Modi scolds Trudeau over Sikh protests in Canada against India

[Frankfooter]

There is tons of proof. Some of which I posted on this thread. There is even more evidence of targeted killings and assassinations that Khalistani terrorists have indulged in. Watch Terry's documentary on this thread and you will see tons of evidence of violence in Canada by these extremists.

Hunka is European and from a part of the world with a history of antisemitism. Bose is from India which is the most pro-Israel country in the world. So Hunka joining the Nazis means something entirely different from Bose joining the Nazis. Hunka is a Nazi. Bose is a freedom fighter who was trying to free his country from colonialism using means he had at his disposal. Contexts and histories matter.

Therefore the next time you go to India be sure to salute Bose's statue. And the next time you see Trudeau tell him he is an idiot for allowing a Nazi in parliament.

Sure, and Putin provided so much proof that he was de Nazifying Ukraine.
Maybe he should be deNazifying India instead.

 

[DesRicardo]

He says - Canadian agencies have been pursuing "credible allegations of a potential link".

Credible allegations - So no charges.
potential link - so potentially no link.

Aka no proof that India did anything or broke international law.

That said, my opinion is that if India did do it, then its good riddance. If Canada wont prioritize Indian sovereignty I say, India should infact take matters into its own hands!

It's an investigation and it is within the ruling of international law.

This is not about proof it is about following law and procedure. Modi/India is in the wrong.

 

[DesRicardo]

There is no evidence of India breaking any international law. So case closed, India isn't in the wrong.

Yes there is. They are not complying to an open international investigation.

 

[pavel bure]

Racism

Indo Phobia

Isolated incidents do not automatically equate to being racist or Indophobia. All newsmedia do make such mistakes and work to rectify it.

 

[pavel bure]

The violence used to be much much more during Congress's rule. There is more law and order today. It is just the liberal western media that loves to shit on Modi because he is a right winger.

There is no discrimination of minorities. If you are referring to the citizenship amendment act, it does not apply to Indian citizens. It applies to citizens of other countries who want to become Indian citizens. Indian citizens are not discriminated by state law.

This is the discrimination that bver_hunter is probably referring to that was a trigger to demonstrations:

The violence erupted May 3 following a protest by tribal student organizations against the state’s High Court ordering the extension of statutory Scheduled Tribe (ST) status — which mandates free education and quotas in professional education like medicine and engineering and quota in government jobs — to members of the state’s majority Meiteis, most of whom are Hindus and who account for 53% of Manipur’s nearly 4 million people.

 

[basketcase]

Check the link I sent you.

The link doesn't have evidence, all it has are allegations. And more importantly, I'm still wondering why you are so adamant that knocking off Canadian citizens is okay.

Nice to see how easily otherwise progressive people are willing to swallow blind nationalism when it hit's their soft spots.

 

[basketcase]

Contexts and histories matter. Nazism and holocaust is European and Western history. India is a non-Western country. Bose wanted to fight the British to free India and defeat colonialism. So he is and is rightfully regarded a national hero.

I'm sure Ukrainians who fought for the Nazis say the same thing.

And yes, it's pretty moronic for you to shit on Canada for accidentally honouring a Waffen SS private while you and India celebrate a Waffen SS commander.

 

[basketcase]

It WAS an Indian internal issue and ...

Yep, that's exactly what Bose's buddies in Germany claimed.

 

[basketcase]

Canadian citizens do not have a right to ask for India's breakup much less act on it.

So now you are saying that Canadian citizens aren't allowed to share their opinions on international issues? I guess we can ask the mods to shut down the whole politics and international affairs part of the forum.

And sorry but that standard also means that if you are a Canadian citizen, you also have no right to talk about what's happening in India.

 

[basketcase]

It has details of the dossier provided by India to Canada,...

You demand Canada and the 5 eyes release all their evidence about the Indian assassins yet refuse to share with us any of the content of India's allegations. What a surprise.

 

[basketcase]

Nazism is western history and a western ideal. It is not an Indian ideal. India is a non-western country. Therefore, despite why Hunka joined the Waffen SS, he should not have been brought to the Canadian parliament which is a western country. Bose on the other hand, fought with the Nazis to free India from the British. Therefore he is a national hero.

