"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll

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Lmao! What weapons? Home made rockets and rocks? Pathetic, you're actually attempting to argue that Hamas is a real threat to Israel LOL! You're so disingenuous and ignorant it's disgusting. Get educated dude.
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Hmm. Yet neither the PA nor Israel have been able to disarm them. But in your western elitism, you pretend that Hamas, PIJ, and the rest will choose to become peaceful when they are forced into a peace that forces them to live alongside Jews despite their rabid misinterpretation of Islam.

p.s. It's quite humorous when someone educated solely on twitter tells someone else to get educated.
 

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There was actually a map, he's correct about that. Abbas confirmed that Olmert showed him a map but did not allow him to take a copy of that map so he had to scribble his own copy on a napkin.

This is almost certainly because Olmert was not making a serious offer so he didn't want to commit to it publicly. The offer Olmert did make wasn't even a good one.
Yet Abbas chose never to test the seriousness of the offer. The reality is Israel made an offer in 2008 and had accepted numerous international peace plans since 1937. The Arab and latter Palestinian leadership have rejected every offer and peace plan they were presented with and have never made a comprehensive peace offer. The closest I've seen in Hamas saying they'd agree to a 10 year truce if Israel withdrew to the '67 lines and allowed the refugees and their descendants into Israel.
 
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Your posts are really as nonsensical as Frankies. It's humorous that you post op-eds saying one thing while the actual polls say another, unless you think 21% is somehow bigger than 28%. Palestinians HATE the one state peace you think they should be forced into even more than the idea of Two States.
Palestinians say the two state solution is dead and don't trust the Israeli government to build a one state.
Congrats, this is just as you want.

You prefer there to be no peace plan so you can call Palestinians 'violent' and justify targeting civilians, taking their homes and occupying them through apartheid.

Unfortunately all you've done is create the apartheid one state.
Now its up to BDS, which 86% of Palestinians support, to bring about the end of apartheid.

Support equal rights.
Support giving the vote to all who live under Israeli rule.
Support peace, not apartheid.

 
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LOL! You are literally too unintelligent to read and interpret stats. Firstly, it's 26% (not 21%) ...
Hmmm.

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I guess PCPSR is lying then.


Secondly, those questions were asked in isolation. When asked which they'd choose between one-state and two-state if those are the ONLY options, less than 40% pick two-state.
So the Palestinians need you to tell them how to do a survey too?



And I notice you still don't want to acknowledge that Palestinians opposing peace deals alongside Jews is a serious complication to making a peace deal.
 

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More lies
Ah, the tactics of a conspiracy theorist, claim everyone else is lying.

Which of these is lies?
- Did Abbas respond in any way to Olmert's offer?
- Did the Palestinians accept the Clinton Parameters?
- Did the Palestinians accept the Camp David Accords?
- Did the Palestinians accept Partition?
- Did the Palestinians accept the Peel Commission?
- Can you show a single offer for peace the Palestinian leadership made?

Of course you know reality isn't on your side so you just accuse me of lying.
 

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Palestinians say the two state solution is dead and don't trust the Israeli government to build a one state.
Congrats, this is just as you want.

You prefer there to be no peace plan so you can call Palestinians 'violent' and justify targeting civilians, taking their homes and occupying them through apartheid.

Unfortunately all you've done is create the apartheid one state.
Now its up to BDS, which 86% of Palestinians support, to bring about the end of apartheid.

Support equal rights.
Support giving the vote to all who live under Israeli rule.
Support peace, not apartheid.

Holy shit your idiocy is getting extreme and one again you feel the need to pretend I have any influence.

You admit Palestinians don't want a One State peace yet you still demand they be forced into it. Maybe the fact that most Palestinians oppose peace is something that needs to change. Instead you just blame Israel and ignore what palestinians want.

At least the EU understands that peace can't be made without Palestinian agreement.
 

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In reality, the western world is distancing themselves from your racist, apartheid state.
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Some activist types may be but the vast majority have things more concerning to them than forcing Palestinians into something they hate.
 

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Nah, you're just dumb and don't know how to read your own sources. Like I said, you simply aren't intelligent enough to even understand statistics.

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The only real complication is that Israel has never offered a good peace deal.
Thanks for proving why it's important to read the raw data instead of relying on second hand analysis.
 

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Holy shit your idiocy is getting extreme and one again you feel the need to pretend I have any influence.

You admit Palestinians don't want a One State peace yet you still demand they be forced into it. Maybe the fact that most Palestinians oppose peace is something that needs to change. Instead you just blame Israel and ignore what palestinians want.

At least the EU understands that peace can't be made without Palestinian agreement.
That's not going over very well with Netanyahu's pal, MBS.
 
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Some activist types may be but the vast majority have things more concerning to them than forcing Palestinians into something they hate.
This is page 23 of a thread about a poll showing that the majority of Canadians think Israel is apartheid.
How out of touch are you?

Ok, we know.

Most Israelis do not support a two-state solution, new poll shows
According to the results, 58 percent of Jewish Israelis opposed such a move, with another 11 percent undecided
 
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