bombed.



They still have to kill 590,000 to hit the number Tzipi suggested.

 

The Oracle

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It's disgusting that Hamas did that.

But look how quickly you've moved on from the hospital since the evidence shows it highly likely it was a failed rocket. I'm sure your next argument is that Hamas and PIJ have to launch rockets because Israel made them.

Well Joe Biden says that Hamas is responsible so it must be so....
 

Frankfooter

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According to you, yes. The more Gazans that die, helps you argue that Israel is evil. That is your goal.
Its kind of amazing how totally messed up your mind is that you even would think this kind of thing.
Most people say 'shit, this is too much death it should stop'
Or 'deaths on both sides are too much'
But here you are not only backing genocide but claiming that you think other people would back genocide of their own people to score a few publicity points. That's so fucked up and twisted its unbelievable. Does your mind really work this way, shack?

Well, I guess we both know it does.
Kind of like Israel that posted this message then promptly went out and killed 1524 children so far.


 

shack

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Its kind of amazing how totally messed up your mind is that you even would think this kind of thing.
Most people say 'shit, this is too much death it should stop'
Or 'deaths on both sides are too much'
Sorry. You have defended and supported the Oct. 7 attack that started all this and you have admitted that you knew that Israel would retaliate. As such you support all the deaths of Gazans. Talk about messed up?
 

Frankfooter

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Sorry. You have defended and supported the Oct. 7 attack that started all this and you have admitted that you knew that Israel would retaliate. As such you support all the deaths of Gazans. Talk about messed up?
No, shack.
I call for a ceasefire and sanctions to end apartheid.
I didn't support any violence.

Stating that this has been a 54 year occupation where everyone knew that both the indigenous people would resist and they have the right to resist an illegal apartheid occupation is not 'supporting' an attack.

You, on the other hand are actively supporting apartheid and genocide. You are actively supporting the occupation that is the root cause of the violence.
You have nothing to offer other than hate speech meant to dehumanize Palestinians to justify genocide.


 

Frankfooter

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Sounds like your leaning towards it being a Qassam rocket. Thanks for all the hard work!!
PeteO also pointed towards evidence that rules out an Islamic Jihad rocket.
From what I've understood from his posts he's just uncertain about the explosion size but is still not comparing it to an airburst weapon.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Right, but Frank doesn’t realize if it were that. Nothing would standing, cars would be strewn about, rubble all over the place. And there would be a deep enough hole, to go swimming in.
Hey if the Jewish has space lasers that can alter voting machines like Marge Greene says, certainly this is possible too
 

dirtydaveiii

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Highly doubtful, the footage doesn't seem to show pock marks on the hospital walls roofs or cars upper surfaces.from fragmentation, as would be expected from an Israeli air-burst weapon.
Yet again, yes, it sounds exactly like a JDAM.
The smallest JDAM is a 500 lb bomb.
Here is a video explaining how powerful a 500 lb bomb is.
The blast area is around 30m wide and would have demolished all the cars in the parking lot and many of the trees etc.leaving shrapnel embedded in the mortar of the buildings etc.
I have been searching for pictures or video of intercepted missiles as well as ones with engine failures.
This is the closest I found so far to the images of the parking lot at the hospital.
A Qassam missile dropped into a town called Sderot on Nov.11, 2007.
View attachment 267891

This is a street impact of a Qassam in Sderot


The burnt out cars look similar and the crater hole is close to the same as the one next to the fence in the hospital praking lot.

Here is one where the engine section fell seperate from the rest of the rocket. It looks similar to the hole in the parking lot but whatever made the hole in the parking lot was removed before the pictures and video were taken.
View attachment 267897
Nice work
 

y2kmark

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From what I'm hearing in all this advanced weaponry jargon, a single explosion killed around 500 people at one time, and yet it's not considered a weapon of mass destruction. A half dozen get squashed trying to gawk at a deep shipwreck and the world mourns. Things just keep getting scarier, not even counting Friday he 13th and Haloween coming up...
 

Frankfooter

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From what I'm hearing in all this advanced weaponry jargon, a single explosion killed around 500 people at one time, and yet it's not considered a weapon of mass destruction. A half dozen get squashed trying to gawk at a deep shipwreck and the world mourns. Things just keep getting scarier, not even counting Friday he 13th and Haloween coming up...
Airburst.

Its a smaller explosion with less shrapnel.
People are killed by the shock wave or pressure wave.
 
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