My ATF’s blocked me after years of not seeing them

[Mr.lover]

um.... they dont monitor your usage that closely... um.. if you're making long distance phone calls to australia or russia, yeah sure. they notice that. but not local calls. the main thing they monitor on the work phone at my work is your location as they can actually look up where you're at by the gps on the phone...to see if you're actually on the work site on company time.

um. if a girlfriend or someone called me on the work phone. it wouldn't really show up as they dont monitor so closely as to every single phone call. so ya you could get away with phone calls on the work phone easily. just say its a scammer or solicitator or someone you dont know..do they listen in on your phone calls? i highly doubt it. this isn't communist russia and the kgb. but you never know.

well at my workplace. just because they say they can do it. doesn't mean they do do it. they simply dont have the time or manpower to check in on your every phone call and check in on your location every hour to every half hour. you know? they have other things to do. like work.

They can actually, I had an old colleague who would call/text the agency from his work phone and not sure how or why but that agency number was tracked. He was in sales and was terminated. I am just saying it is possible so why risk it? One other guy browsed agency sites on his work phone, he got reprimanded but didn't lose his job.
Why risk losing your job over pussy.. just saying.

 

[explorerzip]

Well I said that I felt sad for my ATFs blocking me because I loved them as people.

Since you love them as people, would you:

1. help look after their young kids, pets or elderly family members?
2. take them to the doctor for routime medical exams?
3. feed and bathe them if they're unable to do it themselves?
4. visit them in the nursing home?
5. plan for or attend the funeral?
6. execute their will?

These things and many more are the real signs of love IMO and many family members have trouble with them. Further, if you love these women so much then why aren't they returning those feelings? I'm not saying that real realtionships should be tit-for-tat, but the fact that these girls are blcoking you is a big sign.

 

[JohnnyWishbone]

Since you love them as people, would you:

1. help look after their young kids, pets or elderly family members?
2. take them to the doctor for routime medical exams?
3. feed and bathe them if they're unable to do it themselves?
4. visit them in the nursing home?
5. plan for or attend the funeral?
6. execute their will?

These things and many more are the real signs of love IMO and many family members have trouble with them. Further, if you love these women so much then why aren't they returning those feelings? I'm not saying that real realtionships should be tit-for-tat, but the fact that these girls are blcoking you is a big sign.

+ If/when they lose their looks, put on weight to become 400 lbs and hook up with another guy/has his kids you still love them ? In any case the 'love' is clearly not reciprocated

 

[Terminator2000]

They can actually, I had an old colleague who would call/text the agency from his work phone and not sure how or why but that agency number was tracked. He was in sales and was terminated. I am just saying it is possible so why risk it? One other guy browsed agency sites on his work phone, he got reprimanded but didn't lose his job.
Why risk losing your job over pussy.. just saying.

um. ya if you do it on a regular basis. sure they're going to catch on. but if a girl sp calls once or spams the phone at one incident. you have plausible deniability. say you dont know the person or its a solicitator or she tried to sell you something or advertise something. or its a scammer trying to get money from you. etc etc etc.

but ya if its a regular basis. they're going to catch on and start monitoring you. if you do it all the time. its like when youre butting heads and fighting with people at work on a regular basis and you're in the office explaining yourself to management about your work behaviour. every week. management is going to monitor you.

 

[black booty lover]

Since you love them as people, would you:

1. help look after their young kids, pets or elderly family members?
2. take them to the doctor for routime medical exams?
3. feed and bathe them if they're unable to do it themselves?
4. visit them in the nursing home?
5. plan for or attend the funeral?
6. execute their will?

These things and many more are the real signs of love IMO and many family members have trouble with them. Further, if you love these women so much then why aren't they returning those feelings? I'm not saying that real realtionships should be tit-for-tat, but the fact that these girls are blcoking you is a big sign.

You took this totally out of context. I think he was simply trying to say he wouldn't minded continuing some kind of friendship with them despite the fact they are seemingly quitting the bizz or whatever reason they no longer wish to see him as a client. I'm not suggesting that's practical either, but just wanting to maintain a friendship with someone or saying you care about someone doesn't mean you need to be willing to write out their will for god sake.

 

[explorerzip]

You took this totally out of context. I think he was simply trying to say he wouldn't minded continuing some kind of friendship with them despite the fact they are seemingly quitting the bizz or whatever reason they no longer wish to see him as a client. I'm not suggesting that's practical either, but just wanting to maintain a friendship with someone or saying you care about someone doesn't mean you need to be willing to write out their will for god sake.

