I started hobbying back in the 1990's when I started going to the downtown U of T campus for my degree, it was all newspaper ads back then in the Toronto Sun classified ads, Now magazine, and all the hot girls were downtown within walking distance of U of T so that was where I focused my time. I used to spend my free time early on seeing like 2-3 escorts per week back then. I got married because it was the thing to do when I was about 29 and had a bunch of kids and then had to cut down so as not to get caught but was still seeing girls regularly, maybe once or twice a month. Wasn't until maybe 8 years ago when I really started cutting down, the novelty has worn down, I've seen 100's of the most beautiful young sexy girls in Toronto the last 30 years and have done things with some of them you only see in Porn movies but the excitement is not there anymore. Also too many scams and fake girls with Backpages back when it was available and now Leolist, just not worth it for me anymore to waste my time, I am still married and maybe see one agency girl per year now when I get the occasional itch and want to treat myself.
Effects of hobbying
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The answer to this question very much depends on the individual.
Some guys are just too shy or socially awkward to get any sort of civi girl. For them hookers are the only option for sex, and the hobby has a positive effect on them.
Some guys are socially Adept enough to get a decent civi girl and carry on a relationship with her, but they also have the urge for variety as well as an enjoyment of doing plain old dirty things that the wife just won’t do. I’m in this category. The hobby has a positive effect in that it provides an outlet for these urges and can keep the civi relationship stable. I find that when I get a bit frustrated with my wife’s reluctance to go beyond vanilla I book a session and enjoy the world revolving around my needs for 30 minutes.
There is a third class of guys here, ones who could get a civi girl if they wanted to, but lack the self confidence to try. Some of these guys are so desperate for a relationship that they start to confuse a hooker for a girl friend and wind up being exploited.
The thing to keep uppermost in your mind is that a hooker’s goal is to extract resources from you. While it is possible to form a true friendship or even more with one of them, it is rare. It is not at all uncommon for them to manipulate vulnerable men to their advantage; deep down in their heart of hearts they all fantasize about financial domination.
Some guys are just too shy or socially awkward to get any sort of civi girl. For them hookers are the only option for sex, and the hobby has a positive effect on them.
Some guys are socially Adept enough to get a decent civi girl and carry on a relationship with her, but they also have the urge for variety as well as an enjoyment of doing plain old dirty things that the wife just won’t do. I’m in this category. The hobby has a positive effect in that it provides an outlet for these urges and can keep the civi relationship stable. I find that when I get a bit frustrated with my wife’s reluctance to go beyond vanilla I book a session and enjoy the world revolving around my needs for 30 minutes.
There is a third class of guys here, ones who could get a civi girl if they wanted to, but lack the self confidence to try. Some of these guys are so desperate for a relationship that they start to confuse a hooker for a girl friend and wind up being exploited.
The thing to keep uppermost in your mind is that a hooker’s goal is to extract resources from you. While it is possible to form a true friendship or even more with one of them, it is rare. It is not at all uncommon for them to manipulate vulnerable men to their advantage; deep down in their heart of hearts they all fantasize about financial domination.
I don’t believe this. Since when would an SP ever buy a cake for a client?Imagine it's a special birthday for you and she arranges her schedule so she can see you on that special day... she dresses up and at the end you celebrate with the cake she bought you...
Connections... it's all in the connections!!!
If you are young between say 20 and 30 and have no game and haven't dated or been in even the shortest relationship then caution and moderation is well advised... Because it gets in the way of maturing as a man, part of which is learning how to deal with women and the emotions/drama that come with them...And once you start getting into the hobby you may not want to go back for a while to dating civilians... Of course, if you start your dating life when you're 40, the options available to you won't be great unless you're exceptional in some kind of way...
For the older "experiencened" gents, single or divorced this hobby is a birth right, assuming we know what we're getting into and remind ourselves of that every now and then...
I wish I knew about the hobby back in my twenties when I was breaking up and feeling like s*** for months on end...
Nowadays I think about the hobby as the great equalizer... You're much less likely to stay with someone crappy and you've got options in case things go south...
Why the f....k would I lie???
I really respect the girl and she respects me.
I think she was honored that I would want to spend time with her on my special day.
I've been doing this since 2014 now and I've met some really great girls but things just click with this girl.
Yes, watching her ride me is amazing but I get just as much, if not more from the chats we have before and after.
This girl is a dime a dozen... for me at least!!!
I think I know who you are talking about.
She was mentioning on Twitter, something for a client on their birthday.
Some of the other girls were trying to shame her for doing that.
She said "Why".
She went up a couple of points in my book.
Lots of class.
LD
I started hobbying when my marriage was falling apart almost 20 years ago, the sex stopped and it was a great option - once I got back to dating I still hobbied but more for variety and fun. Now, I am in a relationship with a wonderful woman and have a couple of FWB on the side still hobby occasionally - Finances are very tight at the moment so still only hobby 4-5 times a year.
Jesus can't believe this thread is still rolling. One more point for men of a certain age...
No woman my age can take the fucking I can deal out after this much practice.
If you know, you know...
No woman my age can take the fucking I can deal out after this much practice.
If you know, you know...
I said this an another thread but think it will be helpful here.
I see SPs and SCs as kinda like going to a restaurant or buffet.
