Here in Toronto only a few dozen showed up to protest for more Israeli genocide.
Protests for Palestinian rights and a ceasefire are massive globally in comparison.
Does anyone believe that Al-Ahli Arab Hospital was hit by the HAMAs?
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Protests for Palestinian rights and a ceasefire are massive globally in comparison.
I asked when are the photos of the dead bodies from the IDF strike on the hospital going to be presented, NOT the Hamas/Islamic Jihad rocket that struck the hospital parking lot.
Maybe this is the time we painfully point out another big difference when it comes to our values/morals and theirs for him.
Do we or Israel routinely stack and parade the dead like so much cold meat, for photo ops? Show such an utter disregard for the value of human life?
This one has the same JDAM sound as the one that allegedly hit the hospital
There was only an IDF rocket that hit the Al-Ahli Hospital.
Israel has also hit 5 and put 5 other hospitals out of commission and threatened to bomb 22 others.
Al J and others have shown the IDF claims are fake.
The roof warpage is caused by heat then rapid cooling most likely from water to extinguish the fires.
This is a picture of cars burnt by the Maui wildfires, although some claim the Israeli space lazers caused this as well.
Looking at he site from your posted video perspective leads me to believe that this was a mid air small rocket failure.
When it hit the ground it was tumbling and the small charge impacted and exploded at the front of the car flipping it and damaging the car next to it.
The fuel tank in the center section seperated going over the top of the car, ruptured and caused the fire while the engine section caused the crater.
Still doesn't explain the eyewitness video which seemed to be a JDAM from the sound and a larger explosion.
Thats my take on it so far from everything I have seen.
Yeah, it could be fog of war, rush to get a story out or plain outright lying, which as no one can argue that they haven't lied about these things before.
It could be half truths as well with fabrications to enhance their train of events.
The video evidence from Al Jazeera for example, I watched it once and dismissed it.
The out going rocket appears to be intercepted then crashes to the left then about 2 seconds later the explosion at the hospital occurs.
The contradictory information applies to the eyewitness video as well the sound and explosive effect is not concurrrent with the damege witnessed in the ground.
One indicates a JDAM with a large warhead while the other indicates a small charge rocket or fuel fired rocket.
The eyewitness video indicates that the IDF targeted the hospital parking lot with a JDAM while the other points to an engine failure meaning it was an accident.
The Al Jazeera feed shows an intercept with debris falling to the ground and a large bomb impact somewhere left of it.
Al Jazeera tracked the rocket that the IDF claimed was the one to hit the hospital. It was destroyed in the air, they have video to back that up.
No rockets were fired by Palestinians after that rocket and before the hospital was attacked.
That video analysis is here and worth a watch.
The UK Channel 4 analysis also looked at Israel's posted video and audio claims and found them faked.
But probably the one that would be most interesting to you is this one by an American weapons expert, he says the sound before the explosion identifies the weapons as an airburst JDAM.
Gaza death toll nears that of Srebrenica genocide
www.middleeastmonitor.com
Good to know Al Jazeera agrees with me on the missile intercept.Al Jazeera tracked the rocket that the IDF claimed was the one to hit the hospital. It was destroyed in the air, they have video to back that up.
No rockets were fired by Palestinians after that rocket and before the hospital was attacked.
That video analysis is here and worth a watch.
The UK Channel 4 analysis also looked at Israel's posted video and audio claims and found them faked.
But probably the one that would be most interesting to you is this one by an American weapons expert, he says the sound before the explosion identifies the weapons as an airburst JDAM.
Gaza death toll nears that of Srebrenica genocide
I have repeatedly said that it sounded like a JDAM.
He does not indentify it specifically as an airburst JDAM, they both make the same sounds.
What they didn't ask him was to look at the damage in the parking lot and explain why there is so much fire damage and not much explosive damage.
I would be interested on his take.
You think a Palestinian rocket that was intercepted would still be intact enough to cause this size of an explosion?
That doesn't sound reasonable given the debris pattern shown on the video.
Sorry, bad link. This is the link to US vet Dylan Griffith's take.