I'm just taking him on his own words. If he really "loves" other people, then there's a lot of responsibilities that should come with it IMO. Not so easy to "love" another person when they're in any of the situations I listed.

 

[superman12]

#1 rule in this hobby is to never develop romantic feelings for an sp and dont have expectations of friendship. Any gent who does is just asking for trouble. No matter how good the sex is or what she says to make you feel a certain a way just remember that this is a business. That's all. Your paying an sp to provide you a service. The really good ones will make you feel like a king and that they genuinely care for your company and friendship in order to keep you coming back. Don't ever mistake that for thinking that they actually care to have any sort of relationship with you outside of this industry. Just enjoy this hobby for what it is. I mean what's better then spending some time with a beautiful women who will suck your dick and let you fuck her pussy and then let you just move on with your day.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

#1 rule in this hobby is to never develop romantic feelings for an sp and dont have expectations of friendship. Any gent who does is just asking for trouble. No matter how good the sex is or what she says to make you feel a certain a way just remember that this is a business. That's all. Your paying an sp to provide you a service. The really good ones will make you feel like a king and that they genuinely care for your company and friendship in order to keep you coming back. Don't ever mistake that for thinking that they actually care to have any sort of relationship with you outside of this industry. Just enjoy this hobby for what it is. I mean what's better then spending some time with a beautiful women who will suck your dick and let you fuck her pussy and then let you just move on with your day.

I thought number 1 rule was use a burner. But there again, what do I know?

 

[Mr.lover]

um. ya if you do it on a regular basis. sure they're going to catch on. but if a girl sp calls once or spams the phone at one incident. you have plausible deniability. say you dont know the person or its a solicitator or she tried to sell you something or advertise something. or its a scammer trying to get money from you. etc etc etc.

but ya if its a regular basis. they're going to catch on and start monitoring you. if you do it all the time. its like when youre butting heads and fighting with people at work on a regular basis and you're in the office explaining yourself to management about your work behaviour. every week. management is going to monitor you.

Um..um.. ya.. it um could happen.. ya but um only if it's regular? um ya.. sure.. like whatever.. um have to go now..
WTF

 

[Tashki]

Since you love them as people, would you:

1. help look after their young kids, pets or elderly family members?
2. take them to the doctor for routime medical exams?
3. feed and bathe them if they're unable to do it themselves?
4. visit them in the nursing home?
5. plan for or attend the funeral?
6. execute their will?

I have actually done number 5 before except it was the visitation service. I would say no to the rest.

I'm just taking him on his own words. If he really "loves" other people, then there's a lot of responsibilities that should come with it IMO. Not so easy to "love" another person when they're in any of the situations I listed.

Not everybody contextualizes words based off of your own personal opinion and interpretations of them.

 

[RLTF]

You’re an ATM to your ATF. Thanks for the mammaries. Move on.

 

[explorerzip]

I have actually done number 5 before except it was the visitation service. I would say no to the rest.

Then why haven't you done the other things I listed for those ladies? I guess you don't "love them" enough. I'm trolling you, but I hope you see how silly it looks when you say you loved them? IMO, you're confusing "like" and "love", which are very different. Do you honeslty think those ladies feel anything close to the same for you?

Not everybody contextualizes words based off of your own personal opinion and interpretations of them.

Not everyone throws around the word "love" around like you have. If you hinted those feelings towards your ATF ladies, then it is no surprise that they blocked you.

Well I said that I felt sad for my ATFs blocking me because I loved them as people.

As years go by, The blocking slowly occurs from my ATF’s. My phone number as well as my social media gets blocked by them. It honestly makes sad because I loved those women as people.

What's sad about getting blocked exactly? Your ATF's moved on and now you're free to see other SPs. They gave you a very clear signal and you can learn from the experience, which costs you nothing. Or keep with what you're doing and every SP you see will eventually block you. Your choice.

 

[black booty lover]

I'm just taking him on his own words. If he really "loves" other people, then there's a lot of responsibilities that should come with it IMO. Not so easy to "love" another person when they're in any of the situations I listed.

And I'll say it again...I don't think that's what he meant. You can absolutely care about someone without having to be ready bath them or take care of their kids on the chance they're in a bind. Your reaching.

 

[Tashki]

What's sad about getting blocked exactly?

