Why Car Dependency Is Keeping You Poor

[Anbarandy]

Considering some of the thing that you do believe in, I really couldn't care less about what's rattling around in that cage of yours. And, as I said more than once...I ain't trying to control anything. You seem to project a lot about that. I get you have anxiety about things in life changing. But change can be good. Living in the past is never a good option....


If you say so....


LOL. Your fantasy world is not reality. Please understand that. Putting words in my mouth is not really an effective argument style. Because I never told anyone to give up their cars. But since you seem to not realize that, let me say it again. Maybe this is clearer: Keep you car. I don't care. I just said the fact is you don't really need one IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. I know that's a crazy concept to you. And a climate alarmist? Since when? And even if I was, it would be better than being a climate denier, someone who is presented with evidence that shows things are changing for the worse, but stubbornly refuses to care or make any changes that could prevent issues....But it is interesting how you keep bringing that up. I don't recall ever saying anything about the environment in any post I made in this thread....But, keep tilting at the windmill Don Quixote.






Is this your smoking gun? You do realize there are many, many people who own more than one car. One study shows that 84% of Canadians own cars, which means 16% do not. I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove here? And, again, genius, I never said anyone should give up their cars. You're like that drunk guy at the bar who keeps making up new arguments on something they wished the other person said.


Dude....You keep circling back to this. And it really is kind of sad. Do you actually read what others post, or just have a knee jerk reaction and vomit all sorts of bullshit into a response? So I should just copy and paste my response: I just said the fact is you don't really need one IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. - Bolding and underlining might make it easier for you to read, and per chance comprehend the actual meaning of those words.


Agenda? Really? You got all that because I said a car wasn't necessary IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. I don't really know how that because something to do with climate. Could it be you're so insecure about the facts about what I said that you have to interject something here to make yourself feel like you know what is actually going on?




For someone who is so threatened by anything the perceive as control, the fact that you have no apparent issue with woman losing control of they bodies is very telling. And debate is not pushing views onto somebody. I mean, you might want to pretend I'm some mythical liberal who is pushing things....but let's face it, that's not happening at all. You are just a sad little man who is frightened about change.



You're so cute. You really think I believe I speak for society? I said a car wasn't necessary IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby.



I see that your reading comprehension skills have not improved....

Responding to the fool only perpetuates his endless loop tripe trap and at the end of the day, it will only lead to exhaustion and the feeling of "WTF, I can't believe it, I wasted my whole effin day on this fool!" when your head hits the pillow at the end of the day.

 

[Frankfooter]

Cars are often considered a necessity because there was a conscious move to design the infrastructure in such a way that cars were prioritized.
That's it, basically.
It was decided that everybody should have a car and then things were built in a way that made having a car a necessity.

There is a movement now that thinks that was a mistake and wants to guide infrastructure in the future to make it less and less of a necessity.

That the idea of "we would like to make infrastructure that isn't car dependent" is being turned into "15-minute cities are a (((globalist))) plot to control you" is just fucked up, but the world is full of fucked up people.

Its happening in some places.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1675203700757856256

 

[Frankfooter]

i do not believe you


multiple posts detailing your opinion why others do not need a vehicle says otherwise

you get pissy when you are told to mind your own business & stop trying to control others


actually having a car was necessary
car ownership is not a spur of the moment decision



But lets face a fact, you desperately want to impose your personal decision onto others

there is a world of difference between
stating you have determined you do not need a vehicle
vs.
stating, other people do not need a vehicle because you do not need a vehicle

you are a climate alarmist from word go , so please do not pretend that you do not have an agenda here






#1.
how many cars in canada 2023 - Google Search

#2
how many people in canada 2021 - Google Search
38.25 million (2021)

so roughly 1.4 Canadians for every vehicle

but you know better ??
i do not think so


if she lived in a rural area why would car ownership makes less sense?????
a vehicle is an absolute necessity in a rural area

you should not be telling others what is necessary for them



you are a climate alarmist from word go , so please do not pretend that you do not have an agenda here




bullshit
if you had a hint of realism you would know your experience is not applicable to others
if you were realistic about things, you would know you can not control other people
if you were realistic about things, you would be questioning the climate alarmism




you are a climate alarmist from word go , so please do not pretend that you do not have an agenda here


oh, so it really is about control then
and now you think you can justify your control via the exceptionally divisive abortion issue

there are two sides to the abortion issue & both can make sound logical rational arguments in defence of their respective positions
my view is it is an unresolvable quagmire and exceptionally divisive
so it is pointless to argue one way or the other & thus i respect each individuals position

you on the other hand will spend the rest of your days pushing your uncompromising view onto others
it is what you do




you do not speak for society
see above, there is a registered vehicle for every 1,4 Canadians, so society does not agree wit you




oh boy
your equating car ownership to pedophilia ?