Middle East Monitor on Instagram: "US weapons expert debunks Israel’s denial of Gaza hospital strike Speaking to MEMO, weapons expert and US Army veteran Dylan Griffith challenged Israel's claim that it was a Palestinian 'misfired rocket' and not the Israeli military that struck the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital on 17 October 2023, killing over 500 Palestinian civilians. Griffith examines the available visual evidence to refute Israel's version of events, which has now been endorsed by US President Joe Biden."
28K likes, 910 comments - middleeastmonitor on October 18, 2023: "US weapons expert debunks Israel’s denial of Gaza hospital strike Speaking to MEMO, weapons expert and US Army veteran Dylan Griffith challenged Israel's claim that it was a Palestinian 'misfired rocket' and not the Israeli...
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No, in the Al Jazeera video the rocket and fuel appear to be totally destroyed mid air and the impact on the ground don't make a big fireball and goes out instantly while the large explosion to the left remains burning.
Could we keep the descriptors straight please, alleged Islamic Jihad rocket not a Palestinian or Hamas rocket.
Yes I have seen that video as well, I agree with him but again they never show him the ground pictures or video and never ask him about the damage caused there.Sorry, bad link. This is the link to US vet Dylan Griffith's take.
Middle East Monitor on Instagram: "US weapons expert debunks Israel’s denial of Gaza hospital strike Speaking to MEMO, weapons expert and US Army veteran Dylan Griffith challenged Israel's claim that it was a Palestinian 'misfired rocket' and not the Israeli military that struck the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital on 17 October 2023, killing over 500 Palestinian civilians. Griffith examines the available visual evidence to refute Israel's version of events, which has now been endorsed by US President Joe Biden."
28K likes, 910 comments - middleeastmonitor on October 18, 2023: "US weapons expert debunks Israel’s denial of Gaza hospital strike Speaking to MEMO, weapons expert and US Army veteran Dylan Griffith challenged Israel's claim that it was a Palestinian 'misfired rocket' and not the Israeli...
Its not confirmed whether the destroyed rocket was Islamic Jihad or Hamas, is it?
In the Al J video the rocket was destroyed in the air and couldn't have caused such a large explosion? The rocket was also past its peak trajectory, wasn't it? That would mean that most of the fuel would be spent. And a destroyed rocket wouldn't sound like that from the graveyard video of the hit, as noted in the instagram US vet post.
The IDF claims are pretty lame. The phone call was recording in stereo, I'm not sure how they would justify two people in a room or on one radio channel posting hard L/R pans.
Even the IDF claims for a launch point are messed up, they've claimed one 5km away and one right next to the hospital which also wouldn't make sense since it was shot down during descent, it would have had to go straight up and come straight down.
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Meanwhile bbc retracts their initial anti israel bullshit, air burst and all
www.bbc.com
Gaza hospital: What video, pictures and other evidence tell us about Al-Ahli hospital blast
BBC Verify is analysing evidence from the Al-Ahli hospital explosion amid competing claims over responsibility.
www.bbc.com
The Al Ahli Hospital attack was only one of 17 hospitals that Israel has bombed.Meanwhile bbc retracts their initial anti israel bullshit, air burst and all
Gaza hospital: What video, pictures and other evidence tell us about Al-Ahli hospital blast
BBC Verify is analysing evidence from the Al-Ahli hospital explosion amid competing claims over responsibility.
Its just the one with the biggest number of deaths.
Its genocide.
The report also says the World Health Organization (WHO) documented 59 attacks on healthcare facilities, including 17 hospitals and 23 ambulances. The attacks have killed at least 491 people, including 16 on-duty healthcare workers.
Israeli bombings also targeted 170 educational facilities and severely damaged the Gaza Strip’s water and sanitation facilities.
Right, but Frank doesn’t realize if it were that. Nothing would standing, cars would be strewn about, rubble all over the place. And there would be a deep enough hole, to go swimming in.
Why do you keep posting stuff I have already discounted and agreed with in previous posts?
Like I posted, The rocket in Al Jazeera video does not appear to be the rocket that hit the parking lot.
Additionally, yes, again, the incoming rocket sounds like a JDAM from the eyewitness video.
The phone call has been exposed as made up, which I mentioned as fabricated evidence.
As for the rocket, there have been no posts, evidence, claims by any sources, anywhere, at all, of Hamas firing rockets on that evening anywhere in Gaza that I have seen.
The ony ones indicated were the Islamic Jihad and the IDF.
One of these hit the parking lot.