I am not sure if this is a rhetorical question but I will answer.

it is sad because I no longer have the privilege to see how they are doing if they have indeed moved on from this industry. Secondly, some of these women have their Instagram set to public. Everybody else especially men who find them attractive are free to follow them except for me; I’m the odd one out.

it’s also sad because like I said before, they are some cases when I didn’t contact or message them at all. I was following them for a few years, watched their IG stories and then suddenly decided to make the decision to block me. I thought it was an unprovoked block.

Some of my ATFs gave me bomb ass head and have nice breast implants so every once in a while, I think about them at the back of my head and I like to check their instagram or WhatApp stories every now and then. I no longer have the privilege to do any of that.

 

[explorerzip]

it is sad because I no longer have the privilege to see how they are doing if they have indeed moved on from this industry. Secondly, some of these women have their Instagram set to public. Everybody else especially men who find them attractive are free to follow them except for me; I’m the odd one out.

it’s also sad because like I said before, they are some cases when I didn’t contact or message them at all. I was following them for a few years, watched their IG stories and then suddenly decided to make the decision to block me. I thought it was an unprovoked block.

Some of my ATFs gave me bomb ass head and have nice breast implants so every once in a while, I think about them at the back of my head and I like to check their instagram or WhatApp stories every now and then. I no longer have the privilege to do any of that.

What's truly sad is that you feel this way about people that you don't even know on a personal level outside the industry. What is sad about them moving on from this or any other job or industry? You know that people have other things they want to do in their lives? Getting access to personal social media accounts is irrelevent because it was theirs to give or take away at any time. Just be grateful that you had access for as long as you did. You write as if these ladies owed you something for your years of patronage, which they don't.

You actually do have more priveledges than you think. The most obvious is having a wide selection of SP's that you hopefully won't piss off and block you. OR seek out real friends or experiences so that you have other things in the back of your head besides the girls that give you bomb ass head, implants, etc.

 

[explorerzip]

And I'll say it again...I don't think that's what he meant. You can absolutely care about someone without having to be ready bath them or take care of their kids on the chance they're in a bind. Your reaching.

And I'll say it again. I'm going only on what the OP wrote because he hasn't clarified what he means by loving those women as people. It also seems that he's tripling down on that stance. I used a list to show how absurd his stance is with people that will never feel the same and maybe blocked him for expressing it. Pardon me for reaching to point that out.

Funny how he's reminiscing about how some of his ATF gave him bomb ass head and have nice implants. Yeah, he really "likes", "loves" and "cares" about these woman as "people." He's only sad about losing access to some free jerk-off material. Oh the humanity!

 

[black booty lover]

And I'll say it again. I'm going only on what the OP wrote because he hasn't clarified what he means by loving those women as people. It also seems that he's tripling down on that stance. I used a list to show how absurd his stance is with people that will never feel the same and maybe blocked him for expressing it. Pardon me for reaching to point that out.

Funny how he's reminiscing about how some of his ATF gave him bomb ass head and have nice implants. Yeah, he really "likes", "loves" and "cares" about these woman as "people." He's only sad about losing access to some free jerk-off material. Oh the humanity!

Okay, but I mean it's pretty easy to read between the lines in what he saying. Like I'm pretty sure "to love them as people" doesn't mean he loves them as much as he loves his mother. Like your making it sound like there's no in between. Your either ready to bath them should they fall ill and be ready to write their will, or you don't care about them.

Just because he remembers having a good time with a hot SP that has implants and gave him bomb ass head means he doesn't care about her well being??? You can have memories of fun sexual acts you had with people and still care about them. My ATF did real dirty things with me, and I can tell you 100% I cared for her as a person. I wanted to stay friends but she stopped responding to me. I cared about her so I was hoping she would keep in touch so I knew how she was doing. There's lots of things I would have done for her to help her if she needed, but I wouldn't have done any of the shit on your crazy list that qualifies as "caring for someone". I'm not sure why your making this particular point out to be more then something it's not.

If you want to make arguments that it's not worth it, or there's no point or whatever, so be it....but when someone is basically saying "I wanted to keep in touch because I liked them and cared about them", lets not twist words around and take things out of context to support that argument.

 

[explorerzip]

Okay, but I mean it's pretty easy to read between the lines in what he saying. Like I'm pretty sure "to love them as people" doesn't mean he loves them as much as he loves his mother. Like your making it sound like there's no in between. Your either ready to bath them should they fall ill and be ready to write their will, or you don't care about them.

