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China’s full collapse has begun

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With a demographic collapse (half as many 5yr olds as 10) and birth rates in free fall, a housing market (30% of GDP) that is going bankrupt, and massive debt, there is no one to right the sinking Chinese ship. Xi is a Mao style cult of personality dictator that has disappeared all rivals and dissolved the professional government class to do his will. Traditional US allies (S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan) are being joined by non-allied regional nations like India in looking to contain and weaken China’s influece domestically and internationall.
 

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I hesitate to agree.

The PRC produces more STEM grads than the U.S.

The PRC has 20 universities that are equivalent to MIT.
 

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I hesitate to agree.

The PRC produces more STEM grads than the U.S.

The PRC has 20 universities that are equivalent to MIT.
I’d call BS on that last stat, and China has a 20%+ youth unemployment rate, specifically among the well educated graduates.
 
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With a demographic collapse (half as many 5yr olds as 10) and birth rates in free fall, a housing market (30% of GDP) that is going bankrupt, and massive debt, there is no one to right the sinking Chinese ship. Xi is a Mao style cult of personality dictator that has disappeared all rivals and dissolved the professional government class to do his will. Traditional US allies (S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan) are being joined by non-allied regional nations like India in looking to contain and weaken China’s influece domestically and internationall.
You are right about the declining birth rates which if they continue may cause China to go the way of Japan. However unlike Japan, China is building up massive infrastructure in Asia, Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe and Africa.as America contracts.
The international Chinese market expansion may offset their domestic malaise and the CCP would be quite content to see a further reduction in the Chinese population .
 
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You are right about the declining birth rates which if they continue may cause China to go the way of Japan. However unlike Japan, China is building up massive infrastructure in Asia, Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe and Africa.as America contracts.
The international Chinese market expansion may offset their domestic malaise and the CCP would be quite content to see a further reduction in the Chinese population .
Also, the road and belt.

Plus investments in Africa without the white man's historical colonial baggage.
 

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Plus investments in Africa without the white man's historical colonial baggage.
From White Man's Burden to historical colonial baggage. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!...
 

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From White Man's Burden to historical colonial baggage. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!...
The Chinese bring their own luggage that they must of won on the Price is Right. That whole scheme of them is very questionable. Not Congo Free State level but still suspect.
 

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Also, the road and belt.

Plus investments in Africa without the white man's historical colonial baggage.
The brave new independent anti-colonial "national leaders" are perfectly happy to cut deals with whatever Former Colonial Oppressors are willing to pay big enough bribes into the appropriate Swiss bank account.
 

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I have to pause on America's Second Amendment when I see PRC soldiers and security personnel brutally stomping the heads on unarmed Chinese citizens who want to air their grievances publicly. The only reason the Communist Regime continues to exist is the largesse it doles out to its armed forces. A pampered armed force would fare badly against Taiwanese Special Forces and the Communist Government would fall.

Italy's Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi has called The Belt and Road Initiative a stronzato that benefits only China. Prime Minister Meloni agrees with him but still tries to be diplomatic. After all Big Top Xi did offer her a lap dance.

Piantedosi is a straight shooter who has no time for polemics. Before becoming Interior Minister he was an anti-mafia magistrate.


He does have a Herbert Lom (The Pink Panther, The Dead Zone) look about him.
 
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With a demographic collapse (half as many 5yr olds as 10) and birth rates in free fall, a housing market (30% of GDP) that is going bankrupt, and massive debt, there is no one to right the sinking Chinese ship. Xi is a Mao style cult of personality dictator that has disappeared all rivals and dissolved the professional government class to do his will. Traditional US allies (S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan) are being joined by non-allied regional nations like India in looking to contain and weaken China’s influece domestically and internationall.
Basically the same thing is happening in Canada but I don't hear you scream the end is near.

They will experience difficulties but will be fine.
 

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Basically the same thing is happening in Canada but I don't hear you scream the end is near.

They will experience difficulties but will be fine.
There are differences. In the banking system and how mortgages work. In labour laws. In immigration laws. Cultural differences. In raw materials, food chain, energy production. In the possibility of social unrest.
 

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You are right about the declining birth rates which if they continue may cause China to go the way of Japan. However unlike Japan, China is building up massive infrastructure in Asia, Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe and Africa.as America contracts.
The international Chinese market expansion may offset their domestic malaise and the CCP would be quite content to see a further reduction in the Chinese population .
The world is turning away from China, they’ve proven a predatory trading partner, they also have not climed the value chain. Italy just departed the Belt and Road project. Japan has threaded the demographic needle by moving manufacturing to consuming countries and keeping the highest value activities domestic. China doesn’t have the skills to pull this off.
 

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Rumors of its demise are premature.
Birth rates below 1 child per female in urban areas, half as many 5yr olds as 10. They import 80% of their energy and are the worlds largest food importer. China has taken the second step in the five finger death punch.
 

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I have to pause on America's Second Amendment when I see PRC soldiers and security personnel brutally stomping the heads on unarmed Chinese citizens who want to air their grievances publicly. The only reason the Communist Regime continues to exist is the largesse it doles out to its armed forces. A pampered armed force would fare badly against Taiwanese Special Forces and the Communist Government would fall.

Italy's Interior Minister Matteo Piantedosi has called The Belt and Road Initiative a stronzato that benefits only China. Prime Minister Meloni agrees with him but still tries to be diplomatic. After all Big Top Xi did offer her a lap dance.

Piantedosi is a straight shooter who has no time for polemics. Before becoming Interior Minister he was an anti-mafia magistrate.


He does have a Herbert Lom (The Pink Panther, The Dead Zone) look about him.
The CCP keeps power by fulfilling a grand bargain of delievering citizen economic sucess for taking control of many aspects of peoples lives. They are about to default on the first part of the grand bargain.
 
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