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"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll

Klatuu

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At least Netanyahu can legitimately say that the map is the current area of Israeli control, not a plan for the future.
Congratulations. You finally conceded. The current area of Israeli control includes the entire occupied territories. No fiction of Palestinian control. Israeli control = Israeli apartheid.
 
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Congratulations. You finally conceded. The current area of Israeli control includes the entire occupied territories. No fiction of Palestinian control. Israeli control = Israeli apartheid.
Let me ask you. I have no illusion of convincing you of anything and I have no interest in trying. You can save your breath in term of convincing me.

Now that aside what us it you hope to achieve? There will NEVER be a one state solution and Israel will be around and thriving long after you and I are gone. So what do you hope to achieve.
 

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Yes, your use of anti-semitic tropes is one of the many aspects of antisemitism you have displayed. Thankfully I live in a country that condemns your hateful world view, your promotion of violence, and your vile racism.
I live in a country where 60% think the Israel you defend is apartheid.
You do your angry Botha thing if you like, I'm sure it'll play well.
 
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Let me ask you. I have no illusion of convincing you of anything and I have no interest in trying. You can save your breath in term of convincing me.

Now that aside what us it you hope to achieve? There will NEVER be a one state solution and Israel will be around and thriving long after you and I are gone. So what do you hope to achieve.
Its happening already.
60% of Canadians say Israel is apartheid.
No political party can ignore that for long.

Boycotts are coming.

And Netanyahu said the one state solution is already here today at the UN.
The apartheid one state solution
 
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Just expect to be treated like a racist, apartheid loving troll.
As long as it's by people like you, I know I'm on the right side of history and have nothing to be ashamed of.
 

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Is the land mass of Gaza about the same size as Singapore? Gaza also has a coastline facing a warm weather sea.
 

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Congratulations. You finally conceded. The current area of Israeli control includes the entire occupied territories. No fiction of Palestinian control. Israeli control = Israeli apartheid.
Yes, Israel has overall control the West Bank as per their peace treaty with Jordan.

The PA has control over their area except for security measures. Gaza is fully controlled by Hamas.

The biggest fraud with your claims is the fact that Palestinians overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli and hate the concept of equal rights, no matter how much you want them forced into it as a strategy to eliminate Israel.



And I see you have absolutely zero problem with Palestinian maps describing all of the former Mandate as Palestine. Thanks for keeping up that racist double standard.

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Fatah and Hamas' and the PA logos.
 
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Klatuu

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That’s the problem with conceding in print. You can’t walk it back, grandpa. No matter how hard you try.

At least Netanyahu can legitimately say that the map is the current area of Israeli control, not a plan for the future.

Yes, Israel has overall control the West Bank as per their peace treaty with Jordan.

The PA has control over their area except for security measures. Gaza is fully controlled by Hamas.

The biggest fraud with your claims is the fact that Palestinians overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli and hate the concept of equal rights, no matter how much you want them forced into it as a strategy to eliminate Israel.



And I see you have absolutely zero problem with Palestinian maps describing all of the former Mandate as Palestine. Thanks for keeping up that racist double standard.

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Fatah and Hamas' and the PA logos.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, Israel has overall control the West Bank as per their peace treaty with Jordan.

The PA has control over their area except for security measures. Gaza is fully controlled by Hamas.

The biggest fraud with your claims is the fact that Palestinians overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli and hate the concept of equal rights, no matter how much you want them forced into it as a strategy to eliminate Israel.



And I see you have absolutely zero problem with Palestinian maps describing all of the former Mandate as Palestine. Thanks for keeping up that racist double standard.

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Fatah and Hamas' and the PA logos.
So you admit that there is no Palestine, that Israel is already controlling all of Palestine and has enacted the one state, apartheid solution as shown by Netanyahu at his dismal UN speech.
Yet you still blame Palestinians and are still against giving the native population full human rights and equality.
 
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That’s the problem with conceding in print. You can’t walk it back, grandpa. No matter how hard you try.
So does that mean you're okay with many Palestinian organizations have logos claiming all of the Mandate?

Racist double standard once again.
 

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So you admit that there is no Palestine, that Israel is already controlling all of Palestine and has enacted the one state, apartheid solution as shown by Netanyahu at his dismal UN speech.
Yet you still blame Palestinians and are still against giving the native population full human rights and equality.
It's almost like you're starting to pay attention to reality then go running off your cliff again.

I know you don't care at all about Palestinians, their thoughts, their opinions, or their ability to make choices but peace can not be achieved by forcing something on Palestinians they hate, especially when some well armed groups hate it. The only way forward is to pressure both sides to negotiate a peace deal.

But that would mean Jews would still live in the region so you'll never get behind the concept.
 

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By supporting t...
By your racist double standard, your rejection of self determination for Jews living there, your tropes about Jews and Israel controlling US/Canadian policy, your insistence on blaming non-Israeli Jews for your hatreds, for your justification for murdering Jewish civilians, for your silence on Abbas once again promoting Holocaust denial, accusing American and Canadian Jews of actually working at Israel's behest. Did I forget any?
 

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It's almost like you're starting to pay attention to reality then go running off your cliff again.

I know you don't care at all about Palestinians, their thoughts, their opinions, or their ability to make choices but peace can not be achieved by forcing something on Palestinians they hate, especially when some well armed groups hate it. The only way forward is to pressure both sides to negotiate a peace deal.

But that would mean Jews would still live in the region so you'll never get behind the concept.
Its almost like you seem smart and then you go miss the basics of a concept and sound all MAGA like.
The two state solution means both Jews and Palestinians would live together with equal rights in the same region, so you will never get behind the concept.

 

Frankfooter

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By your racist double standard, your rejection of self determination for Jews living there, your tropes about Jews and Israel controlling US/Canadian policy, your insistence on blaming non-Israeli Jews for your hatreds, for your justification for murdering Jewish civilians, for your silence on Abbas once again promoting Holocaust denial, accusing American and Canadian Jews of actually working at Israel's behest. Did I forget any?
You forgot to accuse me of hating kittens.

Apartheid is THE racist double standard.
Israel kills 10x the number of civilians while continuing in their 19th century colonial mandate to steal Palestinian land and homes.

Your racism is so extreme you refuse to even admit Palestinians are human and deserve the same basic human rights as everyone in Canada.
Were you to make the same arguments about any group living in Canada you'd be a laughing stock.

If you were out speaking about Palestinians publicly with this much hatred and vitriol you'd be as popular as this guy.
 
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