Just because he remembers having a good time with a hot SP that has implants and gave him bomb ass head means he doesn't care about her well being??? You can have memories of fun sexual acts you had with people and still care about them. My ATF did real dirty things with me, and I can tell you 100% I cared for her as a person. I wanted to stay friends but she stopped responding to me. I cared about her so I was hoping she would keep in touch so I knew how she was doing. There's lots of things I would have done for her to help her if she needed, but I wouldn't have done any of the shit on your crazy list that qualifies as "caring for someone". I'm not sure why your making this particular point out to be more then something it's not.

If you want to make arguments that it's not worth it, or there's no point or whatever, so be it....but when someone is basically saying "I wanted to keep in touch because I liked them and cared about them", lets not twist words around and take things out of context to support that argument.

I tend not to "read between the lines" because 1) I know nothing about him other what he's written 2) he's made many similar posts over the years and 3) hasn't clarified what he means. So it's foolish to assume that his behaviour is benign until he clarifies himself. Interesing how he can't think of just one thing that is non-sexual. It would be a completely different story if he had said something like they grew up in the same small town, went to the same school, similar interests, etc.

Yes, it is possible that everyone that's against his behaviour is wrong. Or perhaps there is a grain of truth to those conclusions. Since Jenesis is the only SP that's chimed in, I think it's reasonable to conclude that her observations are correct. After all, she's been with and spoken with enough guys to see a pattern.

What's crazy about my list exactly? It wasn't meant to be exhaustive, but those are things that people have to do when they care for other people. That's why we call them care-givers. The OP even admits to doing one of those items on the list: attending someone's visitation. Clearly he doesn't think the list is crazy.

If you or the OP are getting no response or blocked by someone that you care for then you need to reflect on why it's happening. The wise thing to do is to reflect on what you did to get that result and not do it again.

 

[black booty lover]

I tend not to "read between the lines" because 1) I know nothing about him other what he's written 2) he's made many similar posts over the years and 3) hasn't clarified what he means. So it's foolish to assume that his behaviour is benign until he clarifies himself. Interesing how he can't think of just one thing that is non-sexual. It would be a completely different story if he had said something like they grew up in the same small town, went to the same school, similar interests, etc.

Yes, it is possible that everyone that's against his behaviour is wrong. Or perhaps there is a grain of truth to those conclusions. Since Jenesis is the only SP that's chimed in, I think it's reasonable to conclude that her observations are correct. After all, she's been with and spoken with enough guys to see a pattern.

What's crazy about my list exactly? It wasn't meant to be exhaustive, but those are things that people have to do when they care for other people. That's why we call them care-givers. The OP even admits to doing one of those items on the list: attending someone's visitation. Clearly he doesn't think the list is crazy.

If you or the OP are getting no response or blocked by someone that you care for then you need to reflect on why it's happening. The wise thing to do is to reflect on what you did to get that result and not do it again.

Much of what you said I agree with. His past behaviors etc....but when it comes to "love them as people", your getting into semantics. (I'm not positive but I think there's a language barrier with the OP)

My point about your list is that you made it sound like if someone is not willing to do all that, they don't care about someone which is rubbish.

Your telling me every single person you care about, your willing do all those things???

I'm not getting blocked by anyone, and perhaps he does need to reflect on why it's happening to him. I just disagree with the fact you took once comment he made totally out of context to support your argument.

You could have made your point without telling him how feels about people and if he does feel that way he needs to be willing to bath them and write their will for them.

Anyway, I've made my point a few times so I'll move on.

 

[explorerzip]

Much of what you said I agree with. His past behaviors etc....but when it comes to "love them as people", your getting into semantics. (I'm not positive but I think there's a language barrier with the OP)

My point about your list is that you made it sound like if someone is not willing to do all that, they don't care about someone which is rubbish.

Your telling me every single person you care about, your willing do all those things???

I'm not getting blocked by anyone, and perhaps he does need to reflect on why it's happening to him. I just disagree with the fact you took once comment he made totally out of context to support your argument.

You could have made your point without telling him how feels about people and if he does feel that way he needs to be willing to bath them and write their will for them.

Anyway, I've made my point a few times so I'll move on.

If this is what you think of my comments then you took them too literally. Maybe you should read between the lines and think about why I took that POV. Hint: I used the OP's own logic and words to show how empty his words were.

You're right though, we've beaten this dead horse enough. We'll see another nonsensical post from the OP again.