Here’s my analogy: I like to think that I’m pretty good at cooking, eat a healthy diet and shop at the grocery store (civilians) but every now and then I want to go to a restaurant (incall) or to a buffet (SC/MP).
But if I only ate at restaurants, it would soon become expensive, unhealthy and would even lose its lustre.
But it does allow me to try something new which makes me a better cook and more informed shopper at the grocery store.
This way, instead of buying in bulk at the grocery store, I can say no I don’t need to buy that in bulk because I tried a little at the restaurant/buffet or conversely I might decide to load up at the grocery store if I find something I like based on my experience at the restaurant or buffet.
For those straight line thinkers: this is a metaphor and not about food!
I see SPs and SCs as kinda like going to a restaurant or buffet.
Here’s my analogy: I like to think that I’m pretty good at cooking, eat a healthy diet and shop at the grocery store (civilians) but every now and then I want to go to a restaurant (incall) or to a buffet (SC/MP).
But if I only ate at restaurants, it would soon become expensive, unhealthy and would even lose its lustre.
But it does allow me to try something new which makes me a better cook and more informed shopper at the grocery store.
This way, instead of buying in bulk at the grocery store, I can say no I don’t need to buy that in bulk because I tried a little at the restaurant/buffet or conversely I might decide to load up at the grocery store if I find something I like based on my experience at the restaurant or buffet.
For those straight line thinkers: this is a metaphor and not about food!
I started when my wife went over a year without having sex with me. She was in her late 50's. Years later she still hasn't. Not a BJ. Not a HJ. Nothing. She figures we are too old to do it. I guess I'm cheating, but she's cheating me out of a normal sex life. No?
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For the older divorced men that aren't able to land attractive younger girls, doing this makes perfect sense. I am relieved that the hottest girls I've been with have all be civilians.
As for everyone else (men and women) this industry is incredibly damaging, especially long term. I'm always happy for the girls that manage to quickly hit their financial goal and get out as soon as they can.
The world is already fake enough, a real genuine relationship for both men and women will always be better than this.
As for everyone else (men and women) this industry is incredibly damaging, especially long term. I'm always happy for the girls that manage to quickly hit their financial goal and get out as soon as they can.
The world is already fake enough, a real genuine relationship for both men and women will always be better than this.
Hobbying provides men with sexual experiences they wouldn't otherwise have, or at the very least aren't willing to
put the time/money into having. Some of my experiences with SP's have been basically heavenly and I don't regret
the financial cost one bit.
It's never changed my opinion of women or how I treat civilian women. If anything, it's just allowed me to be more
relaxed around civilian women.
Provided the SP is freely choosing the profession and is treated well by the guy, I think it's a perfectly moral adult arrangement to have.
put the time/money into having. Some of my experiences with SP's have been basically heavenly and I don't regret
the financial cost one bit.
It's never changed my opinion of women or how I treat civilian women. If anything, it's just allowed me to be more
relaxed around civilian women.
Provided the SP is freely choosing the profession and is treated well by the guy, I think it's a perfectly moral adult arrangement to have.
Well said... you're a gentleman..
I had a longstanding relationship prior to dabbling in the hobby. It ended poorly, which is likely what spurred me towards the hobby in the first place. I still dabbled with dating while I hobbied, but never really hit it off until a few years ago. Since meeting my current girlfriend, I haven't hobbied, though I continue to peruse these boards sometimes out of boredom.
What I learned from this is that while I find a thrill from the hobby, it's nowhere near the thrill of finding a meaningful relationship and delving into that. Ironically, although SPs are more experienced, I find the sex so much more enjoyable and hot with someone I'm into on a deep, intimate level. But I may be unusual in that regard. After all, I actually have difficulty kissing SPs, whereas most people on this board go hunting for it!
What I learned from this is that while I find a thrill from the hobby, it's nowhere near the thrill of finding a meaningful relationship and delving into that. Ironically, although SPs are more experienced, I find the sex so much more enjoyable and hot with someone I'm into on a deep, intimate level. But I may be unusual in that regard. After all, I actually have difficulty kissing SPs, whereas most people on this board go hunting for it!
You get addicted easily then have no drive to seek normal relationships. I would never recommend this to a young person. They'll end up socially awkward with 0 real relationship experience and have wild expectations of what sex and a relationship is but that is a fantasy you pay for
Never date one of these providers they'll fleece you and have mental issues such as personality disorders. Their job is to basically lie full-time so that you feel good about yourself and become a repeat. I'm sure there are providers that are living a normal life after this but I am guessing that is extremely rare
Never date one of these providers they'll fleece you and have mental issues such as personality disorders. Their job is to basically lie full-time so that you feel good about yourself and become a repeat. I'm sure there are providers that are living a normal life after this but I am guessing that is extremely rare
then again it may be easier to find a genuine “paid for” relationship than a civilian one
I actually read from page 1 to 12 on this post. Some advice and opinions were great, some a bit judgey, my only wish were for some SP to chime in and make some corrections to the usual stereotypes that continue to be repeated and accepted as fact.
Best advice for any hobby- “Pan metron ariston” - Kleovoulos o Lindios in the 6th century B.C. and means “everything in moderation”.
Best advice for any hobby- “Pan metron ariston” - Kleovoulos o Lindios in the 6th century B.C. and means “everything in moderation”.