Sure
but you are not the all knowing voice of evolution




odd how you previously tried to justify your car killing crusade by claiming our ancestors did not need a car
now you want claim we need to evolve past the car

Again you would not last 6 months without fossil fuels





demanding a business pay a specific wage without any consideration for the economic value of the work or the profitability of the business make no sense
the business will have to

1. pass costs on - producing the evil inflation
2. automate to reduce head count
3. relocate
4. go out of business

if employees want more $ earn it via merit . upgrade your skills so you can demand more $ in the market place



actually the free market has proven time and time again it makes the right choices
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excessive government intervention (central planning / socialism / communism) have proven time & time again to be a disaster for humanity producing corruption, , famine, death and retarding innovation / progress


well you had better get right on that & get companies banned
you should start by boycotting the products / services of the internet, grocery stores , the heat, hydro, water utilities and of course anything made from or shipped to you via... oil/ gas



the next conservative government will likely take four years to undo the the regulations of the Trudeau govt, so not to worry about them imposing regulations on you, they will too busy fixing the mess
of course the financial mess of he Trudeau govt will adversely impact multiple generations of Canadians and it will be adverse




that is completely non-responsive and a complete deflection from the issue
you have spent multiple posts trying to justify your attempts to control others behavior's and now you want to pretend that is not what you are doing

it is other peoples choice
your need to control other behavior's is not necessary
you should give it up


you are a climate alarmist from word go , so please do not pretend that you do not have an agenda here

You should also google overshoot while you're posting charts about population growth.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677685910022893568

 

[bazokajoe]

You're 100% right. In Los Angeles, the car companies basically paid off city officials to tear up their streetcar network and invest in highways. Basically destroy public transit for cars. And LA traffic is horrible (though apparently not as bad as Toronto's....). Burbs originally sprung up because of streetcars, but now you need a car to live outside of the downtown core...
But let's not forget the billions and billions of dollars GM/Ford/Chrysler/Toyota/Honda et al spend every year on ads to make us covet cars. And they've done it for nearly 100 years.

Your point of view is out of touch.
Let's not forget billons of dollars spent every year to make people buy and covet alcohol and tobacco products. And every other consumer product.

 

[silentkisser]

Your point of view is out of touch.
Let's not forget billons of dollars spent every year to make people buy and covet alcohol and tobacco products. And every other consumer product.

Well, duh! I mean, yes, advertising dollars or product placement in movies accomplish this as well. But you seem to be missing the point about what this thread is about. Just like Johnny boy.

Now, would I say you don't need alcohol or tobacco? Sure. I could live without them. I'm not a smoker but I do enjoy the occasional wobbly pop.

 

[bazokajoe]

Well, duh! I mean, yes, advertising dollars or product placement in movies accomplish this as well. But you seem to be missing the point about what this thread is about. Just like Johnny boy.

Now, would I say you don't need alcohol or tobacco? Sure. I could live without them. I'm not a smoker but I do enjoy the occasional wobbly pop.

Glad you realize your post had no point.

 

[silentkisser]

Glad you realize your post had no point.

lol...ok champ.

 

[bazokajoe]

lol...ok champ.

Glad you agreed.

 

[Anbarandy]

Glad you realize your post had no point.

Glad you agreed.

Hmmm?

LaRue without his infamous zero-cogency 528,564-words per post buttressed by his multi-Rorchach-esque page splattered, ink blotching graphs and charts all signifying nothing quasi-rebuttals ad infinitum.

 

[JohnLarue]

Considering some of the thing that you do believe in, I really couldn't care less about what's rattling around in that cage of yours.

and yet here you are replying

And, as I said more than once...I ain't trying to control anything

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i do not believe you

You seem to project a lot about that. I get you have anxiety about things in life changing. But change can be good. Living in the past is never a good option....

living in a pretend world (net zero) s never a good option
thinking you can control others is a waste

If you say so....

thats why i said it

LOL. Your fantasy world is not reality. Please understand that. Putting words in my mouth is not really an effective argument style. Because I never told anyone to give up their cars. But since you seem to not realize that, let me say it again. Maybe this is clearer: Keep you car. I don't care. I just said the fact is you don't really need one IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. I know that's a crazy concept to you.

there is a world of difference between
stating you have determined you do not need a vehicle
vs.
stating, other people do not need a vehicle because you do not need a vehicle

And a climate alarmist? Since when? And even if I was, it would be better than being a climate denier, someone who is presented with evidence that shows things are changing for the worse, but stubbornly refuses to care or make any changes that could prevent issues....But it is interesting how you keep bringing that up. I don't recall ever saying anything about the environment in any post I made in this thread....But, keep tilting at the windmill Don Quixote.

you are a climate alarmist from word go , so please do not pretend that you do not have an agenda here
calling anyone a climate denier is the hall mark of the a climate alarmist

climate changes, always has , always will

tubbornly refuses to care or make any changes that could prevent issues

only a climate alarmist thinks he/ she can control climate
you compound your confusion by assuming you can control others to make any changes that could prevent issues[

I told you

Is this your smoking gun? You do realize there are many, many people who own more than one car. One study shows that 84% of Canadians own cars, which means 16% do not. I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove here? And, again, genius, I never said anyone should give up their cars. You're like that drunk guy at the bar who keeps making up new arguments on something they wished the other person said.

you sure are slow on the uptake
the point is the vast majority disagree with your position
''other people do not need a vehicle because you do not need a vehicle''.

