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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

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Klatuu said:
Are you referring to this?

“The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, issued on 14 May 1948, offered “the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel … full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.” This ostensibly universal provision was no more, at this delicate moment, than necessary lip-service paid to the international community by the signatories of the Declaration: “the representatives of the Jewish Community of Eretz-Israel and of the Zionist Movement.”

I can see why you didn’t post this text or the link. It says that it was completely meaningless.

It goes on to say this:

“ Right from the beginning, Israel's leaders took measures and adopted policies that rendered the idea of citizenship empty and meaningless insofar as the indigenous Palestinians were concerned.”
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You mean pretty much like Canada and indigenous people here. Might say exactly like.

Difference being we don’t have 10s of millions of Arabs surrounding us, trying to wipe us out. Nor are they firing rockets intoToronto?
 
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toguy5252 said:
Since day 1 they have been sold the dream of driving the jews out.
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If you have read my posts and I know you have then you would know that I have been a supporter of the 2state solution and the sovereign aspirations of the Palestinian pole. it is you and you fellow travelers who have prevented this from occurring by feeding the people the lie of driving the Jews out and a 1 state solution which will NEVER happen.
 
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toguy5252 said:
If you have read my posts and I know you have then you would know that I have been a supporter of the 2state solution and the sovereign aspirations of the Palestinian pole. it is you and you fellow travelers who have prevented this from occurring by feeding the people the lie of driving the Jews out and a 1 state solution which will NEVER happen.
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Bullshit, you have repeatedly defended increasing settlements and apartheid.
The one state solution is already in practice.
Even basketcase has admitted that Israel has erased the state of Palestine, all that is left is apartheid Israel.

basketcase said:
Because there has never been a Palestinian state.
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I know you will never read the words of a Palestinian, but you really should.
This is written by a Palestinian prof of sociology in Calgary.
Its not hate speech, its what you should understand Palestinians feel and see.
If you wanted a two state solution this is exactly the type of person you should have worked with.

www.aljazeera.com

Palestinians are showing that they will not be erased

Palestinians have reminded the world of their existence, and struggle for freedom in the only way that works.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
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Frankfooter said:
No they didn't.
They made plans for war before partition to happen at the start of partition.
That war involved ethnically cleansing as much of Palestine as they could.

Which has basically been going on since.

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This ties in very nicely with the "Israel at War" thread.; Odd how many think the current fighting is a surprise...
 
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Klatuu said:
While everyone is distracted by the unfolding war crimes in Gaza, ethnic cleansing and genocide is being prepared for in the West Bank.
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Wow, Hamas disgustingly butchered 1000 civilians in cold blood but you're upset people aren't posting about a blocked road? Shit that's pathetic.
 
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Klatuu said:
Are you referring to this?

“The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, issued on 14 May 1948, offered “the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel … full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.” This ostensibly universal provision was no more, at this delicate moment, than necessary lip-service paid to the international community by the signatories of the Declaration: “the representatives of the Jewish Community of Eretz-Israel and of the Zionist Movement.”

I can see why you didn’t post this text or the link. It says that it was completely meaningless.

It goes on to say this:

“ Right from the beginning, Israel's leaders took measures and adopted policies that rendered the idea of citizenship empty and meaningless insofar as the indigenous Palestinians were concerned.”
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You may wish to mention that to the 10 Arab members of Knesset.
 
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toguy5252 said:
You may wish to mention that to the 10 Arab members of Knesset.
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You may wish to revisit the Warsaw Ghetto. Not that you'd ever listen to what a Palestinian living in Gaza has to say.

Gaza 2023: Our Warsaw Uprising moment
The people of Gaza have given the Palestinian struggle a new impetus, a new direction.

It is Gaza again! But it is different this time! Instead of reacting to one of apartheid Israel’s regular genocidal attacks, the resistance movements have taken the “first” step in an unprecedented move.

Instead of waiting for Israel’s “generosity” when it decides, through mediators, to open one of the seven gates of the largest open-air prisons on earth, the inmates – having learned from the Warsaw Uprising of 1944 – decided to bring it down themselves.

The deadly medieval siege that has been imposed on Gaza since 2007 – supported by the European Union and the United States – along with recurrent genocidal wars launched by Israel are an attempt to make the Palestinians of Gaza disappear – albeit slowly and painfully.

No more! Enough is enough.

The resistance movements in Gaza, right and left, have decided to turn the table upside down. They have given the Palestinian struggle a new impetus, a clear direction towards liberation and decolonisation.

In 1948, to implement this racist ideology, ethnic cleansing was the solution. And in 1967, enslavement became the only option.

In the face of this reality, Palestinians have reached common ground on the enemy being settler colonialism, but they have failed to agree on how decolonisation should be understood and achieved.

In recent years, there has been a radical shift in the strategic thinking on this point, one that looks at Israeli-Palestinian relations within the framework of settler colonialism and apartheid.
True liberation within this context means achieving true equality in historic Palestine after the return of all Palestinian refugees to the towns and villages from which they were ethnically cleansed in 1948.

A vision of liberation

No wonder Gaza has decided to take this unprecedented move. Two-thirds of Gazans are refugees entitled to their right of return in accordance with United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 of 1948.

It is rumoured that the resistance fighters who managed to enter Sderot are the grandsons of refugees from the village of Huj, which was ethnically cleansed by Zionist militias in 1948 and renamed Sderot. Others are from the village of Hirbya, renamed Zikim by the Israelis.

They have dared to do the “unthinkable,” i.e., return, not as visitors granted permission by the coloniser but as liberators upholding their right to their ancestral land.

This radical act of return points to the post-Zionist future we should envision that will bring liberation to all.

Liberation for us means dismantling the structures of Zionist settler colonialism and apartheid and addressing the inequalities and injustices it has inflicted on us, the indigenous population of Palestine, over the past 100 years.

Liberation for us aims to transform the relationship between Palestinians and Israelis into one based on total equality and justice. The settler society is expected to abandon all colonial privileges and display real willingness to accept responsibility for past crimes and injustices. The compromise that indigenous Palestinians are expected to offer is to accept settlers as equal citizens in the new state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

This is the path to peace and security, and the international community, which has long accepted Israel’s war crimes against the Palestinians and has even been complicit in them, will have to embrace it.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Deflect, no point out what's happening in the media.
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Nice that you've adopted the right's conspiracies about mainstream media and combined it with you antisemitic conspiracies about jewish control.

Media isn't hiding Palestinian deaths. Many of them do see a difference between civilians killed in a strike on Hamas military targets and civilians killed in a door to door ISIS style butchery.
 
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