Wow that's a dumb justification for your hero working directly with the Nazis. Ultra-nationalistic hatred from a totalitarian leadership is NOT just a western thing.

BTW. Ukrainian Waffen SS fought with Nazi Germany to free the Ukraine from the soviets. Is that any different?

 

[basketcase]

What are you talking about? Bose is from the 1930s and 40s who fought the British. My comment you are responding to is about the Khalistanis. Both have nothing to do with each other.

Sorry pal, you should really try to learn some history. Bose' buddies claimed that their slaughter of ethnic minorities was a purely internal matter. Bose' Nazi buddies butchered some 6 million people of other ethnicities that they wanted to use as scapegoats. You can see where Bose and his ultra-nationalists learned from during the slaughter and forced deportations in 1947.

 

[basketcase]

I dont have access to either. I dont work for either government. Between Canada and India, only India has released contents of the dossier that was provided to Canada, that proves Nijjar is a terrorist. So far what we have from Canada is hot air.

Yet you blindly believe Indian evidence you haven't seen while rejecting Canadian and 5 eye intelligence. Are you incapable of seeing the contradiction?

 

[basketcase]

Fighting a colonial oppressor is not ultra-nationalism....

No but Bose and his followers are/were.

The only difference between the Waffen SS private you're freaked out about and Waffen SS commander you idolize is their rank.

 

[bver_hunter]

The violence used to be much much more during Congress's rule. There is more law and order today. It is just the liberal western media that loves to shit on Modi because he is a right winger.

There is no discrimination of minorities. If you are referring to the citizenship amendment act, it does not apply to Indian citizens. It applies to citizens of other countries who want to become Indian citizens. Indian citizens are not discriminated by state law.

I posted about the discrimination in favour of just the Hindu majorities in Manipur as far as education and job opportunities. Not sure why you are bringing the citizen rule into the mix!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Bose and his followers were Indian, fighting the British. Anti-semitism is a western ideal. Not an Indian one. So Hunka as an European, coming form a part of the world that is known for anti-semitism, joining the Nazis has an entirely different meaning from Bose fighting the British as a guy wanting to free his country from colonial oppressors.

Bose fought alongside the Nazis against the French Resistance as well as the British forces. Hunka did exactly the same against the Soviet Union.
Cannot just pick and choose!!

 

[bver_hunter]

If you are referring to what is coming out of your mouth, then yes. I agree.

To someone who trusts the Modi Government over the Five Eyes Intelligence Agencies......... Hilarious!!

Western intelligence led to Canada accusing India of Sikh activist’s assassination, US Ambassador says

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/24/americas/canada-five-eyes-india-hardeep-singh-nijjar-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[bver_hunter]

There is no discrimination there. This was essentially a clash between two tribal peoples over affirmative action, caste status and land disputes.

Besides education and jobs in BJP States like Manipur, there has also been discrimination against Christians and Muslims nationally with these laws:

"Government actions, including the passage and enforcement of discriminatory policies such as hijab bans, anti-conversion laws, and anti-cow slaughter laws, have created a culture of impunity for threats and violence by vigilante groups, especially against Muslims and Christians," Rabbi Abraham Cooper, chairman of U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, said during recent congressional testimony.

Hindu Mobs Destroy 300 Churches as Indian Govt Fueling 'Serious Religious Persecution'

A fierce battle between Hindus and Christians is raging in a remote part of northeast India with some human rights experts blaming the country's government for fueling the religious violence.

cmsedit.cbn.com

 

[bver_hunter]

This tells me how ignorant you really are. You know nothing about what you are yammering on about. The Hindu tribe wanted ST status and was given ST status. That is not discrimination against someone. This is more about land rights, political representation, affirmative action etc.,

So you are okay for discrimination against the minority Christians. Explains it all with your real ignorance and hatred against the minority religions!!

 

[bver_hunter]

The same intelligence that led to inaction, which resulted in the Air India bombing. Yeah, right. The Five Eyes and their intel on this matter is useless. They should go back to tracking ISIS and other middle eastern groups and leave this one to India.

So you are like Trump who took the word of Putin over his own Intel Agencies.......LOL!!

Obviously, you love Modi and prefer him to the Canadian Government. He is not trustworthy and we should all be supporting our Government in this respect!!