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This is bullshit! Sudbury man refused kidney transplant due to vaccination status dies

boobtoucher

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On one hand, yeah. On the other hand, you don't get a liver if you're still drinking. Organ transplants are inherently not "fair", they go to the patients who will get the most benefit from them. They are a rare commodity, with a wait list. You don't have a "right" to a donation, so you play by the hospital's rules.

"I need an organ, but you can't shave my chest before surgery" - no transplant
"I need an organ, but I don't want to be sedated for surgery" - no transplant
"I need an organ, but the surgeon has to be a white male over 6' tall" - no transplant.

Faced with death, this man looked his family in the eye and said "I'm not willing to do what it takes to keep living". He died for his principals, because he was misinformed about the risks he was facing. Much more an indictment of our culture than our medical system.
 

squeezer

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I'm sorry, I do not feel sorry for him one bit. He was given a choice, an easy choice actually, get the vaccine and transplant and live, do not get the vax nor kidney and die, he made his choice, a stupid one but his choice.
 

silentkisser

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Oh boy, here comes the intolerant Left to support the hypocrisy of "My body my choice"
Yeah, it was his body and his choice. Do you not see that? He made a choice. A poor one, but he did make it. Nobody forced him to have the vaccine. As @boobtoucher pointed out, there are rules to get a transplant. If you don't follow them, you don't get the organ. So, it is sad that he died, but it is entirely his fault.
 

dvous11

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Yeah, it was his body and his choice. Do you not see that? He made a choice. A poor one, but he did make it. Nobody forced him to have the vaccine. As @boobtoucher pointed out, there are rules to get a transplant. If you don't follow them, you don't get the organ. So, it is sad that he died, but it is entirely his fault.
The tyrannical "rule" of needing a useless C19 jab in order to receive a life saving surgery is pure corrupt government lunacy.
The jabs do not prevent transmission, or prevent infection.
This is widely proven.
This is merely obey your corrupt government rulers, even though you've paid taxes into the healthcare system your entire life.
 

basketcase

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Oh boy, here comes the intolerant Left to support the hypocrisy of "My body my choice"
Hospital's kidney, hospital's choice.

Also worth noting that this is only from the perspective of admitted ant-vax activist but still admit “a botched surgery that landed him with a staph infection. After that, he was never the same. His health quickly deteriorated and he became septic, which in turn caused a serious heart problem, a collapsed lung, and temporary paralysis. He was told he was no longer a transplant candidate due to his poor health.”

Sure makes it seem that vaccine had absolutely nothing to do with his denial. I'm sure it's a good way to promote the gofundme though.
 
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dvous11

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Dude it is not corrupt. Hospitals have procedures and certain ways of doing things. If you don't trust your doctor on their recommendation on a COVID vaccine, why would you trust them on the transplant?
Two different things entirely brah.
 

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Dude it is not corrupt. Hospitals have procedures and certain ways of doing things. If you don't trust your doctor on their recommendation on a COVID vaccine, why would you trust them on the transplant?
the covid vaccines do not prevent transmission.
 

boobtoucher

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the covid vaccines do not prevent transmission.
The covid vaccine does not prevent transmission in the same way my prayers to Jesus are not keeping tigers out of the arctic.

An infected person will transmit the virus. Cough, cold, flu, HIV, doesn't matter.

What a vaccine does is lower your chance (not to zero) of contracting the disease when exposed.

Fewer (new) infections per (existing) infection MEANS fewer total infections, and eventual end of pandemic. This is wearing a condom so your wife doesn't get aids.

The vaccine also reduces the severity of an infection (again, not to zero). This is taking antiretrovirals to reduce the effects of aids.

Dear lord, this isnt even epidemiology. It's 10th grade logic.

People who get the flu shot still get the flu, but fewer people get the flu because people get the flu shot.
 
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Meesh

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The covid vaccine does not prevent transmission in the same way my prayers to Jesus are not keeping tigers out of the arctic.

An infected person will transmit the virus. Couch, cold, flu, HIV, doesn't matter.

What a vaccine does is lower your chance (not to zero) of contracting the disease when exposed.

Fewer (new) infections per (existing) infection MEANS fewer total infections, and eventual end of pandemic. This is wearing a condom so your wife doesn't get aids.

The vaccine also reduces the severity of an infection (again, not to zero). This is taking antiretrovirals to reduce the effects of aids.

Dear lord, this isnt even epidemiology. It's 10th grade logic.

People who get the flu shot still get the flu, but fewer people get the flu because people get the flu shot.
Thank you. Nice to see someone gets it.
 
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Jenesis

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The covid vaccine does not prevent transmission in the same way my prayers to Jesus are not keeping tigers out of the arctic.

An infected person will transmit the virus. Couch, cold, flu, HIV, doesn't matter.

What a vaccine does is lower your chance (not to zero) of contracting the disease when exposed.

Fewer (new) infections per (existing) infection MEANS fewer total infections, and eventual end of pandemic. This is wearing a condom so your wife doesn't get aids.

The vaccine also reduces the severity of an infection (again, not to zero). This is taking antiretrovirals to reduce the effects of aids.

Dear lord, this isnt even epidemiology. It's 10th grade logic.

People who get the flu shot still get the flu, but fewer people get the flu because people get the flu shot.
This is exactly true. And you don’t need a flu shot to get a transplant so why the need for a COVID shot. It is a shot, not a “vaccine”.

Im not asking you directly of course. I’m boostered out the ass for COVID because I believe in the shot but I personally can’t get behind this type off treatment of a person for simply refusing what is now basically a different type of flu shot.
 

boobtoucher

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This is exactly true. And you don’t need a flu shot to get a transplant so why the need for a COVID shot. It is a shot, not a “vaccine”.

Im not asking you directly of course. I’m boostered out the ass for COVID because I believe in the shot but I personally can’t get behind this type off treatment of a person for simply refusing what is now basically a different type of flu shot.
Turns out you DO need a flu shot to get a transplant:


I'm curious why you think the COVID vaccine is different that any other vaccine?
 
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