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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

Frankfooter

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No, just worried about people like you pretending to support human rights while promoting elitist and racist views of others and endorsing violence against people because of their religion.


Speaking of elitism, just another case where you refuse to listen to what Palestinians say and refuse to condemn them when they say vile things. Abbas once again pushed claims that Jews caused the Holocaust and once again is inciting anti-Jewish hatred by claiming Jews are tunnelling under al Aqsa in an effort to destroy it.
I don't listen to Abbas, he's there as a useful fool for Israel. Most Palestinians don't listen either, I think his approval rate is in the teens.
Instead I listen to the Palestinian BDS movement.

Its not elitist, its anti racist and calls for basic human rights for Palestinians.
While you call for more violence against Palestinians and pretend to support peace.

 

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Penn Hillel vandalized day before ‘Palestine Writes’ literary festival
The event has been widely criticized by Jewish organizations for giving platforms at the University of Pennsylvania to antisemitic speakers.




Multiple people told the University of Pennsylvania student newspaper that the campus Hillel was vandalized on Thursday morning—the day before the start of a controversial “Palestine Writes” literary festival—as Orthodox students were praying inside the building.

“I noticed that the lobby was completely trashed—one of the podiums was smashed, one of the tables was smashed. There was stuff everywhere,” a Jewish student who was going to Shacharit services told The Daily Pennsylvanian.


A fellow student who was in the building to pray said the vandal came into the building and “immediately started smashing things, yelling ‘F**k the Jews’ and ‘They killed JC,’ ” the student paper reported. (The latter is apparently a reference to Jesus.)

A number of Jewish groups have denounced the literary festival that begins on Sept. 22.

“Penn’s inaction here speaks volumes,” said Liora Rez, CEO of StopAntisemitism, in a statement provided to JNS.


“Their position not only fosters an environment that’s conducive to increased antisemitism and bigotry but also highlights a troubling double standard,” she added. “If this conference was targeting any other marginalized group, it would likely be canceled.”

University president Liz Magill, who has been asked to move the event off campus, declined to intervene, reported Jewish Insider.

“The incident at Penn this morning is outrageous. The administration must swiftly condemn this antisemitism and do more to protect Jewish students. It is no surprise to see Jews attacked on campus the same week Penn is hosting a radical anti-Israel hate fest,” said Jacob Baime, CEO of Israel on Campus Coalition.

Penn Hillel vandalized day before ‘Palestine Writes’ literary festival - JNS.org
 

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I don't listen to Abbas, he's there as a useful fool for Israel. Most Palestinians don't listen either, I think his approval rate is in the teens.
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Right, you don't like any Palestinian who even mentions the possibility of peace with Israel. You also don't listen to groups like Hamas or PIJ when they freely admit they are targeting Jewish civilians as part of their goal to eliminate their presence.
 

Frankfooter

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Right, you don't like any Palestinian who even mentions the possibility of peace with Israel. You also don't listen to groups like Hamas or PIJ when they freely admit they are targeting Jewish civilians as part of their goal to eliminate their presence.
Peace?

Are you saying there is a war there?
Or are you admitting that its an illegal occupation you don't support ending?

Its past time for that, its time to talk about ending apartheid in the existing one state solution.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, plenty of people condemn Netanyahu including most of us here. Unlike you, most of them aren't using him as a foil in their quest for Israel's elimination.
Ending apartheid isn't going to eliminate Israel.
Do you really think your Israel can't exist without oppressing the native population and refusing to give them basic human rights?
 

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Peace?

Are you saying there is a war there?
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Yes. The Arab League declared war on Israel to try and prevent Partition. Since then, all Arab states (except Jordan and Egypt) have still officially been at war. And yes, Hamas is part of that war.

But look at you like usual trying to avoid the fact that Hamas and other terrorist groups openly admit they are targeting civilians.
 

basketcase

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So that makes it ok that Israel has already done it and taken over all of Palestine?
More of your idiotic double standard. You condemn Netanyahu because he shows a map that doesn't have a Palestinian state demarcated on it yet happily accept that many prominent Palestinian organizations do the same thing in their official logo and communications.

But yes, we all know you believe it's bad when Jews do it but okay when Arabs do because you don't see Arabs as capable of culpability.
 

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Ending apartheid isn't going to eliminate Israel.
Do you really think your Israel can't exist without oppressing the native population and refusing to give them basic human rights?
Yet that's exactly what you promote. if you were okay with Israel/Jewish presence existing, you wouldn't be claiming there's a 70 year occupation.
 

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Yes. The Arab League declared war on Israel to try and prevent Partition. Since then, all Arab states (except Jordan and Egypt) have still officially been at war. And yes, Hamas is part of that war.

But look at you like usual trying to avoid the fact that Hamas and other terrorist groups openly admit they are targeting civilians.
So you're saying Israel is the least peaceful country in the world with a 75 year old, racist colonial war?
 

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More of your idiotic double standard. You condemn Netanyahu because he shows a map that doesn't have a Palestinian state demarcated on it yet happily accept that many prominent Palestinian organizations do the same thing in their official logo and communications.

But yes, we all know you believe it's bad when Jews do it but okay when Arabs do because you don't see Arabs as capable of culpability.
But its ok for you when zionist Jews claim all of Palestine?

So that must make these people be evil racist Jews in your mind?
 

Frankfooter

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Yet that's exactly what you promote. if you were okay with Israel/Jewish presence existing, you wouldn't be claiming there's a 70 year occupation.
Now you say there is a war but no occupation.
Which means you admit now that there is no Palestine and has been no Palestine for 70 years?
Just a war with the native population?

That sure sounds like you admit the one state apartheid solution is here and you're proud of it.

You really are just like this guy.
 

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Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish.
Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable. No more.

 

basketcase

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So you're saying Israel is the least peaceful country in the world with a 75 year old, racist colonial war?
I know you have no interest in anything that doesn't fit your demonization campaign but reality had the Arabs states declaring war because they didn't want a Jewish population there and it was the Arab league who's official policy was to never make peace with Israel. Thankfully Jordan and Egypt were able to see past that.
 

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But its ok for you when zionist Jews claim all of Palestine?
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I have never supported that and will condemn the idiotic Greater Israel crew just like I condemn the River to the Sea calls from Palestinian supporters.

You on the other hand happily support Palestinian claims to owning all of Mandate Palestine, making it 100% clear that you have absolutely no interest in applying a consistent set of standards.
 

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Now you say there is a war but no occupation.
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Wow your posts are dumb. I guess that's what you have to do when your arguments are simply a racist double standard. In your racist mind, all of Israel is really Palestinian land and Jews have no right to be there. For the rest of us, the Green line separates Israel from occupied territories.


p.s. Many Israeli Jews are in their native land. Half of the population is descended from Arab Jews, either from the immediate area or chased from their homes over antisemitism .
 
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