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JohnLarue

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Being most qualified has nothing to do with race or other diversity criteria. Arguing that people chosen for their diversity, are automatically not the most qualified is racist because those are not mutually exclusive. They can simultaneously be the most qualified and belong to any diversity criteria. Also keep in mind there are several most qualified people at the same time.
more pretzel logic

Arguing that people chosen for their diversity, are automatically not the most qualified is racist because those are not mutually exclusive.
if they were chosen for their diversity it is not possible to to state they were the most qualified as there is an unquantified probability the most most qualified applicant was disqualified because of diversity criteria
ie if any applicant was disqualified because of quotas , you may have disqualified the the most qualified applicant

and to get down to the offer stage one must disqualify numerous applicant. thousands in some case
I once followed up on an employment application to see if an interview was possible. The nice HR lady informed me they had received over 2,600 applications for that one position.


"several most qualified people at the same time."
more pretzel logic
most qualified is a unique description which can only be applied to one individual applicant

now it is possible in rare occasions to have two or more "equally highly qualified applicants" in which case one could apply a diversity filter and the person of minority gender / race should likely get the offer.

however claiming each and every diversity hire was either the most qualified or equally qualified is statistically impossible and completely disingenuous on your part.
 
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Being most qualified has nothing to do with race or other diversity criteria. Arguing that people chosen for their diversity, are automatically not the most qualified is racist because those are not mutually exclusive. They can simultaneously be the most qualified and belong to any diversity criteria. Also keep in mind there are several most qualified people at the same time.
You are absolutely correct in this respect. The fact is that there are a larger percentage of women rather than men that are secondary or university educated in Canada.

However, their progress in the upper echelons of society has not been matched by this statistics.

Trudeau instituting that pinch of diversity will always be criticized by the "wokeness" mentality of the right wing even though it is a step in the right direction.
 

oil&gas

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You are absolutely correct in this respect. The fact is that there are a larger percentage of women rather than men that are secondary or university educated in Canada.
If it is acceptable to have a larger percentage of women than men succeeding in university
shouldn't disparity between male and female be tolerated in other endeavors even if it is not
acceptable to the woke crowd?

However, their progress in the upper echelons of society has not been matched by this statistics.

Trudeau instituting that pinch of diversity will always be criticized by the "wokeness" mentality of the right wing even though it is a step in the right direction.
 

Butler1000

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You are absolutely correct in this respect. The fact is that there are a larger percentage of women rather than men that are secondary or university educated in Canada.

However, their progress in the upper echelons of society has not been matched by this statistics.

Trudeau instituting that pinch of diversity will always be criticized by the "wokeness" mentality of the right wing even though it is a step in the right direction.
Look at WHAT they are taking in University, not that they are there.
 

oil&gas

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I'd be happy to audit one of the courses offered in the Women and
Gender Studies program in UofT just to be surround by a lot of chicks.
A lot of them are ugly though.
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Dutch Oven

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Being most qualified has nothing to do with race or other diversity criteria. Arguing that people chosen for their diversity, are automatically not the most qualified is racist because those are not mutually exclusive. They can simultaneously be the most qualified and belong to any diversity criteria. Also keep in mind there are several most qualified people at the same time.
But if you are chosen FOR your diversity, it means that your qualifications were not the paramount consideration. It would be dumb luck if you turned out to be the best qualified if management didn't have that hiring objective.
 
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If it is acceptable to have a larger percentage of women than men succeeding in university
shouldn't disparity between male and female be tolerated in other endeavors even if it is not
acceptable to the woke crowd?
Why isn't that acceptable to you?
 

Dutch Oven

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Not true. You are always chosen for both, otherwise nothing will ever get done. And no it wouldn't be dumb luck because every single job in the world, is replaceable and has multiple qualified people to do it at the same time. There is no ONE best person to do it.
This is why you should not be in charge of hiring. Your thinking on the subject guarantees competitive failure.

Wayne Gretzky could not have been replaced by Mike Krushelnyski.
 

RZG

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I`m doing a cease fire on all the speculation and bitching and barking. Trudeau likes to run his mouth and has sold us the sizzle, let`s see how the steak turns out. He can`t hide from reality and truth, although he`d like to.
 

Valcazar

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What an absurd dishonest outlier of an example. I will also use one. Neil Armstrong could have been replaced by Edwin Aldrin as the 1st person to walk the moon. 🤷‍♂️
Sports is always the one they like to go to, because it may almost be true there.
Of course, there are never instances of a fantastic player performing differently depending on the makeup of the team, though.
Nope.
Never.
It doesn't happen.
Uh uh.
 
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