Effects of hobbying
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You're not a Romantic?!
Maybe this will help: Mary Magdalene was a hooker. Our boy, Jesus Christ Netflixed and Chilled with her.
Christians are suckers for SPs. That's what I tell myself when I tell others I'm Christian.
I see a lot of people in this tread warning people not to start, but did you guys regret starting?
I think most of us are warning young guys who have their whole lives ahead of them not to start or to get out and find a girl.
A lot of us older guys have had failed marriages or are in bad relationships, have limited options and more disposable income, so this hobby is ideal. How else are we going to get with hot 20-somethings? Or even hot 30-somethings? I'd never advise an older guy to stop unless it was ruining him financially.
This is me except that I ask myself “What’s her rate?” after she rejected me when I asked her out.
No. I don't regret starting.
I did date a little bit before I began.
The last regular civilian left me emotionally scarred.
Sp's helped me understand the value I had, and how people(I am pointing the finger at Society) put Women on a pedestal.
The lasting effect seeing Sp's has on me, was to understand what kind of woman I wanted, and
weed out some of the bad ones I might have chased in the past. (It is not just about looks.)
It also made me understand how F***cked up people are with their relationship expectations.
The guys that these Women chose over me were losers.
I am not thinking with my "hormones" anymore, when it comes to marriage.
Rather I just work on bettering myself.
Eventually, i will get out of this trap called "Toronto".
LD
For some of Us , the Dick will probably fall off ! just a matter of time ....lol
Hobby with moderation...you can call it your "me time"..don't spend more than you can afford and make sure money spent is something kicking around your own pocket and doesn't affect household necessities... You wouldn't want your SO go CRA on you....I stopped seeing SPS more than a decade ago and only see MPs now...I also don't engage in FS in MPs...(not my thing anymore)...remember there are other fun stuff you can still do without the FS....I don't know what you do but I'm in the business that can get stressful at times and don't we just need to exercise some "inner demons" at times? My sex life is pretty active too and I also have another hobby (fishing) that keeps me busy...again...keep it moderate...
Regret is a strong word.
The amount of money over the years is crazy. Don't even want to think about it. That would be the first reason not to start, way too much money for the average guy.
Secondly, my tolerance for drama is zero with most women cause I know I can book with an SP. Sometimes you need to work through things and booking gives me too easy a way out.
Finally, you are always on the clock and that can leave with with an empty feeling after. I have spent off the clock time with several SPs which is fun but not typical.
What I have enjoyed is the variety of women, the exploration of some different things which I would have been nervous to bring up with a GF, and now being with some younger women who I would have no chance with now.
A lot has been said here. Can't contain myself to this juicy topic. Here's my $0.02:
- In my mind, having fun with a SP is NOT cheating, its just business, for both parties. No feeling involved.
- Only you will live your life and only you will know the real you. Any "soulmate" will probably know 50% of the real you at best. So you should live your life the way YOU want.
- Fulfilling all the duties of a husband and father does not mean you cannot have some time for your own mental and physical reboot. A fun session every now and then with an SP is a reboot to bounce back in civil life.
- No one should know what you do with your free time and extra money.
- Life is too short for regrets.
The best one:
- You can enjoy the best of both worlds. You don't have to make a choice.
Cheers!
- In my mind, having fun with a SP is NOT cheating, its just business, for both parties. No feeling involved.
- Only you will live your life and only you will know the real you. Any "soulmate" will probably know 50% of the real you at best. So you should live your life the way YOU want.
- Fulfilling all the duties of a husband and father does not mean you cannot have some time for your own mental and physical reboot. A fun session every now and then with an SP is a reboot to bounce back in civil life.
- No one should know what you do with your free time and extra money.
- Life is too short for regrets.
The best one:
- You can enjoy the best of both worlds. You don't have to make a choice.
Cheers!
I don't care what anyone does in their personal life but I don't see how sleeping with someone else if you are in a relationship with someone else is not cheating (unless it's an open relationship).
Again, don't care one bit if you or any other member here is in a relationship but that's a weird way of denying the fact that you are cheating when you see SPs in a committed relationship.
Hobbying is like any kind of complex relationship. Too much of one thing can cause issues in other areas. Balance is key to enjoy all parts of Life including this profession.
Just came across this thread now and wanted to provide my thoughts- sorry if its a little late to the party. Early 30s, very strict conservative household, only really started even talking/dating girls after 25. Still single with no real long term relationship. mostly 6 month to year max casual dating. My 2 cents are:
Do I regret start starting?
- No, seeing escorts actually solved my strip club addiction. I used to be the guy in college who was to afraid to talk to girls at the bar so would always want to end the night at the titty bar. Would end up spending 100-160 on just basic dances that went nowhere. It became so bad that friends didn't want to hang out with me because they knew I would want to end up at zanzabar or the brass rail every night out.
Now I have absolutely no intention to ever enter one of those places and hand out $20 just to walk up a flight of stairs
Also, its given me so much more confidence at bars because now I know I can shoot my shot and get rejected. I'm not desperate to get laid when I go out because at the back of my mind, i can get it easily with a quick terb search.
- everyone gets into this for different reasons, and I think no matter what that is, its valid and can help you get through a stage in your life. Now on to the second point:
Is it dangerous and should i Stop?
- Hell Yes.