Dude....You keep circling back to this. And it really is kind of sad. Do you actually read what others post, or just have a knee jerk reaction and vomit all sorts of bullshit into a response? So I should just copy and paste my response: I just said the fact is you don't really need one IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. - Bolding and underlining might make it easier for you to read, and per chance comprehend the actual meaning of those words.

speaking of comprehension , go back and read what you posted

But if she lived in a rural area....your argument makes even less sense..

if she lived in a rural area ... a car is an absolute necessity and therefore my argument makes all the sense in the world

Agenda? Really? You got all that because I said a car wasn't necessary IF you live in a place where there is good transit and work/shopping/entertainment options nearby. I don't really know how that because something to do with climate. Could it be you're so insecure about the facts about what I said that you have to interject something here to make yourself feel like you know what is actually going on?

oh come on
you are a climate alarmist since word go
next you will be claiming everyone should consume less meat, because you do
then you will be prompting 15 minute cities
then you will be claiming everyone should forgo air travel because you do
then you will be claiming everyone should forgo air conditioning because you do
then you will be claiming everyone should wear sweaters in the winter to consume less natural gas because you do

For someone who is so threatened by anything the perceive as control, the fact that you have no apparent issue with woman losing control of they bodies is very telling.

what part of this did not understand

there are two sides to the abortion issue & both can make sound logical rational arguments in defence of their respective positions
my view is it is an unresolvable quagmire and exceptionally divisive
so it is pointless to argue one way or the other & thus i respect each individuals position

you on the other hand will spend the rest of your days pushing your uncompromising view onto others
it is what you do

And debate is not pushing views onto somebody.

you do not debate as you do not prsent facts
you are so absolute in your position, do not listen/ comprehend & spew slogans

here is the proof

the fact that you have no apparent issue with woman losing control of they bodies is very telling

which is totally at odds with

it is pointless to argue one way or the other & thus i respect each individuals position

or do you just not comprehend what '" i respect each individuals position" in the abortion issue means ?

I mean, you might want to pretend I'm some mythical liberal who is pushing things....but let's face it, that's not happening at all. You are just a sad little man who is frightened about change.

The alarmist climate change message been a constant bombardment for years & it is intensifying
you would have to lived under a rock not to notice

An agenda is being pushed & its not by conservatives , so.... by default the lonnie liberals

 

[JohnLarue]

Hmmm?

LaRue without his infamous zero-cogency 528,564-words per post buttressed by his multi-Rorchach-esque page splattered, ink blotching graphs and charts all signifying nothing quasi-rebuttals ad infinitum.

if you can not comprehend detailed posts , do not read them
however you will not learning anything that way

nobody is stopping you from putting me on ignore

 

[Frankfooter]

The alarmist climate change message been a constant bombardment for years & it is intensifying
you would have to lived under a rock not to notice

An agenda is being pushed & its not by conservatives , so.... by default the lonnie liberals

What agenda told most of the people to stay indoors because of climate change caused wildfires in Quebec and Ontario?
How did that agenda put so much smoke in the air?

 

[Malibuk]

Of course I could save a lot of money by getting rid of my car, but I enjoy playing hockey and golf and going fishing, and I don`t want to be a burden to my friends and family.
Plus my commute to work and back would be a few hours nightmare on 2 buses.
Shopping would also be a major pain in the ass.

 

[JohnLarue]

And a climate alarmist? Since when? And even if I was, it would be better than being a climate denier, someone who is presented with evidence that shows things are changing for the worse, but stubbornly refuses to care or make any changes that could prevent issues....But it is interesting how you keep bringing that up.

congratulations, you just confirmed yourself as a climate alarmist

only a damn fool climate alarmists would

1. call anyone a ' climate denier'
2. claim the propaganda as evidence
3. ignorantly accuse others of not caring
4. be so foolish to believe mankind can control our nonlinear dynamic and chaotic climate system

And a climate alarmist? Since when?

likely since birth

 

[Frankfooter]

only a damn fool climate alarmists would

1. call anyone a ' climate denier'
2. claim the propaganda as evidence
3. ignorantly accuse others of not caring
4. be so foolish to believe mankind can control our nonlinear dynamic and chaotic climate system

1. You are a science denier, you deny basics like the greenhouse effect.
2. You think NASA posts 'propaganda' because you are totally clueless about the science.
3. You once said if climate change is real you'd be backing the largest crime against humanity ever committed.
4. Nobody says they can control it, they say we effect it the way you had to stay inside for days because of wildfire smoke.