Pickering Angels

America does not want Biden to run again.

johnd5050

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I can think of three other senators who should retire and move on to green pastures.
Have to agree with Niki Haley "The senate has become a nursing home for the privileged"
I don't like the Orange Man, yet he can shoot the bull for an hour or more without going blank or stopping for air.
 
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Valcazar

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You need new material.
Not really.
This is a legitimate concern.

People are worried about his age (they were before his first term as well) and the overall age of the leadership in general is also a concern.
 

Butler1000

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Yeah but that is not Butler's actual concern because he wouldn't say that about Trump.
The poll was about both of them. But Biden is worse off. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump that have been clearly laid out.
 
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onthebottom

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Biden is clearly not all there, I’m convinced he’s just doing what someone on his staff tells him to do.
 

Anbarandy

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The poll was about both of them. But Biden is worse off. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump that have been clearly laid out.
"But, I''ll fixate on and obsess over the presumed democrat candidate instead of the presumed Reptilian felon because I'm so progressive that my brain hurts."
 
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y2kmark

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Not a fan of either Biden or Trump.
Both are idiots.
Biden might drop out, but not so soon. He would be a lame duck president for over a year. Trump is the very presumptive Republican. The Dems only need somebody (anybody) who isn't Cheeto Mussolini. I've said before I'd vote for a magic eight ball over Trump...
 
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bver_hunter

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The poll was about both of them. But Biden is worse off. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump that have been clearly laid out.

This matters more if the elections were held today:

Fifty-two percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Biden, versus 62% who have a negative opinion of Trump.

And a combined 54% say they definitely or probably won’t support Biden if he’s the Democratic nominee, while 63% say the same of Trump if he’s the GOP nominee.

On the contrary Trump is worse off!!
 
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Frankfooter

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Biden was worse off for the age issue.

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As you can see, that appears to be largely driven by partisanship - The Republicans are more tribal on these sorts of questions.

Of course, as you say, Trump has other problems with voters.

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(The AP*NORC site: https://apnorc.org/projects/bidens-age-is-a-significant-concern-for-voters/)
Not surprising considering that the right wing media is using this and Hunter as their only two attacks on Biden.
They can't talk policy, ethics, economics, jobs or anything else.
So you play the hand you're dealt.
 

Butler1000

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Not surprising considering that the right wing media is using this and Hunter as their only two attacks on Biden.
They can't talk policy, ethics, economics, jobs or anything else.
So you play the hand you're dealt.
Careful. If the economy tanks Biden takes the hit too. And November 2024 is 14 months away.
 

Not getting younger

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“Claim” Franky?

Have you ever listened to them speak? JT especially? Even more so when he doesn’t have talking points to regurgitate, deflect and evade and has to go off script?

One could also point out that building a house out of twigs, rather than bricks is also getting stuff done.
 

toguy5252

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Joe is doing a great job. Actually it is precisely because he is doing too good a job that the deplorables have to keep floating impeachment to help Der fuerer.
 

Frankfooter

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“Claim” Franky?

Have you ever listened to them speak? JT especially? Even more so when he doesn’t have talking points to regurgitate, deflect and evade and has to go off script?

One could also point out that building a house out of twigs, rather than bricks is also getting stuff done.
Yes, I've listened to both of them speak and compared that to the incoherent ramblings of right wingers.
This is an excellent example of JT in dialogue with someone who questioned his policies about Muslim families and LGBTQ rights. Its articulate, clear and direct.
I agree JT still does speeches like a high school teacher but its also clear that he's not just regurgitating talking points.

 
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