I'm not as concerned with the financial costs as I'm pretty frugal in life and honestly just taking a tinder girl out for drinks and apps these days costs you minimum $100 that goes nowhere. Sometimes its cheaper just to get laid with an escort than taking out 5 tinder girls that you just want to fuck and hopefully you get lucky. But if you get addicted, it can lead to serious financial costs, especially if you already have a wife and kids. However, its a vice, and other men blow their money on gambling so to each their own.
The more scary one is that Its killed my sex drive in the normal world. This one hurts and it's may be to much info to share but whatever. Somebody else earlier mentioned earlier they can't cum and I have that same issue. After I've slept with a civie girl I just don't get the same excitement. Something about seeing an escort for the first time, her opening the door and that anticipation of the unknown just fuels me. It kills that desire to be with a girl multiple times. Its become work to finish with girls I get into relationships with.
Third is STD. I went to Spain recently and hit up the brothels near my place. Towards the end of my trip I met this great girl and as we were hooking up she asked me if I was clean, and honestly didn't know what to say. This hobby is something you can keep private and hidden, but if it ever gets out, can destroy your life. I'm glad I got in to it, but also trying to get out
Do I regret start starting?
- No, seeing escorts actually solved my strip club addiction. I used to be the guy in college who was to afraid to talk to girls at the bar so would always want to end the night at the titty bar. Would end up spending 100-160 on just basic dances that went nowhere. It became so bad that friends didn't want to hang out with me because they knew I would want to end up at zanzabar or the brass rail every night out.
Now I have absolutely no intention to ever enter one of those places and hand out $20 just to walk up a flight of stairs
Also, its given me so much more confidence at bars because now I know I can shoot my shot and get rejected. I'm not desperate to get laid when I go out because at the back of my mind, i can get it easily with a quick terb search.
- everyone gets into this for different reasons, and I think no matter what that is, its valid and can help you get through a stage in your life. Now on to the second point:
Is it dangerous and should i Stop?
- Hell Yes.
I'm not as concerned with the financial costs as I'm pretty frugal in life and honestly just taking a tinder girl out for drinks and apps these days costs you minimum $100 that goes nowhere. Sometimes its cheaper just to get laid with an escort than taking out 5 tinder girls that you just want to fuck and hopefully you get lucky. But if you get addicted, it can lead to serious financial costs, especially if you already have a wife and kids. However, its a vice, and other men blow their money on gambling so to each their own.
The more scary one is that Its killed my sex drive in the normal world. This one hurts and it's may be to much info to share but whatever. Somebody else earlier mentioned earlier they can't cum and I have that same issue. After I've slept with a civie girl I just don't get the same excitement. Something about seeing an escort for the first time, her opening the door and that anticipation of the unknown just fuels me. It kills that desire to be with a girl multiple times. Its become work to finish with girls I get into relationships with.
Third is STD. I went to Spain recently and hit up the brothels near my place. Towards the end of my trip I met this great girl and as we were hooking up she asked me if I was clean, and honestly didn't know what to say. This hobby is something you can keep private and hidden, but if it ever gets out, can destroy your life. I'm glad I got in to it, but also trying to get out
If you're in a relationship and you think it won't ruin it, you're crazy. After seeing SPs, your wife just won't compare. You'll never want to have sex with her. I wish I never went down this road. Porn too can kill a relationship.
You should have skipped marriage and continued meeting new women.
Eventually you will slip up, ruin both your lives and that will be expensive for you.
There will be times in a long term relationship or marriage were sex becomes an issue, whether it's you want more or you feel like she's using it as a power play.
You know you have the option of secretly seeing an escort so you don't give a shit and don't get pulled into that manipulation .
You know you have the option of secretly seeing an escort so you don't give a shit and don't get pulled into that manipulation .
True , but so can Drinking, drugs and gambling .
Fun thread. My two cents:
- If you’re under 35, see SPs sparingly if at all unless you have a “real” SO. Otherwise you’re unlikely to work hard enough at a relationship.
- If you’re older and you still like to be with young, slutty sexual partners, you’re going to be paying to fuck younger girls whether you call it dating, marriage or hobbying. For the most part, hot 21-year-olds aren’t attracted to 40+ year old guys unless the guys are shoveling out money.
- Of course the girls are doing it for the money. We all do things for money. Doesn’t mean they don’t sometimes enjoy it.
- If you’re under 35, see SPs sparingly if at all unless you have a “real” SO. Otherwise you’re unlikely to work hard enough at a relationship.
- If you’re older and you still like to be with young, slutty sexual partners, you’re going to be paying to fuck younger girls whether you call it dating, marriage or hobbying. For the most part, hot 21-year-olds aren’t attracted to 40+ year old guys unless the guys are shoveling out money.
- Of course the girls are doing it for the money. We all do things for money. Doesn’t mean they don’t sometimes enjoy it.
This is a good point. Something that didn't occur to me when I started seeing MPAs in 2017 and escorts in 2021. Kind of thought it would be emotionless, passionless, all business.
In fact, most of the SPs I've seen seemed to enjoy it. Granted, some could have been faking. I think DFK is a good gauge to determine if she's enjoying it. If she does it aggressively, she's probably into it.
Not being judgemental here, just saying that:
If you are single and unattached it is NOT cheating
If you are married or in a relationship it is CHEATING
